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- - By Garvin Gray (****) Date 2014-12-18 03:50
The secondary event has been confirmed with Dadi, and is going ahead.

Time control is 40 moves in 120 days, followed by 40 days with no increment.
Event is double round robin, regardless of number of entries.
There will be no prizemoney for this event.

Entries will close at the same time as the main event and play will start at the same time as the main event.

It is a secondary event, for those players who think that the main event time control is too fast, but we want to get them involved in WBCCC and so they can be familiar with how our events run.

Feel free to say you are in.
Parent - By trandism (**) Date 2014-12-18 06:01
I'm in
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2014-12-18 17:53
I'm in (reason: it's easier to join this even than the other one, if joining the other one was this easy I'd join it too)
Parent - - By Garvin Gray (****) Date 2014-12-19 00:50

> I'm in (reason: it's easier to join this even than the other one, if joining the other one was this easy I'd join it too)


A lot of the same rules still do exist, I just have not got around to putting them up yet, or they are under the banner of the main event. The main one that concerned you previously was declaring your real name. As you can see, you do not have to change your handle on here anymore, but you do still have to declare your real name. That rule still exists. I will add you after confirming that you are ok with this as for the round robin seed numbers are determined by order of entry, not by rating.
Parent - By Uly (Gold) Date 2014-12-19 16:15
I have no problem declaring my real name, I have a problem with it being made public.
Parent - By Schachmatt (****) Date 2014-12-19 02:19
I'm in.
Parent - - By Harvey Williamson (*****) Date 2015-03-05 16:15 Upvotes 1
I thought I would share the game below with all in this tournament. It is from an ICCF game of mine which is actually against a FIDE GM. You will see where I got the idea for all my games starting 1. e4 e5 from.
[Event "9th European Team Championship - Final"]
[Site "ICCF"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Williamson, Harvey D."]
[Black "Aveskulov, Valeriy"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C54"]
[WhiteElo "2509"]
[PlyCount "103"]
[EventDate "2014.06.10"]
[EventType "corr"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Bc5 4. c3 Nf6 5. d3 a6 6. O-O d6 7. b4 Ba7 8. a4 O-O
9. Nbd2 Ne7 10. Re1 Ng6 11. d4 Qe7 12. h3 Be6 13. Bxe6 Qxe6 14. Nf1 exd4 15.
cxd4 d5 16. e5 Ne4 17. Ng3 Nxg3 18. fxg3 f6 19. Kh2 fxe5 20. dxe5 c6 21. Be3
Bxe3 22. Rxe3 Ne7 23. Re2 Rac8 24. Qc2 h5 25. Ng5 Qg6 26. Qd2 Rce8 27. Rae1 Nf5
28. e6 Nd6 29. e7 Rf6 30. h4 Qf5 31. b5 axb5 32. axb5 Nf7 33. Nxf7 Rxf7 34. Re6
Rf6 35. R6e5 Qd7 36. Qc3 Rg6 37. Qa3 Rd6 38. Qa7 Kf7 39. R1e2 Kg8 40. Rxh5 Re6
41. bxc6 Qxc6 42. Rhe5 Rxe5 43. Rxe5 Qd6 44. Qa4 Rxe7 45. Qa8+ Kh7 46. Rh5+ Kg6
47. Rg5+ Kh7 48. Qf8 Qe6 49. Rh5+ Kg6 50. Qh8 Kf7 51. Rg5 Qf6 52. Rxd5 1-0
Parent - By Schachmatt (****) Date 2015-03-05 17:09
impressive, nice game!
- By Garvin Gray (****) Date 2014-12-18 06:23
1. Basant, Neel
2. Nikos
- - By Garvin Gray (****) Date 2014-12-20 16:24
1. Basant, Neel
2. Nikos
3. O'Brien, Matt
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) Date 2014-12-21 21:41
Add me and Uly said above he was joining.
Parent - By Garvin Gray (****) Date 2014-12-22 05:46

> Uly said above he was joining.


I am in discussions with Uly and his participation by private message.
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2014-12-26 21:12
Hi Paul. Unless my name appears as Uly in the player list (like it did in the WBCCCs in where I participated), I'll not be playing.
Parent - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) Date 2014-12-26 21:50
I can confirm to Garvin that Uly is your correct name.
- By Garvin Gray (****) Date 2014-12-22 05:46
1. Basant, Neel
2. Nikos
3. O'Brien, Matt
4. Watson, Paul
- - By Garvin Gray (****) Date 2014-12-23 22:01
1. Basant, Neel
2. Nikos
3. O'Brien, Matt
4. Watson, Paul
5. Harvey Williamson 2509
Parent - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) Date 2014-12-26 21:52
See my post above about Uly,i have posted items to him in Mexico and they arrived fine.
- - By Garvin Gray (****) Date 2014-12-23 22:11
Entry for this event is now open, so get your entry in.
Parent - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) Date 2014-12-23 23:11
Nice to see Harvey in,hi Harvey.
Parent - By bio (***) Date 2014-12-24 09:38
I will play in the secondary event
- By Garvin Gray (****) Date 2014-12-27 08:46
1. Basant, Neel
2. Nikos
3. O'Brien, Matt
4. Watson, Paul
5. Harvey Williamson 2509
6. Roehrich, Stefan
- By Garvin Gray (****) Date 2015-01-01 10:07
List of confirmed entries

No  Name               Rtg Loc  Club            

1.  GRAY, Garvin       20  2259 GARVIN GRAY     
2.  BASANT, Neel       19  2209 FELLOWSHIP      
3.  SARAKENIDIS, Nikos 18  2219 TRANDISM        
4.  O'BRIEN, Matt      17  2119 SCHACHMATT      
5.  WATSON, Paul       16  2278 NATIONAL12      
6.  WILLIAMSON, Harvey 15  2509 HARVEY WILLIAMSON
7.  ROEHRICH, Stefan   14  2228 BIO             
8.  HUERGA, Aser       13       ASER HUERGA

Joes Simpson possible entrant, sorting out xfccplay installation.

Below are entry possibles.

9.  GLATTHAAR, Michael     2289 DONKASAND       
10. EVANS, David           2286 DAVID EVANS     
11. SEKOWSKI, Pawel        2278 SEKOS           
12. SANZ, Jose             2255 PPIPPER         
13. PRAKASH, Om            2247 MASTER OM       
14. COMES, Ruben           2247 RUBEN COMES     
15. KASABASIC, Djordje     2207 ARMAGEDDON      
16. NICHOLS, Scott         2184 SCOTT           
17. ALCALA, Alvin          2177 NATMAKU         
18. COOKSON, Timothy       2163 WEIRWINDLE      
19. CLEMENT, George        2161 KEOKI010        
20. ELDRIDGE, Mark         2146 MARK ELDRIDGE   
21. ALTIERI, Carlo         2145 ITACA2          
22. VAREND, Erik           2114 DEKA
- By Garvin Gray (****) Date 2015-01-01 10:09
The time control and double round robin has been set up for a large number of games, with quite a few players who clearly said that the time control of 30 days plus 1 hour increment was too fast for them. So where are all these entrants now? At the moment, except for two players, it is just a doubling up of entrants from the main event. Not a new set of entrants.

And you bet I will let fly big time if they do not enter and this event does not get off the ground, especially because those who whinged and complained that the time control of the main event was too fast for them did not enter this event.
- By Garvin Gray (****) Date 2015-01-01 14:52
From the list of possible entrants above, can those who are definitely not going to play in the secondary double round event please reply back in this thread and confirm your non participation. That way I can remove your name and reduce the number of unnecessary private messages.
- - By Garvin Gray (****) Date 2015-01-02 05:19
Below are entry possibles.

9.  GLATTHAAR, Michael     2289 DONKASAND       
10. EVANS, David           2286 DAVID EVANS     
12. SANZ, Jose             2255 PPIPPER         
13. PRAKASH, Om            2247 MASTER OM       
14. COMES, Ruben           2247 RUBEN COMES     
15. KASABASIC, Djordje     2207 ARMAGEDDON      
16. NICHOLS, Scott         2184 SCOTT           
17. ALCALA, Alvin          2177 NATMAKU         
18. COOKSON, Timothy       2163 WEIRWINDLE      
19. CLEMENT, George        2161 KEOKI010        
20. ELDRIDGE, Mark         2146 MARK ELDRIDGE   
21. ALTIERI, Carlo         2145 ITACA2          
22. VAREND, Erik           2114 DEKA
Parent - By Master Om (Bronze) Date 2015-01-02 11:57
I am not playing.
- - By Garvin Gray (****) Date 2015-01-02 14:16
No  Name               Rtg Loc  Club            

1.  GRAY, Garvin       20  2259 GARVIN GRAY     
2.  BASANT, Neel       19  2209 FELLOWSHIP      
3.  SARAKENIDIS, Nikos 18  2219 TRANDISM        
4.  O'BRIEN, Matt      17  2119 SCHACHMATT      
5.  WATSON, Paul       16  2278 NATIONAL12      
6.  WILLIAMSON, Harvey 15  2509 HARVEY WILLIAMSON
7.  ROEHRICH, Stefan   14  2228 BIO             
8.  HUERGA, Aser       13       ASER HUERGA     
9.  GLATTHAAR, Michael 12  2289 DONKASAND

Yet to confirm intention

10. EVANS, David           2286 DAVID EVANS     
11. SANZ, Jose             2255 PPIPPER         
13. COMES, Ruben           2247 RUBEN COMES     
14. KASABASIC, Djordje     2207 ARMAGEDDON      
15. NICHOLS, Scott         2184 SCOTT           
16. ALCALA, Alvin          2177 NATMAKU         
17. COOKSON, Timothy       2163 WEIRWINDLE      
18. CLEMENT, George        2161 KEOKI010        
19. ELDRIDGE, Mark         2146 MARK ELDRIDGE   
20. ALTIERI, Carlo         2145 ITACA2          
21. VAREND, Erik           2114 DEKA
Parent - By keoki010 (Silver) Date 2015-01-02 16:34
I am not going to play
Parent - By deka (****) Date 2015-01-02 17:11
Not playing
Parent - By Mark Eldridge (****) Date 2015-01-02 22:31
Hello. Sorry for the late reply been away for Christmas and new year with no internet access.

I'm in for this event.
- - By Garvin Gray (****) Date 2015-01-02 23:55 Edited 2015-01-03 02:00
No  Name               Rtg Loc  Club            

1.  GRAY, Garvin       20  2259 GARVIN GRAY     
2.  BASANT, Neel       19  2209 FELLOWSHIP      
3.  SARAKENIDIS, Nikos 18  2219 TRANDISM        
4.  O'BRIEN, Matt      17  2119 SCHACHMATT      
5.  WATSON, Paul       16  2278 NATIONAL12      
6.  WILLIAMSON, Harvey 15  2509 HARVEY WILLIAMSON
7.  ROEHRICH, Stefan   14  2228 BIO             
8.  HUERGA, Aser       13       ASER HUERGA     
9.  GLATTHAAR, Michael 12  2289 DONKASAND       
10. ELDRIDGE, Mark     11  2146 MARK ELDRIDGE   

Yet to confirm intention

11. EVANS, David           2286 DAVID EVANS     
12. SANZ, Jose             2255 PPIPPER         
14. COMES, Ruben           2247 RUBEN COMES     
15. KASABASIC, Djordje     2207 ARMAGEDDON      
16. NICHOLS, Scott         2184 SCOTT           
17. ALCALA, Alvin          2177 NATMAKU         
18. COOKSON, Timothy       2163 WEIRWINDLE      
19. ALTIERI, Carlo         2145 ITACA2
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) Date 2015-01-03 23:16
So Harvey has an elo of 231 over me,that could be fun.
Parent - By Garvin Gray (****) Date 2015-01-04 00:32

> So Harvey has an elo of 231 over me,that could be fun.


That is his rating from iccf. Your rating comes from four years of games on here of results collected against opponents with similar ratings.
Parent - - By Aser Huerga (*) Date 2015-01-04 10:29
Hello everyone,  I'm a new player for WBCCC,  I will participate in the secondary event only,  because it  fits better with my available spare time. I'm glad to have the opportunity of play against good players as yours,  and I want to thank Garvin for the time and effort he spend in this tournament.
Cheers!
Parent - By bio (***) Date 2015-01-04 16:10
Hello Aser, welcome to the tourney :)
- By Garvin Gray (****) Date 2015-01-06 04:26
This competition is dependant on the fate of the main event. If the main competition goes ahead, so will this. If it does not, then this one will not either. Please double check that your name is correctly entered, or withdrawn, as the case maybe, now that the entry deadline as passed.
- By Garvin Gray (****) Date 2015-01-07 12:46
No  Name               Rtg Loc  Club            

1.  GRAY, Garvin       11  2259 GARVIN GRAY     
2.  BASANT, Neel       10  2209 FELLOWSHIP      
3.  SARAKENIDIS, Nikos 9   2219 TRANDISM        
4.  O'BRIEN, Matt      8   2119 SCHACHMATT      
5.  WATSON, Paul       7   2278 NATIONAL12      
6.  WILLIAMSON, Harvey 6   2509 HARVEY WILLIAMSON
7.  ROEHRICH, Stefan   5   2228 BIO             
8.  HUERGA, Aser       4   2221 ASER HUERGA     
9.  GLATTHAAR, Michael 3   2289 DONKASAND       
10. ELDRIDGE, Mark     2   2146 MARK ELDRIDGE   
11. ULY,               1   2233
- - By Garvin Gray (****) Date 2015-01-07 12:46
Entries are now closed.
Parent - By Weirwindle (***) Date 2015-01-15 23:29
I will not be entering anything this year Garvin.
Good luck.
- - By Garvin Gray (****) Date 2015-01-14 09:57
Clearly there have been some technical issues that have delayed the start of the double round robin event. Once these have been sorted out, the event will get underway. I am unable to list a timeframe as to when this will be, as it is up to the chessok server team to sort out.
Parent - - By trandism (**) Date 2015-01-21 21:50
Oh boy! It started :eek:
Parent - - By Garvin Gray (****) Date 2015-01-21 23:51

> Oh boy! It started :eek:


Why is this a surprise?
Parent - By trandism (**) Date 2015-01-22 00:38
Not a suprise, more like awe!
A good thing for sure :wink:
- - By Scott (*****) Date 2015-04-28 16:11 Edited 2015-04-28 16:13
This has to be the most boring tournament ever, way to go Garvin. Harvey is the only bright spot.

Almost no talk, unlike the first one...
Parent - - By Harvey Williamson (*****) Date 2015-04-28 16:42

> Harvey is the only bright spot.
>


Thanks!

I like to play to win sometimes this can mean losing a game or 2. In this tournament I should win at least 3 games and hope not to lose any.
Parent - By Aser Huerga (*) Date 2015-04-29 12:14

> In this tournament I should win at least 3 games and hope not to lose any


Same here, although they are not trivial wins. My other two games should be draw, and then there are the Neel Basant games ... someone knows why he is not playing? I hope the reason won't be a health problem.
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2015-05-01 22:03
I've been thinking about it Scott. Remember back when we were Discussing the creation of the Rybka Grand Prix? I made logos about it and all.

I think that if we contacted Dadi Johnson about it he could help us organize a tournament in the spirit of the very first WBCCC, because, I don't believe it was a one-off, it probably can be organized at any point if there's interest.
Parent - - By Scott (*****) Date 2015-05-01 23:01
New ideas are definitely needed Uly. When you have a TD who gets pissed off at the mere mention of anything different than he has planned, it's hard to come up with meaningful dialog.

I still feel that crushing blow when I "mouse-slipped" in our game like it was 10 minutes ago, :(

I've been retiring from CC (finishing games, not starting new ones), but I love this site and the many friends and also a few DH's, :razz:

So I would be open to something new....
Parent - By Uly (Gold) Date 2015-05-02 05:29
Well, if you have some new idea and need a TD to manage a fun tournament give me a call :smile: I remember when the WBCCC used to be something special, nowadays I'm playing in a ICCF tournament and I can't tell them apart, but the question is, what is needed to reinvigorate this stuff up?
- By Garvin Gray (****) Date 2015-05-06 23:41
Update on Neel Basant.

I contacted Neel straight after his loss on time in the main event, seeking an explanation. There was no reply. Just a few days ago, I finally received a reply, stating he was withdrawing from the event due to family issues (the reply was more extensive, but that is up to him to share), but as my pm was about the main event, I replied asking him to clarify if he was withdrawing from both events. This was about a week ago.

Since then there has been no reply. As Neel has no finished any games, I have now written to Dadi to declare all of Neel's games lost as I am taking it that Neel was talking about withdrawing from everything.
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