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Parent - - By Antares (****) Date 2018-05-08 15:55
Difficult decision, but in the end it would be just an insult to the Rg1/Qf3-artillery not giving it a try... :wink:

14. h4 *

1rbq1rk1/1p1n1pbp/2pp2p1/2nPp3/p1P1P1PP/P1N1BQ2/1P1N1P2/R3KBR1 b Q - 0 14
Parent - - By Master Om (Bronze) Date 2018-05-08 16:14
I already said u that :lol:
Parent - - By Antares (****) Date 2018-05-08 19:28


You're such a friendly helpful guy... if you now would just start posting that little Aquarium-screen (like here) with every move (obviously out of White's view! :smile:), i would have much less work and our chess-friendship would be already nearly[!] limitless! :grin:
Parent - By Master Om (Bronze) Date 2018-05-09 02:17
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
Parent - - By Master Om (Bronze) Date 2018-05-09 02:19
14... cxd5

If 15. cxd5 then 15... b5
Parent - - By Antares (****) Date 2018-05-09 08:08
Eval-wise 14. Be2 is simply better than 14. h4, but with the many nearly-forced piece-tradeoffs i extended the line and got that passed-pawn but opposite-bishop and cut-off king endgame, which most likely can not be won:

5bk1/5p1p/R5p1/3Pp3/2B1P1P1/2r4P/5PK1/8 w - - 1 32


(14. Be2 cxd5 15. cxd5 b5! 16. Nxb5 16. Qb6 17. b4 axb3 18. Nxb3 Qa6
19. Nxc5 Nxc5 20. Bxc5 dxc5 21. a4 Bd7 22. Qc3 c4 23. Kf1 Bxb5
24. axb5 Qxb5 25. Kg2 Rfc8 26. Rgc1 Qb2 27. Rc2 Qxc3 28. Rxc3 Bf8
29. Ra6 Rb3 30. Rxc4 Rxc4 31. Bxc4 Rc3=)

Obviously, on the quick, i tried to improve on this line, but even the plan of a "semi-castling" 16. Kf1 b4! doesn't lead to anywhere... if we would play this game for a serious ICCF-game i would still have put way more effort trying to find there something (or extend all the rook-moves b1/c1/d1), but as i said above, for our fun game here playing 14. h4 with the Rg1/Qf3-artillery in place is more or less a must anyway. In each case Petrosian would be proud of your 11...c6/12...a4-idea, and 13...Rb8+14...b5 seems to be simply the best plan available - a massive improvement over all what you tried in that 8. g4-line before. :wink:

So we now have:

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. h3 O-O 6. Nf3 e5 7. d5 a5 8. g4 Na6
9. Be3 Nd7 10. a3 Nac5 11. Rg1 c6 12. Nd2 a4 13. Qf3 Rb8 14. h4 cxd5 *

1rbq1rk1/1p1n1pbp/3p2p1/2npp3/p1P1P1PP/P1N1BQ2/1P1N1P2/R3KBR1 w Q - 0 15
Parent - By Master Om (Bronze) Date 2018-05-09 16:04
Nice Analysis mate!!
Parent - - By Master Om (Bronze) Date 2018-05-09 16:06

>In each case Petrosian would be proud of your 11...c6/12...a4-idea, and 13...Rb8+14...b5 seems to be simply the best plan available - a massive improvement over all what you tried in that 8. g4-line before. :wink:


I think that's how we learn and improvise.
Parent - - By Antares (****) Date 2018-05-09 16:16

> Nice Analysis mate!!


Thank you very much Om!, i really enjoy our game here as it is not just move-only like everywhere else or with most others (<->Wannacorrviceworldchamp), but a little bantering plus sharing analysis and a common learning! -> "I think that's how we learn and improvise." !
Parent - - By Master Om (Bronze) Date 2018-05-09 16:17
I agree. The reason is I am not interested in win and loss. I want to learn. I consider myself fool in this.
I told Kreuzfahrtziff same thing but he is bent to winning only.
Parent - - By Antares (****) Date 2018-05-09 16:38
His claim -by beating that KID-fianchetto-Kavalek-offshore- that the "KID is dead" is simply idiotic, especially as the g3-move (the given move-order in your game was really strange...) must be played early by White and the KID-fianchetto can be avoided by Black at all. True is that KID is a men's opening, where balls & knowledge are needed. :wink:
Parent - - By Master Om (Bronze) Date 2018-05-09 16:40

>His claim -by beating that KID-fianchetto-Kavalek-offshore- that the "KID is dead" is simply idiotic, especially as the g3-move must be played early by White and the KID-fianchetto can be avoided by Black at all.


I agree. Can transpose to Grunfeld or benoni type position. But he played some forcible moves though. He refuted that line recommended in the book though.
Parent - - By Antares (****) Date 2018-05-09 16:42
No question, 10. Qe2 was a good move (and 10...exd4 not the best IMHO). Therefore always be careful with [OTB-]literature already a few years old! :wink:
Parent - - By Master Om (Bronze) Date 2018-05-09 16:43
That move was in Hiarcs book. But further continuation was not given . And that book was not too old though. Modernised KID by Bojkov
Parent - - By Antares (****) Date 2018-05-09 17:31

> Modernised KID by Bojkov


Does he have 7...a5 in it, or early 7...Na6?

Btw., is it just me who thinks that this book-cover is somewhat g_y?

Parent - - By Master Om (Bronze) Date 2018-05-10 02:46

>Does he have 7...a5 in it, or early 7...Na6?


in Which Line ?
Parent - - By Antares (****) Date 2018-05-10 06:42

> in Which Line ?


In that of our game 7. d5, or is 5./6. h3 not covered? (like in so many KID-books, where you can find it in "offlines" best case)
Parent - - By Master Om (Bronze) Date 2018-05-10 11:34 Upvotes 1
It Suggests Na6!? but after Nf3
Parent - - By Antares (****) Date 2018-05-10 13:38
Ah, ok, now i understand what you meant with "this Bagirov", thanks for the kind scan-in/firstpage-copy. :wink:
Parent - - By Master Om (Bronze) Date 2018-05-12 12:02
The Position is more critical than one can assume by just looking at the position.
Will move on Monday. :red:
Parent - - By Antares (****) Date 2018-05-12 13:18
No worry, i already feared Black might find an easy draw here because not being able to simply take the pawn (16. Nb5?) or play for a semi-castle (14. Be2!? / later Kf1) might cost too much substance.
Parent - - By Master Om (Bronze) Date 2018-05-13 15:08
There are subtle traps...
Parent - - By Antares (****) Date 2018-05-13 15:25
Still enjoy analysis!, and prepare a good KGA-line! :wink: :twisted:
Parent - - By Master Om (Bronze) Date 2018-05-13 15:27
Doing That!!. Will move soon.
Parent - By Antares (****) Date 2018-05-13 15:35
Don't hurry, move when you stand behind your move.
Parent - By Antares (****) Date 2018-05-15 08:24 Edited 2018-05-15 08:26
Oh my darkest desires... to upload this picture i had to type in the human-check "tastes good" - its like she is already speaking with me... :twisted:

:twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted:



:wink:

I agree with you that 16...Na6 looks a little dubious (especially as closing the b-file is absolutely in White's interest) and the h4-pawn is a little very poisoned obviously, and after i had a little first look its easy to see what you like about Rd7... nice little positional-slow KID-style move, with again that nasty Nb8-idea which already looked so dangerous in the 13. Qc2-line. Well done, so i will need a little more time here... especially as i currently also try letting AlphaGrischuk's dream come true.
Parent - - By Antares (****) Date 2018-05-09 15:55
16. Nxb5? Ba6!
a) 17. Na7 Rxb2 18. Nc6 Qa8 19. h5 Re8 20. Nb4 Nb3 21. Nxb3 Bxf1
22. Kxf1 Rxb3 23. g5 Qc8 24. Kg2 f5=
b) 17. Nxd6 Qa5 18. Rc1 Rxb2 19. Bxa6 Rxd2 20. Bxd2 Qxa6 21. Nc4 Nb3
22. Rc3 Nd4 23. Qd3 Nc5 24. Qe3 Rc8 25. f3 Nb5 26. Rc1 Nb3 27. Kf2 N5d4
28. Qd3 (28. Nb2 Nxc1=) Nxd2=

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. h3 O-O 6. Nf3 e5 7. d5 a5 8. g4 Na6
9. Be3 Nd7 10. a3 Nac5 11. Rg1 c6 12. Nd2 a4 13. Qf3 Rb8 14. h4 cxd5 15. cxd5 b5
16. Na2 *

1rbq1rk1/3n1pbp/3p2p1/1pnPp3/p3P1PP/P3BQ2/NP1N1P2/R3KBR1 b Q - 1 16
Parent - - By Master Om (Bronze) Date 2018-05-13 15:38
16...Rb7

2bq1rk1/1r1n1pbp/3p2p1/1pnPp3/p3P1PP/P3BQ2/NP1N1P2/R3KBR1 w Q - 0 17
Parent - - By Antares (****) Date 2018-05-16 22:22
Will move tomorrow, analysis is nearly completed (one move to go... :surprised:).
Parent - By Master Om (Bronze) Date 2018-05-17 02:07
:smile:
Parent - - By Antares (****) Date 2018-05-17 07:43
Challenging learning-curve with Rb7 really changing the landscape of the position, and difficult decision as well... have fun analysing! :smile:

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. h3 O-O 6. Nf3 e5 7. d5 a5 8. g4 Na6
9. Be3 Nd7 10. a3 Nac5 11. Rg1 c6 12. Nd2 a4 13. Qf3 Rb8 14. h4 cxd5 15. cxd5 b5
16. Na2 Rb7 17. h5 *

2bq1rk1/1r1n1pbp/3p2p1/1pnPp2P/p3P1P1/P3BQ2/NP1N1P2/R3KBR1 b Q - 0 17
Parent - - By Master Om (Bronze) Date 2018-05-17 15:47

>as well... have fun analysing! :smile:


Thats why we play chess IMHO.
Parent - - By Antares (****) Date 2018-05-17 16:13
I play here also in the hope that you may post some beautiful chess-chicks! :twisted:
Parent - - By Master Om (Bronze) Date 2018-05-17 17:30

>post some beautiful chess-chicks! :twisted:


Chicks and that too in chess ?
Parent - - By Antares (****) Date 2018-05-17 20:11
I know it sounds like a mutual exclusion :evil:,
as they are rare but -barely- there! :grin::lol::surprised:
And just have a look at her king-side...

Parent - - By Master Om (Bronze) Date 2018-05-18 01:19
You meaN this King ?

Parent - By Antares (****) Date 2018-05-18 07:24
"Fine Italian alabaster"-quality... Thanks, i'm now guessing the whole morning about her favorite position...
Parent - - By Antares (****) Date 2018-05-23 14:11
She reminds me of Claudia Cardinale in "Once upon a time in the West".

Parent - - By Master Om (Bronze) Date 2018-05-23 15:28
My first impression of the pic u posted was of Patricia Rhomberg of sensational janine :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
Parent - - By Antares (****) Date 2018-05-23 15:38
What movies you all know in the deepest Indian jungle (ok, you live coast...)... :twisted:
Is this a must-watch and does it improve my chess?

Parent - - By Master Om (Bronze) Date 2018-05-23 15:49

>Is this a must-watch and does it improve my chess?


You will definitely love the King side castling ( . )( . )
Parent - - By Antares (****) Date 2018-05-23 15:54
Will just watch when you promise me 8===D (o) piece captures!
Parent - - By Master Om (Bronze) Date 2018-05-23 15:57
First watch it. original is in German. If u get wet then i may wait .... for the moves  :lol:
Parent - - By Antares (****) Date 2018-05-23 19:34
Will do!, but i surely have overread parts of your remarks. :smile:
Parent - By Master Om (Bronze) Date 2018-05-24 19:13
:yell::yell::yell::yell:
Parent - - By Master Om (Bronze) Date 2018-05-19 01:10
17... Nb8*

1nbq1rk1/1r3pbp/3p2p1/1pnPp2P/p3P1P1/P3BQ2/NP1N1P2/R3KBR1 w Q - 0 18
Parent - - By Antares (****) Date 2018-05-19 13:31
The smile in this position (d5e4Qf3f2g4h5) is just beautiful...



1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. h3 O-O 6. Nf3 e5 7. d5 a5 8. g4 Na6
9. Be3 Nd7 10. a3 Nac5 11. Rg1 c6 12. Nd2 a4 13. Qf3 Rb8 14. h4 cxd5 15. cxd5 b5
16. Na2 Rb7 17. h5 Nb8 18. Be2 *

1nbq1rk1/1r3pbp/3p2p1/1pnPp2P/p3P1P1/P3BQ2/NP1NBP2/R3K1R1 b Q - 1 18
Parent - - By Master Om (Bronze) Date 2018-05-19 15:50
18...Nba6*
2bq1rk1/1r3pbp/n2p2p1/1pnPp2P/p3P1P1/P3BQ2/NP1NBP2/R3K1R1 w Q - 0 19
Parent - - By Antares (****) Date 2018-05-19 16:32

> 18...Nba6


Also thought this is Black's best approach... did you have something differerent/better for White? :smile: I worked hard on that move-order h5/Be2/... to cut out a lot of Black's options.
Parent - - By Master Om (Bronze) Date 2018-05-19 16:51
I think g5 was better than Be2
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