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- - By Garvin Gray (****) Date 2013-12-20 00:05
Another topic for discussion. With the number of games changing regularly, causing changes to the time control/ number of rounds and also who will get the bye and when, another option is to play each 'round' separately, so each person plays one game at a time.

But this is a fundamental change in the style of the event. But just like a lot of ideas we have around here, thought I would throw it open for discussion.


Would speed up the event, as soon as the eight or so games are over from one round, then next round can start in the next day or so.
Standings are clearer as one round is being paired at a time.
Forfeits have less impact as any withdrawers only forfeit one game and then are gone.


Time control would be about 15 days plus 1 hour, so would require attention, certainly creating a more blitz effect all the time.
With round robin this is much more of an issue. In a swiss a player could have asked for a bye, misses a round for the two weeks or more they were away, with round robin, they would have to forfeit meaning another person misses a game.
Dadi has to send pairings to server more often, not much of an issue, but does need to be considered

My usual disclaimer: This does not mean I am for or against this change, I will state my personal opinion later so it does not lead the discussions, but it is an option worthy of consideration and is easily implemented from my end as organiser and arbiter.
Parent - - By keoki010 (Silver) Date 2013-12-20 00:20
Once again I am for Time Control 30days/1hour inc. no matter the amount of games. :smile:
Parent - - By Scott (*****) Date 2013-12-20 01:24
I am totally with George on this, but I'm sure you knew this. All players knew when signing up, that this tournament will put a strain on most, I think that is good, keep the pressure on.

As far as the rounds and pairings go, I had been thinking all along that everyone could have 3 games going at all times. If you have 2 players who haven't played yet, and they each

have finished a game, let them go ahead and start since it is a round robin they are going to play anyway eventually.

Paul, George myself and you Garvin are the only ones discussing this. You silent types out there need to give your opinions now or accept whatever comes your way.

Another thing that has been worrying you Garvin is forfeits. This is a veteran group except for a couple, and IMHO not an issue. I hope that don't come back to haunt me.
Parent - By Garvin Gray (****) Date 2013-12-20 01:32

> Another thing that has been worrying you Garvin is forfeits. This is a veteran group except for a couple, and IMHO not an issue. I hope that don't come back to haunt me.

At the start of 2013, we would not have anticipated the death of one of the regulars, but it does happen.
Parent - By Mark Eldridge (****) Date 2013-12-21 19:23
I accept I'm not as vocal as i used to be so i will accept whatever comes my way:evil:
Parent - By Master Om (Bronze) Date 2013-12-20 16:27
I am ready for anything u feel suitable. :smile:
Parent - By Schachmatt (****) Date 2013-12-20 18:52
anything from 22 - 48 days of timebank is okay with me.  i think anything under three weeks rushes things, players need to sleep, plus sometimes people take vacations for a week.  it's reasonable to expect a rate of play of 8 hrs/move in general.
- - By Garvin Gray (****) Date 2013-12-21 00:21
To fill in on some of the constraints we are working with:

Play starts January 13 and finishes roughly December 1st (that is the date I have pencilled in when doing the calculations for round times to makes sure we do not go near Christmas if time over runs). That means we lose 44 days out of the year. So that leaves 321 days. So it is a matter of dividing the number of rounds into 321, remembering to allow for increment as well. It is surprising how many days a 1 hour fischer increment does add up to.

6 rounds- 321 divide by 6 equals 53.5 days, halve that to get the players time and that equals 27 days. Now we have used 30 days plus 1 hour increment and it has worked in for 2013 and should still work in 2014, especially with round robin as RR's go faster and we can save time in starting the next round. It will take less time this time to get the next round started.

5 rounds- 321 divide by 5 equals 64.2 days, halve that and we get the previously announced 33 days plus 1 hour increment.

4 rounds- 321 divide by 4 equals 80.25 days, halve that and we get the previously mentioned 40 days, which did receive some negative feedback. Hopefully this little table will help to explain why 40 days is the right answer for 4 games and four rounds.

The more rounds, the less games (of course). As of 21/12 we are at 17 entries, so are using 6 rounds. Hopefully adding some more information like this might help some in adding some opinions.
Parent - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) Date 2013-12-21 00:49
Lets wait and see if we get any more entries in next week or so.
- By Garvin Gray (****) Date 2014-01-03 00:57
Closing out a few items. This will not be happening.
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