> however i had to format one of my laptops and when i asked for help due to the nature of the problem they simply said buy another 3 licences...
If this is how they treat people who have donated them money...
> Just pirate it. Overzealous copy protection deserves that.
I know you're joking since "2 wrongs don't make a right" :-D
Piracy is the default. Once you've donated, they damn well should be nice to you. If they aren't, well, you're still free to do what most everyone else does.
> Piracy is the default. Once you've donated, they damn well should be nice to you. If they aren't, well, you're still free to do what most everyone else does.
Customer service is HUGE to me but I would never condone pirating or stealing as really should be called. If a company's service or product don't meet a person's expectations that person should just switch to a different product. As someone else here stated two wrongs don't make a right.
having only one computer i've never had liscensing issues but it's very common practice, as i understand it, for retailers to be quite generous to fit one's particular needs. in fact i've never heard of someone saying to buy the thing twice if you want/need to install it more than 3 times. that's just a joke. anyway this nixes an idea that'd been swirling in my head for some time as i await r4. i'll probably NOT just pirate j2010 uci instead (because that would be wrong), & wait & buy the real thing when amir bat releases it for sale (an upgrade is in the works & i assume these bobby jr folks wont have exclusive rights to it).
> & wait & buy the real thing when amir bat releases it for sale (an upgrade is in the works & i assume these bobby jr folks wont have exclusive rights to it).
I don't know the authors but odd that they had a long history (In Internet time) with Chessbase and then they start selling their engine through Internet Chess Club in UCI format.
This on the Bobby site says the GUI only connects to the World Chess Live, not ICC. Even though, from what I can see, World Chess Live is owned by ICC. Maybe that limitation will also be erased at the release of the full version.
>Can I use Bobby Junior to connect to other chess servers like ICC?
>No, Bobby Junior only connects to World Chess Live.
I'd like to purchase the engine when I'm ready, but three installs and jumping through hoops to sign up for an Internet playing site that I know I will not use doesn't make it promising.
I suppose this version is still being sold, too.
ah well, Glad the original poster is happy wiith the GUI and stuff.
a little bird told me jr2010 seems a bit buggy and not compatible with shredder 12 uci.
But for them not to respond to you like they did is completely out of line. They won't have much luck selling the thing if they act like that. I only bought it because I wanted a Junior engine to play against.
And for what it is worth I actually like the GUI for just playing games. (so far it is useless for analysis...maybe the much promised updates will help with that)
P.s i like the gui as well as the engine.
The GUI itself let me know the update was available when I started it to play a game. Then I just went to the WCL site and downloaded everything again. But I haven't received an update since then.
I hope they stay true to their promise of the GUI being completed sometime in Quarter 1 of 2010.
You know,,,,the 3 license use and then it craps out unless more licenses are bought.
I only thought about it well, you know, what with me seriously wanting to become a Junior 2010 purchaser, you know.
I am assuming that every purchaser is under this 3 license use cap and this license restriction isn't just being applied to you...
>Further more you have a 3 licence use with them
So,,,what? The license key is somehow tied to a key or process so that there is a limited number of installs?
>however i had to format one of my laptops and when i asked for help due to the nature of the problem
So a simple/standard formatting process killed/wiped out one of these license? license no good then? Geez, I would be in a fix. I sometimes format and reinstall the OS several times a year.
>they simply said buy another 3 licences...
So pay the same price as previously paid...again.
>other engine developers i'm sure would of helped
The engine being new, you'd think so.
As for the engine authors, are they the same ones working on the GUI?
Might the engine authors be hands off to the whole selling process?
The GUI being dead if the license installs goes over the limit, does the engine still work? Is the engine tied to the GUI license?
I was thinking of buying the GUI in a month or two since I have no Junior engines. I can't do it now, but it sounds like if I wait too long the engine may not be available due to declining seller caring.
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