Firstly congrats to Vas n the team for their recent victory.
Vas if you holding back on the release coz of the global recession, u misjudging the rybka diehards,
we'll buy it at any price, we certainly not shy to pay for our addiction
I would not hesitate to pay $1000 for Rybka 4,
btw I just invested $75,000 on the SGI octaneII, (20 quad core core, W5590 nehalem processor) for Rybka 4
Are you willing to pay $1000 for rybka 4, Vas needs the encouragement!!!.
In Rybka 3, there is nearly no cores limit.
-Sandy Bridge is the farthest Intel will say in its roadmap. Its the 32nm marchatechture change. (Westmere I think, is what Nelaham marchatechture shrunk to 32nm.)
But so far, Intel has been tight lipped about what exactly Sandy Bridge will do. I think its pretty interesting about Sandy Bridge: its been on the roadmap for at least 2 years (and its at least a year or 2 out from fruition), but so far, Intel hasn't given the slightest hint of whats after Sandy Bridge, as far as marchetechture. Obviously, the Sandy Bridge will have an expected die shrink to 22nm, whatever Intel may call it.
So for now, Sandy Bridge is maybe 18 – 24 months away. The die shrink to 32 nm I think is just a few months away, first half 2010 for sure.
what analyses (kn/s) can i expect on the 8 core nehalem w5590 for rybka 3
i am seeing 350 at start on chess assistant 10 GUI, and flucuates between 350-450 for most of the game and much higher as the number of pieces on board is reduced.
In blitz games 5min<, is persistant has beneficial, or hash only, is the analysis saved automatically or do i have to save after every play, btw i observe the folder size 2gb.
> Persistent hash should be off in games.
>> Persistent hash should be off in games.
> why ?
The consequences of what Vempele said is that Rybka won't update her analysis with higher depth, so, if she loses a game, after reaching the same position she will probably play the same losing moves instantly, missing the point of Persistent Hash.
In other cases, after a long think she will play instantly moves that maybe are not best, which also messes up her time management because she doesn't know that she'll play instantly, so she'll have much more time on the clock than necessary and she'll never use it (because instant moves will keep coming), leading to weaker play. A final problem is that she may choose to play a 3-fold repetition on a winning position.
You can try sidestepping these issues seeing what average depth Rybka reaches and setting Write Depth to a couple plies beyond this value, so that she only plays instantly on high depth positions where she wouldn't reach a higher depth anyway, but finding this optimal value would require playing a lot of games, and on positions were Rybka differs from her average depth by a significant margin you'll get weaker play, which would possibly nullify the advantages you'd get, that's why the easiest is just to keep it off.
Looks like there's a market for it, but I doubt there will be something like this for Rybka 4 :)
so are Cuban Cigars,good time to buy.
here is a good Swiss source
> I am not delaying anything for business reasons.
Thanks for saying that! I'll direct here the conspiracy theorists that think you made a deal with chessbase to delay Rybka 4 until they get enough sales on Fritz
The Redskins will not distract you this season ...
> I just invested $75,000 on the SGI octaneII, (20 quad core core, W5590 nehalem processor) for Rybka 4
If you need to make room for that beast and feel like donating some old gear to charity I'll cover the shipping fees. ;-)
/* Steinar */
IF I use the correct default settings,play infinite analysis at the correct moments,use Ryb or Human settings accurately depending upon the closed or open position,switch over correctly from Human back to Ryb at the precise moments and i'm razor sharp at positively knowing which openings to play for both white and black using not only Ryb book stats but world stats and research the opponents past games with a fine tooth comb and seek out his weakness's ahead of time....well,I can beat the opponent above that laughably bragged about a 75,000 computer and beat him with a single core cheapo!!!!!!!!!!(and guess what?,i've beaten known Ryb users in the past using one of my old singlecores,Ryb3 and the other opponent was using a quad with Ryb3!!!!)I do however,now have an HP Quad 9750 with 8GB memory,terabyte Hard Drive,64 bit and at about 1,100 dollars,that is good enough for me!With my average correspondence rating of over 2500 which was mostly accomplished using a quad that is thousands less than the braggart above,I think I know what i'm talking about and doing.
Hey 75,000 braggart!Don't meet me on a correspondence site,because I'll rip your overrated waste of money machine and Ryb 4 to pieces!!!!And if your not using Ryb 3 or 4 for correspondence,then why bother with some kind of super computer,when a single core using Ryb 3 or 4 on probably a handicap setting will rip you to pieces!
Don't come on this Ryb site again Rybfan and try to think your something special with some kind of supercomputer you probably read about and now fantasize about with the readers here and make yourself 6'10" tall when your probably 5'2",fat and balding!Now put that in your pipe and smoke it!
oh, and rybka 4 can only use about 3-4 thousand dollars worth of that 75K. whoops.
So what if he is spending so much? Good for him, if its not the pc then maybe a new car? Or something else?
quit politicking or whatever the hell youre doing and get real. it was a dumb investment and OP should wise up, not that i feel sorry for him, as im sure it was 'disposable' dollars to him & he can surely return the thing.
What I'm trying to say is that if someone feels like spending 1 million on a computer then that's there choice, who the fuck are you to judge them?
It's your ego insecurities that make you defend yourself, I'm saying grow up and respect other people. Not put them down like your some kind of God...
it was a dumb purchase as outlined by the buyer.
Usually when you pick on someone it's because of your own insecurities, not talking about you but picking on in general, so it's easy to spot out when reading threads here.
We should be a little more mature with how we treat people, even when replying to them. :)
or maybe make him a beta tester. That would undoubtedly be a good move on Vas's part. He has failed to deliver R3+
or R4 in about a year and a half time. He's not a business man, but maybe this fellow with all the cash can buy the
rights to R4 from Vas and employ him at the same time. I'm sure Vas could set his price as a software developer, but
thats all. Maybe there's a better businessman out there that can take over the business of marketing and selling R4.
I do think that's the case. I hope the man with the money see's this. Let's all hope that Vas does something soon!
Something is better than nothing!
I'm simply defending him, and I think it's highly rude for people to call him a fool, are you perfect?
Have some respect. It angers me when I read these condescending threads, can't we be a little more civil?
Also, your not his financial planner and don't know his financial situation so you really can't call the investment dumb.
I can't see what he did wrong here, was he really bragging? Not everyone is poor.
the other stuff, youre just saying stuff i already know. maybe i was too rude in which case i apologize. i have little sympathy for the financial situations of people who can throw away 75000 dollars, but im still a nice enough guy to advise them its not a wise thing to do. and yes, read the post. he said he bought the computer to run rybka, which it wont do as of right now. it was 'not wise'. but it isnt my money and i really dont care all that much.
im not terribly insecure, i think, and i dont 'pick on' people. i dont even make a point of not doing that, its just not me. im not pickign on this guy, i just think he made an unwise financial decision and because he must be in a pretty good place financially to have much such a terrible decision, im not bothering to be gentle in pointing that out. im very much a libertine in all respects and i afford everyone else the same respect.
this guy can do whatever he likes with his money, and i can say its not wise, but im not telling him how to spend it and i wont care if he does end up spending it on this computer. hope you better understand where i was coming from now and sorry for telling you to shut up but i didnt really see where you were coming from either.
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