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- - By pleasant (*) Date 2009-10-10 09:52
i am a new user of CA10 having come to it through Rybka 3 Aquarium.  I find that I need help with CA10 [about the same as with Aquarium - I barely go near Rybka and much of Aquarium seems directed at programmers.] Occasionally I find an 'essay' for players, but even here it would be nicer if these 'essays' were classified and/or indexed.
Parent - By Felix Kling (Gold) Date 2009-10-10 10:17
Of course those programs are not made for programmers, it can be just confusing if you don't have an idea how those programs are structured and want to do something simple. I suggest you ask in the Aquarium subforum if you have questions for Chess Assistant or Aquarium, as the experts for those GUIs are there.

A list of Articles for Chess Assistand and Aquarium can be found here: http://chessok.com/?cat=8
Parent - - By Zarkon (***) Date 2009-10-10 22:26
Better yet - an up-to-date and complete help file!
Parent - - By pleasant (*) Date 2009-10-11 20:04
i fully agree that an up-to-date and complete help file would be enormously valuable. the best i have seen [chessbase for example ] appear quite difficult to construct and maintain One would want to build a help file whose structure would last and which could be kept up-to-date.

as things are, one often asks a question randomly -- only to find that it has been asked and answered before - perhaps many times before: and what might have been an interesting forum topic goes off drifting in the breeze or one spends much time randomly stumbling through the forum, hoping to find  Q/A close enough to the one that initiated one's trip to the forum in the first place.
Parent - By Zarkon (***) Date 2009-10-12 12:44
If the developers were forced to make a one file complete help file it might also help them see the interface and potential problems afresh.

At the end of the day, most people are only going to invest a certain amount of time to getting an application to do what they want.
Parent - - By oddg (**) Date 2009-10-13 11:29
There is a forum at Chessok.com, but it seems rather as a one way communication. Even questions about some menu options are directed to e-mail.
Another forum is (was?) on the play server, they have deleted my account there so I can't check if it still is in use (I can't connect to the forum with a guest account). It was a better two way communication there so it was possible for a user to help another user.

To me it feels like they have given up on the competition with ChessBase when it comes to database programs, at least they try to chase people away from CA.

Ex.
There are some online services that you can subscribe to for getting the latest in opening theorie, the two I subscribe to are ChessPublishing.com and ChessVibes Openings. These services offer the subscriber to download the databases with commented games (opening theorie) in pgn format. All well so far, but when you try to import these games into CA you will (hopefully) discover that you miss a lot of comment and variations. Aquarium get it allmost right but (comment aren't missing or missplaced) it is too bothersome to get it from there into CA. Aquarium in itself isn't good enough with its database features to be used for this.

You can of course say that this is quasi standards to the pgn-format made by Chessbase ( -- for nullmove, CA use Z0), but for a user it doesn't help at all so the user are 'chased' away from CA into Chessbase.

I thought I should wait for the promised (in march it should be a few days) update of CA before I do the switch myself, though I haven't any expectation of a fix on the pgn format.
You get used to use a program and it isn't at all easy to switch to another program without missing a lot of features you use frequently. In real you have to learn to work with your databaseprogram in a different way to get most out of it.

Odd Gunnar
Parent - By Felix Kling (Gold) Date 2009-10-13 11:49
The problem with CA is that development stopped. Aquarium will hopefully integrate missing database functionalities soon, so that there is the ultimate database + analysis program.
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