Uri only said what he said, then, because he would prefer to have a bigger jump than merely from Rybka 3 to Rybka 4. But if he had only R2, in that case he would indded be much more interested in R4 than in R3.
[However, vas, and the producers of Rybka, should actually take it as a challenge, even now, to make Uri want to get Rybka 4, when it comes out].
>Well, Felix said it'd be released in about 2 months, that gives me hopes.
in about 2 months from when?
> well now that both F12 and Shredder 12 have been released I wonder what is Vas waiting for.
Vas has never waited for the releases of the competition, the delay is for a different reason.
> Well- I just hope thats not true. If it is then what was Vas doing all this time?
Like I said : coding and debugging
> btw is Larry working on R4 too?
>The reason is that it's not ready
more than a year and its not ready yet. The truth is that Vas knows that R3 is still #1 even after F12 and S12 have released so he can delay R4 as much as he wants.
>in reality improvements to Rybka are being made every day
really? and just how do you know this?
>more than a year and its not ready yet. The truth is that Vas knows that R3 is still #1 even after F12 and S12 have released so he can delay R4 as much as he wants.
Vas is a professional and I'm sure his need for money is no less than most of us. Therefore I can't see why he would delay the release of Rybka 4 any longer than necessary. If it's not released yet, it is only because Vas doesn't consider it ready.
Only last month did Vempele and I discover a new bug with Rybka 3, I would like to see Vas take his time to ensure that the next version is as bug free as is reasonable. If it were easy to write a program such as Rybka, then many of us would be doing it.
Also I suspect he is probably not content with a 10-20 point elo increase, and calling it a new version, as has happened too often in the past with other programs. I think he values his customer's and his programming ability higher than that. I'm predicting a 70-80 point increase.
> really? and just how do you know this?
Kullberg keeps getting new versions continuously, I assume that they're not just a change in version number but actual improvements, just like with Rybka 2 and 3 Beta.
> I'm sure the difference between Rybka 3 and Rybka 4 is gonna be so small
Wow, do you really have secret wisdom?
Where did it come from?
I assume, R4 will have become better, stronger, nicer as we are used to realize it in comuterchess scene since many years.
If this is not enough for you perhaps you should consider, whether a freeware engine could be enough, 'cause the progress in the last years has to be seen then as 'peanuts'!
and where do you get this info from?
"I'm sure the difference between Rybka 3 and Rybka 4 is gonna be so small that it's not worth the buy"
> Never play with less than a quadcore and a 3+Ghz processor like me...
W98/R3/Arena is runnable on a machine with 135MB, perhaps 128MB.
Which CPU could be fittingg then? Pentium3? Did good Pentium2-Machines have 128MB?
Which RAM was built in very good Pentium1-Machines?
These are the real interesting plattforms!
Try to have success then!
(And try to beat R3 under fair conditions then!)
What ELO could be reachable then on the servers?
> let rybka go for another year , the others havent caught up yet , so why release rybka 4
Vas wants to earn money now.
And I, owning R3, will not buy another Rybka until it has number 4.
And those, who do not own R3 perhaps will buy no R3 now, 'cause the 'whole world' speaks about R4.
If there is a R4-offer now, Vas will get the money now.
If it comes in 6 months, the money will come then.
And the point of time when to offer R5 will be aproximately 6 months later.
Offering several months later will mean, owning less money during the netxt months and years.
Vas could wait until an opponent reaches R3-strength.
(Vas would remain the strongest-engine-developer for many months, perhaps more than a year. More?)
But he would earn not so very much money during this period.
But he will have his own thoughts.
There's no way Rybka 5 will come out that soon after 4...
R5 will come x monhs after R4.
And if R4 comes out in 6 months, then R5 will be there in x+6 months.
Each R4-delay will cause a similar R5-delay...
Powered by mwForum 2.27.4 © 1999-2012 Markus Wichitill