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- - By Maitra (**) Date 2008-12-28 14:23
Hi All- I've a question which perhaps might have been asked before. One of my friends has an Intel Q6600 with Intel DG31PR motherboard. Is it possible to overclock the Q6600 cpu? If not,why? And what needs to be done to oc that system to maybe 3.2Ghz. What are the alternate motherboards(non-Intel) with is compatible with a quad and supports overclocking? Is it that original Intel motherboards cant be oc?

-Thanks
Parent - - By M ANSARI (*****) Date 2008-12-28 14:48
Answer is yes and do a search in the forum and you will find all the information you need.
Parent - - By Maitra (**) Date 2008-12-28 15:12
Hi Ansari-Can you be a little more specific and let me know where exactly to search for in forum. Thanks
Parent - - By Vempele (Silver) Date 2008-12-28 16:32
The overclocking thread on the Computer Chess subforum (wink, wink, nudge, nudge) (why didn't you post this topic there?) seems like a good place to start.
Parent - - By Peter Grayson (****) Date 2009-01-02 16:09
I thought the Overclocking thread was to be a Sticky? I can't see it in Computer Chess.

PeterG
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2009-01-03 00:04
Un-stickied due to lack of interest (2 months without a post.)
Parent - - By Vempele (Silver) Date 2009-01-03 09:03
Interest ≠ Posts. How many hits did the thread get in that time?
Parent - By Uly (Gold) Date 2009-01-03 09:44

> How many hits did the thread get in that time?


Sorry, that's top secret information not even revealed to Vytron.

Anyway, I've stickied it again, I'll take note of the hits this time :P
Parent - - By Lukas Cimiotti (Bronze) Date 2008-12-28 17:02
I don't know this board - but most cheap Intel mainboards have no BIOS options for overclocking. So I guess you can only do it by software. But there isn't any software for raising CPU core voltage. So overclocking capabilities should be very limited. An Asus P5K is much better for overclocking.

Regards,
Lukas
Parent - - By Maitra (**) Date 2008-12-28 19:06
Hi Lukas-this is an originial Intel mobo which you can search for in the Net too. Its for quad core. So is the DG35 motherboard. When we saw the BIOS, we couldn't find any options at all to overclock. Which software are you referring to? So then majority or all Intel boards cant be oc at all?
Parent - - By M ANSARI (*****) Date 2008-12-28 19:13
Intel does have special motherboards which are specifically for overclocking.  They are the Extreme Edition motherboards ... I am not sure about the other Intel products though.  The EE Intel boards are great though, and I have had one with an overclocked Quadcore (2.66 to 3.2Ghz) running since the first QX6700 came out.  It runs 24/7 now for what must be more than 2 years.  You can probably get more bang for your buck though if you use an Asus or Gigabyte board.  I have also had great success overclocking Q6600's to 3.4Ghz using $100 Gigabyte board.
Parent - - By Vegan (****) Date 2008-12-29 16:31
I standardized on Asus several years ago, and have been happy ever since.  Asus gives you more options than most, and they are very solidly manufactured. My current board is an older M2NBP-CSM corporate platform, rock stable. I can ut a Phenom CPU on it, but I am still using the original X2 4200 I bought back with the board.

The board allow all manor of overclocking if that is what you want to do. I do not use it, I just run the CPU as it is intended and it never freezes. It also runs quite cool as I have a 65W CPU.

Intel only has limited options, and you need one of their expensive gaming boards to overclock. Those boards are triple the cost of the cheap ones. The Intel EE CPUs are even worse.

The AMD X4 Black Edition is 1/4 the cost.
Parent - - By Maitra (**) Date 2009-01-01 13:07
Can anyone please specify the name/model number of Asus motherboard which allows overclocking a quad cpu. Does the Asus P5 KPL -AM/PS support oc?
Parent - - By Phil Harris (***) Date 2009-01-01 15:28
I think the KPL is the Intel G31 chipset, which is not the best choice for over clocking. That board is designed for simple computers without high CPU or graphics demands. It may be possible to do small FSB over clocks, but I doubt much else in the way of voltage changes.

I found the P45 to be the most stable LGA775 over clock platform, so I would recommend starting with one of those.

A list of Asus P45 boards can be found here http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=709
Parent - - By Maitra (**) Date 2009-01-01 16:01 Edited 2009-01-01 16:04
Phil-Thx for your reply. I must confess I'm no hardware expert. I have a Q6600 with Intel DG31PR motherboard. Can I oc this motherboard? dont think so becos in BIOS I couldn't find any options to do so. Can you just specify one motherboard(becos from that list of mobos on Asus website I got confused like P5Q3,P5Q-SE etc)which is pretty much stable and not too expensive to oc safely. I wanted to go for Intel DG35 motherboard initially but dont think that mobo also supports oc does it? Is the P45 chipset included onboard in Asus motherboards?
Parent - - By Phil Harris (***) Date 2009-01-01 16:55
If value for money is very important, I would have a look at something like this http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mainboards/display/ga-p35-ds3l.html

This is a Gigabyte P35 DS3L, which over clocks pretty well and is manufactured to a decent standard, I think these sell for around $80.

Intel boards are extremely well made, but most of their market is made up of people who want reliability above all else. The good thing is that there are hundreds of different enthusiast boards out there, and over clocking a Q6600 can bring very good results.
Parent - - By Maitra (**) Date 2009-02-22 08:31
Yes Phil I understand that. As you know I've a Q6600, which I want to oc. But I'm confused whether its a B stepping or G0 stepping. Can you please see the screenshot and confirm which stepping I have? Can you also say from which reseller I can get the Gigabyte motherboads here in India (I couldn't find one in kolkata)and which specific one should I use P35 or any other model(cheap and value for money)for oc Q6600.If I cant find gigabyte mobo I have to switch over to Asus .In that case will I have to reinstall the OS? I currently have Intel mobo DG31PR  Also whats the best hash size u use for tb's? My toal memory is 2 gig and am currently using 64 Mb for endgame tb's? Is it an optimim value? Thanks
Parent - - By Phil Harris (***) Date 2009-02-22 10:12
Thats a G0, so you have the better version.

It's possible to get good overclocking results with lots of different motherboards. The difference between them tends to be at the extreme ends of performance, which would of course require expensive and exotic cooling.

My favourite chipset for that CPU is the P45, which means the Asus P5Q series. That doesn't mean that you wouldn't also get great results with the P35 (Asus P5K series). In fact I was talking to someone in playchess who was still using the p965 chipset (AsusP5B series), and getting pretty good over clocking results.

The point being, that the thing that is most likely to limit how far you can over clock is going to be temperature rather than the choice of motherboard, provided you buy a board which gives you the BIOS option to over clock.

I don't know about Gigabyte's Indian operation I'm afraid, but I'm sure a little patient googling will find something.

TB Cache is a complete mystery to me.... I have tried lots of different settings but never noticed any significant difference. Majd and I did discover that a very low setting (i.e 1mb) is VERY bad for 3 minute games... I am running with 64mb too at the moment, and it seems fine. I am not an expert on this at all, so please ask some of the people here who know.
Parent - - By Maitra (**) Date 2009-02-26 14:54
Hi Phil-Thx for the info.Yes I think I'll go for ASUS P5QC  mobo.Its Intel P45 chipset.Can you confirm whether it supports oc. In addition can you please say that in the BIOS what exactly are the values I need to give like for example to change voltage,FSB values to oc Q6600 from 2.4 Ghz to 3.2GHz? I mean like I need the exact values of voltage changes and FSB changes that I'll be doing in the BIOS(I mean the procedure since I'll be doing it for the first time). Will oc to 3.2Ghz be safe or I can go further up? -Thanks
Parent - - By Phil Harris (***) Date 2009-02-26 21:54
It's a long time since I over clocked a Q6600 on an Asus board, but 3.2gHz with a G0 processor should be quite simple. I don't have a manual for that board, so it's difficult to give you exact settings.

You will need to get a good quality air cooler to keep your temperatures under control. Something like the Thermalright Ultra Extreme or the Noctua N12 will do a good job.

I would imagine your CPU will need only a small Vcore increase to achieve that, maybe start at 1.36v to get it running and check the load temperatures with the FSB set to 355. That should run at 3.2gHz and be stable. You may be able to reduce that voltage, once it's passed an OCCT   (http://www.ocbase.com/perestroika_en/index.php?Download)   load test, reduce the Vcore by 0.01v and try it again, keep doing this til your system fails the test, then put the Vcore back to +0.02v over the figure it failed at. So if it fails the test at 1.32v, you know it should be good at 1.34v.

Let me know when you get the board and I will try to find some more information that will help get you started.
Parent - By Maitra (**) Date 2009-03-01 09:35
Hi Phil-Thx again.Actually to monitor cpu temperatures  I use CoreTemp and I always find that all my cpu core temps are generally around 48 deg C nearly all the time with no cooling and when I'm playing on auto in Playchess it occasionally crosses 50 deg . As you know Indian climate is very hot, temp in summer stays around 38 -40 deg C. I guess getting an ac in my room would help keeping it cool. Plus when I oc I will need good cooling. I'll let u know once I get that board. What are the temps u get when u let it run on auto say after 8-10 hrs at a stretch?
Parent - By CSullivan (**) Date 2009-02-27 00:41
Here is a link to the page in a review that discusses overclocking the P5Q3:
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/asus_p5q3/6.htm

At Benchmark Reviews
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=303&Itemid=69
they recommend making sure you get compatible memory (their OCZ Platinum DDR3 1600 @ 7-6-6-24 worked fine) for the P5Q3.

I have a P5Q and it would not load Vista 64-bit with a DVD+R drive from Memorex or LG.  (Loading Windows XP 32-bit worked OK).  Luckily, I had a DVD-ROM (read-only!) drive from Sony that worked fine.
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