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In terms of testing a test engine the most useful test was generally a match between a human (usually expert ) and the engine. Of course that is a well known fact!!! As engines became stronger and stronger this turned to be a not so fair match. Many people proposed certain handicaps for the machine (material or time odds,constrained use of opening book e.t.c). Lev Alburt (perhaps not only him) proposed the idea of people using a not so advanced engine against monster engines. Why is the Rybka family not considering a match of this sort? I think there are more good conclusions to be made in matches of this sort. I also think that this will be a kind of ultimate test for the engine (definitelly not an easy one). Reasons for this:
a) People will in general avoid blunder moves.
b) They will probably not hesitate to enter complicated positions.
c) There exist free source codes which a bit handicapped will be just great for a match like this! Consider Kramnik using the Crafty engine (probably an older version) against Hydra or Rybka or whatever!!
I'm open to opinions...
Ioannis
a) People will in general avoid blunder moves.
b) They will probably not hesitate to enter complicated positions.
c) There exist free source codes which a bit handicapped will be just great for a match like this! Consider Kramnik using the Crafty engine (probably an older version) against Hydra or Rybka or whatever!!
I'm open to opinions...
Ioannis
IMHO, a GM would win such a match quite easily. The last couple freestyle events have shown that a human with computer assistance plays stronger than a computer alone in chess matches. Even the relatively primative chess engine will eliminate major tactical blunders. Also, I think the human would still try to avoid complicated positions with these conditions.
In terms of producing interesting chess, the idea has merit. Jaan Ehlvest has been talking to me about this idea too. But in terms of measuring or demonstrating the strength of Rybka, it is rather useless -- it is instead a measure of the combined strength of the master/software combination, which is a far less established quantity than the strength of a single program like Rybka. If Rybka wins, it just means (probably) that the program or player was too weak or that they did not coordinate well together. So while I would like to see it happen, I would not be particularly interested in hosting/organizing such a match myself, nor would I consider the result to have any significance except to demonstrate whether man+machine can play better than either component (which I believe has already been established).
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You can find many instances of Rybka vs humans + Rybka in the freestyle tournaments. My own team has maybe a 65% score in such conditions.
You could also have humans + weaker engine vs Rybka. This could be interesting, but in general you won't want to have matches where the rules are too exotic. It's why I like the pawn handicaps - it's clean and simple.
Vas
You could also have humans + weaker engine vs Rybka. This could be interesting, but in general you won't want to have matches where the rules are too exotic. It's why I like the pawn handicaps - it's clean and simple.
Vas
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