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Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2008-10-31 21:06
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.0-0 b5 6.Bb3 Be7 7.Re1 0-0 8.c3 d6 9.h3 Bb7
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Zaitsev or Lenzerheide Var.
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2008-10-31 22:55
is there any Rybka member who thinks that  Icy Shark Bar will lose this game.
Parent - - By Dragon Mist (****) [hr] Date 2008-10-31 23:47
I think we have a good chance of winning.
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2008-10-31 23:50
well you know we are all doing our best.
Parent - By Dragon Mist (****) [hr] Date 2008-11-01 07:44
I know that, that is why I'm saying we have a pretty good chances for winning. :-)
Parent - - By Hetman (*****) Date 2008-11-01 18:11
what about draw ? :-)
Parent - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2008-11-01 18:18

> what about draw ? :-)


I think drawing chances are over 80%, perhaps over 90%.
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2008-11-01 18:22
unfortunately at this level,that is the normal result,but we hope to make an exception to that rule.
Parent - By Hetman (*****) Date 2008-11-01 18:35
better not... ;-)
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2008-11-01 21:19
as above 10.d4
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Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2008-11-02 18:02
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.0-0 Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 d6 8.c3 0-0 9.h3 Bb7 10.d4 Re8
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Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2008-11-03 18:48
as above 11.Nbd2
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Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2008-11-03 22:24
dont worry boys we wont still be in book at move 20.
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2008-11-03 23:20
whats blacks best move.
Parent - - By Hetman (*****) Date 2008-11-07 20:00
Is it not the Archangelsky variation ?
Parent - - By turbojuice1122 (Gold) [us] Date 2008-11-07 23:59
It could have been if we had gone down normal lines in the initial move order, but we are instead in a Zaitsev.  We will probably still be very well in book at move 20.
Parent - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2008-11-08 01:00
after move 17 i believe there is a lot of play,of course they may have a pet line and deviate earlier.
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2008-11-04 21:15
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.0-0 Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 d6 8.c3 0-0 9.h3 Bb7 10.d4 Re8 11.Nbd2 Bf8

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lets see what you boys suggest now,dont worry we will take no notice.
Parent - - By Dragon Mist (****) [hr] Date 2008-11-04 22:58
12. a4 is known as most usual and very probably the best here.
Parent - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2008-11-04 23:04
sorry i have just deleted my reply,i forgot this is an open forum
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2008-11-04 23:40
http://chessok.com/?page_id=98

have a look at this.
Parent - By Dragon Mist (****) [hr] Date 2008-11-05 23:32
An interesting resource. Shredder site also has something like this, only their database is not very up-to-date. Here, a quick check shows there are some serious novelties?!!! Do you know what source they use for their tree?
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2008-11-05 20:48 Edited 2008-11-05 20:50
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.0-0 b5 6.Bb3 Be7 7.Re1 0-0 8.c3 d6 9.h3 Bb7 10.d4 Re8 11.Nbd2 Bf8 12.a4
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following Kasparov-Karpov match 1990.
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2008-11-06 18:49
as above 12...h6
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Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2008-11-06 22:15
any bright ideas here guys.
Parent - By Dragon Mist (****) [hr] Date 2008-11-07 09:25
I think 13. Bc2 is a standard here.
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2008-11-07 21:06
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.0-0 b5 6.Bb3 Be7 7.Re1 0-0 8.c3 d6 9.h3 Bb7 10.d4 Re8 11.Nbc2 Bf8 12.a4 h6 13.Bc2
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Parent - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2008-11-08 01:09
i am very confidant that this game will enrich opening theory,and that OTB players who deviate from whites main line,do so at there peril
Parent - - By Hetman (*****) Date 2008-10-31 20:00
You may consider that opponents could use non commercial chess programm. It does not mean that it is the weaker one.
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2008-10-31 20:08
maybe Hydra,ha ha.
Parent - - By TGO (**) [si] Date 2008-11-01 00:05
just watch that vas doesn't stab you in the back with cluster rybka! XD
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2008-11-01 00:08
when Kullberg plays,he plays for us.
in no games have we had any help from Larry or Vas, nor asked for any.i would just like to put this on record.
Parent - - By TGO (**) [si] Date 2008-11-01 08:12
hehe, I was just joking :).
Otherwise I know, I kept track of the match with hiarcs. This one with the gladiators promises to be even more exiting becouse of the opening!
Parent - - By Hetman (*****) Date 2008-11-01 08:37
Endgame will be deciding factor.
Parent - By TGO (**) [si] Date 2008-11-01 12:48
ofcourse, I can see that. The GM's probably chose the spanish becouse of that.
Parent - - By Hetman (*****) Date 2008-11-01 08:22 Edited 2008-11-01 08:36
I do not mean it.  I wanted to warn you ;-)  because I estimate that you are in worse situation then group of chess professionals.

There are many talented programmers and chessplayers in Russia so ... it is very probable that there are programs written or modified on individual request.  That programms could be stronger then serial programs like F11, R3, Z....  :-(.
Like on the car market - there are Fiats and Ferraris ;-) .
If the russian media would treat that match more seriously then you can expect the stronger professional computer on the opposite site.

So you can face the professional driver in a professional car.

Rgds
Hetman
Parent - - By pokerpawn (***) [be] Date 2008-11-01 23:10
out on a limb here , guessing they will play Re8 here :)
Parent - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2008-11-02 00:01
no comment.
Parent - - By Hetman (*****) Date 2008-11-02 08:39
the wisdom(knowledge) is coming from bad experiences
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2008-11-09 21:48
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.0-0 b5 6.Bb3 Be7 7.Re1 0-0 8.c3 d6 9.h3 Bb7 10.d4 Re8 11.Nbd2 Bf8 12.a4 h6 13.Bc2 exd4 14.cxd4 Nb4 15.Bb1 hey guys this is getting hard work.
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Parent - - By Dadi Jonsson (Silver) [is] Date 2008-11-09 22:06
Brings back memories of Mexico. How often did we see this position there? :)
Parent - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2008-11-09 22:16
yes,i forgot that.bad memories.i wish Cozzie would get involved again.
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2008-11-09 22:50
i expect normal reply 15...c5
Parent - By Dadi Jonsson (Silver) [is] Date 2008-11-09 22:58
Even more Mexico :) That's what was played in the three games there.
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2008-11-09 22:52
i take it for granted you are looking in on us and what we are thinking.
Parent - - By Dadi Jonsson (Silver) [is] Date 2008-11-09 22:58
Now and then. Not much to say about these opening moves.
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2008-11-09 23:08
whilst i trust everyone is having fun the game to me will only start at 17...x
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2008-11-09 23:54

> whilst i trust everyone is having fun the game


What game? The game hasn't started yet :(
Parent - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2008-11-09 23:59
i wish you tell the rest of them this,as Dadi pointed out still Mexico.
Parent - By tano-urayoan (****) [pr] Date 2008-11-10 03:34
Forget Mexico, classic Kasparov - Karpov here
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