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Poll On a scale from 1 - 10, what would you give this logo? (Closed)
10 - perfect 1 1%
9 - excellent 3 3%
8 - very good 6 5%
7 - good 13 12%
6 - above average 17 15%
5 - nothing special 29 26%
4 - bad 22 19%
3 - very bad 3 3%
2 - ugly 7 6%
1 - crap 12 11%
- - By Felix Kling (Gold) [de] Date 2008-09-16 12:30 Edited 2008-09-16 12:35


If you have suggestions for improvement, please let me know.
Parent - - By tigershark (**) Date 2008-09-16 12:35
would be better if the board behind was an 8x8 chessboard
Parent - By Felix Kling (Gold) [de] Date 2008-09-16 12:40
mmh, showing all the 8*8 squares would be too much, but I now notice that the board is a bitr crippled due to some changes, so I will fix that (you will see a part of the board which is about 4*4)

Chessbase has also a 4*4 board and not a complete one in their logo...
Parent - - By InspectorGadget (*****) [za] Date 2008-09-16 12:52
What does the yellowish circle with a pawn symbolise? :)

Does it symbolise Rybka conquering the world of chess or what?
Parent - - By richbell (**) [in] Date 2008-09-16 12:56 Edited 2008-09-16 12:59
when the icon is small the checks are not visible. Make it more intense so that they more visible with clarity. Also more detailed fish would be better. It looks too simple in details now.
Parent - By Felix Kling (Gold) [de] Date 2008-09-16 13:07
that's ok. The logo will rarely be that big and most of the time the small logo will be used.

Also the little squares are just an unimportant detail. If you don't really see it it's ok.
Parent - By Felix Kling (Gold) [de] Date 2008-09-16 13:06
exactly :)
Parent - - By Axel Caro (**) Date 2008-09-16 13:15 Edited 2008-09-16 13:24
Hi Felix,

in my opinion, the shark-in-a-bowl composition is not an improvement. Without bowl I liked it much better.

Although it's technically well done, there is some lack of wit and meaning. Here Rybka is wether dynamic, nor sophisticated, nor clever, innovative or humorous.

It should be something, which one associates with the spirit and virtues of Rybka 3.

Which image shall be represented by the logo?

If it's a shark, why not an clever-aggressive one - swimming through a chessboard, sure of victory, pushing pawns aside!?

I admit, that it is difficult to create a simple but meaningful, unique logo! ;-)

Best regards
Axel
Parent - - By Felix Kling (Gold) [de] Date 2008-09-16 13:21
" of wit and meaning"

Wit, yes. Meaning: Total domination :) (as mentioned above)

Let's see if we get a gauss-graph with the votes ;)
Parent - By Axel Caro (**) Date 2008-09-16 13:28 Edited 2008-09-16 13:34

> Let's see if we get a gauss-graph with the votes


Will a gauss-graph suffice? An excellent program deserves an excellent logo!

Hm, and the bowl... To me it stimulates some claustrophobic feelings... Counteracting the idea of freedom and conquering-the-world. ;-)
Parent - By Charles (**) Date 2008-09-16 13:41

> in my opinion, the shark-in-a-bowl composition is not an improvement. Without bowl I liked it much better.


On first look I'd agree about the bowl being not so good.

Bowl says I hope there is someone to frequently change the water or else that goldfish, excuse me, that shark is gonna die.

No room for the shark to move around in that bowl either.

That's just me on a first look - but as far as artistry goes the bowl looks cool.
Parent - - By Linus (***) [at] Date 2008-09-16 15:04
With the orange color and the round design it looks to much like the Firefox logo. Try having the two next to each other in the task bar. They will not be easy to separate or identify.
Parent - By Felix Kling (Gold) [de] Date 2008-09-16 15:35
I don't think so. I have them next to each other on my computer and they are quite different. only the theme has some similarities.
Parent - - By Charles (**) Date 2008-09-16 16:56
How would it look if the blue circle was kept like you have it now but any indication of it being any kind of container wasn't indicated.

Like you have the logo now but with just the bluish color around the globe. No water level or container opening indicated.
Parent - By bluemax (**) [ie] Date 2008-09-16 17:16
Sorry but the first one looks like a spacemans helmet from an Austin Powers film :)

Best I've seen is the ChessCentre (UK) logo.
Parent - - By Felix Kling (Gold) [de] Date 2008-09-16 17:38
I guess it would look like this
Parent - - By ologist (**) [us] Date 2008-09-16 17:47
Honestly, it terribly looks like you totally ripped the base design from he FireFox logo.  I'd trash it, and make something original.  This is prime commercial software, not freeware or something that you expect such blatant usage of other IP, and claiming 'fair usage' for your legal leg to stand on. 
Parent - - By Felix Kling (Gold) [de] Date 2008-09-16 18:12
the firefox thing is also nothing completely new. Anyway, there the fox is at the bottom, this fish is going around the globe. I don't think the connection to Firefox is too strong. Not even similar I think.
Parent - - By ologist (**) [us] Date 2008-09-16 18:16
I think the logo needs to be more reflective of what the word Rybka means, which is little fish.  Therefore, it should not be a conventional fish (i.e., shark) use to offer picturesque of what the word Rybka truly means.
Parent - - By Felix Kling (Gold) [de] Date 2008-09-17 13:54
ok, but somehow my attempts don't look that good. something is missing without the globe and shark...
Parent - By BenVanVlierden (***) [nl] Date 2008-09-17 19:46
lol!!!!!!!!!
Parent - By Carl Bicknell (*****) [gb] Date 2008-09-17 21:54
angry fish swimming in the sea biting a chess piece = perfect image. I like the shark
Parent - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2008-09-18 00:13
I'd choose this logo instead of the shark logo any day!
Parent - - By Felix Kling (Gold) [de] Date 2008-09-19 07:16
ok, following one suggestion I got via private message (IÄm not sure if the idea is good, but I tried it anyway)
Parent - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2008-09-19 09:23
I'd still pick this logo over the shark one any day!

Try getting rid of the orange globe, you don't need it. (or get rid of the aquarium and make the orange globe an aquarium.)
Parent - By Dr.X (Gold) Date 2008-09-19 17:18 Edited 2008-09-19 17:28
You need a little more than a rainbow, Felix-where is the earth and the sky and the mud below- (forgive me I'm getting carried away) :-) 

Make it more reflective of our ecological perspective- a round globe within the bowl an arch fish in PERSPECTIVE leaping arched back out of the ocean-

a rainbow above spanning the globe- that was my suggestion. In transparency RYBKA 3 
Parent - - By Labyrinth (*****) [us] Date 2008-09-20 00:58
OH! A rainbow fish. All we need now is some little Mermaid characters, Hello Kitty and some bright pink stars/hearts. The world's strongest Computer Chess program should have the sissiest logo possible!



It's possible i'm being a bit sarcastic...
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2008-09-20 01:39

> It's possible i'm being a bit sarcastic...


If not I propose something like:



Because it's Fish+Human! Get it?

Ahh... Nevermind.
Parent - - By Sandalls (**) [us] Date 2008-09-20 22:58
More cleavage and I'll buy it!  :-)
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2008-09-21 07:04
I spent hours looking for a mermaid without cleavage, finding this one was hard, a cute logo, remember?
Parent - By Sandalls (**) [us] Date 2008-09-21 07:20
:-)
Parent - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2008-09-23 21:35
very dirty,very clever.it will do for me.
Parent - By BenVanVlierden (***) [nl] Date 2008-09-20 20:02

> It's possible i'm being a bit sarcastic...


Maybe, but I can't detect it ...

:-D :-D :-D
Parent - By ologist (**) [us] Date 2008-09-21 22:43
Something about that graphic tickles me, lol. 
Parent - By Carl Bicknell (*****) [gb] Date 2008-09-16 17:59
The fish needs to be nastier. like a shark showing its teeth or something
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2008-09-16 23:45
It's too reminiscent of the firefox logo. Just flip and rotate it and you get:



Seems familiar?

That's not my main issue with the logo, though, it's the shark what I don't like (the fact that it's a shark.)
Parent - By InspectorGadget (*****) [za] Date 2008-09-17 10:15
I like the good old nasty looking fish with the protruding teeth. Why not modify that old logo a little bit?
Parent - By Silvian (***) [ro] Date 2008-09-17 11:44
"Seems familiar?"

YES !
YES!
YES!

WOW !

This logo reminds me the date of October 21.
I'm terrified !
The tail of this shark (maded by strangelets-of course) has the origin in Geneve. You must dot this fact.Seems for me the logo of Firefox/Rybka 3 fated for another universe.
Poor Ruxy !
I'm totally depressed !

Sad regards,
Silvian :)
Parent - By Dr.X (Gold) Date 2008-09-18 21:22
dido on that- that it is too alike the Fire Fox logo! :-)
Parent - - By BenVanVlierden (***) [nl] Date 2008-09-17 11:43
I'm not quite happy with he head and the backfin of the shark. The head with visible mouth, as in one of the earlier draughts seems better to me. The backfin should, imho, be a bit bigger and more cleanly triangular.

But apart from these small imperfections, if they're not a matter of personal taste in the first place, I think it's very good!
Parent - - By Felix Kling (Gold) [de] Date 2008-09-17 16:20
ok, showing the mouth and making it more like earlier attempts wouldnt fit to the globe, but I tried to make it more "sharky":
Attachment: Rybka44.svg (49k)
Parent - By BenVanVlierden (***) [nl] Date 2008-09-17 19:44 Edited 2008-09-17 19:53
Yes, the nose is much better so! And also the fin.

And you've made the tailfin more realisitic as well; didn't realise you were such a shark-expert!

This way it really looks a small shark!

Yes, this is really much better! If it wasn't for the mouth, I'd raise my marks from very good to excellent.
Parent - By BenVanVlierden (***) [nl] Date 2008-09-17 20:04
The more I look at it, the better I like this. In comparison the fish on the previous design looks really plump and silly.

Whatever you're going to change next, keep these lines, they're very fluid, elegant and sort of natural-looking (as in the very first proposal, with the dark pawn and the yellow shark).
Parent - - By BenVanVlierden (***) [nl] Date 2008-09-17 20:08 Edited 2008-09-17 20:12
Perhaps, to attain maximum harmony, the breast-fin should be a little less sharp.

And, another thought, I don't think it really needs to be in a darker colour. For that matter, just colour the entire shark in one shade of gray, maybe a little bit darker than now, and you will gain in simplicity and in expressiveness!
Parent - - By Felix Kling (Gold) [de] Date 2008-09-17 21:41
What about this? now the shark is better from the proportions and I don't have the problem with the strange tail anymore...
Parent - By vroger007 (**) [be] Date 2008-09-17 23:36
maybe it would still be a little more complete (pun intended) if the pawn was accompanied by another pawn that has just been promoted to.... a bishop!
ROFL ;-)
Roger
Parent - - By Dr.X (Gold) Date 2008-09-18 21:26
Felix,

No offense but the logo is rather " blase' "  " blase' " " blase' "  on all fronts! :-)
Parent - By Felix Kling (Gold) [de] Date 2008-09-18 21:30
you mean it's not sharky enough? :)
Parent - - By Roland Rösler (****) [de] Date 2008-09-19 03:59
Maybe this is a Aquarium logo but never a Rybka logo! .-)
Parent - By Felix Kling (Gold) [de] Date 2008-09-19 06:41
pffff :)
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