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- - By Steffelino (**) [se] Date 2008-05-07 14:40
Hi Vas!

As a customer to Rybka 2.3.2 a do I get Rybka 3 before the official realease?

"you are welcome to tell how far away it is".......

Good luck with you work!
Steffelino
Parent - - By davidwhite (***) Date 2008-05-08 05:23
It's simply impossible that your question is serious!
Parent - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2008-05-08 05:45

> It's simply impossible that your question is serious!


That's how HIARCS does it, actually.
Parent - - By Vasik Rajlich (Silver) [hu] Date 2008-05-08 13:55
Sorry, no. I'm a firm believer in KISS :)

Vas
Parent - - By masterchess (***) [us] Date 2008-05-08 15:24
Are you saying I have to KISS you before I can get Rybka 3?  If that is what it takes I guess you are going to get a KISS!  This is in fun!
Parent - - By Nelson Hernandez (Silver) [us] Date 2008-05-08 17:36
Aw man, we don't want the Rybka forum to be associated with this sort of thing. 
Parent - - By masterchess (***) [us] Date 2008-05-08 18:49
This was done in jest!  It could have been NISS, Nelson kept it simple stupid!
Parent - - By Nelson Hernandez (Silver) [us] Date 2008-05-08 20:46
I know that, but I thought you were using a double-entendre.  I must confess I imagined you prancing around, striking poses and blowing limp-wristed kisses at Vas to get to the head of the Rybka 3 line.
Parent - - By masterchess (***) [us] Date 2008-05-08 21:11
Thanks for your understanding! That is not my style, now if a few extra hundred dollars would get the job done, I would that!
Parent - - By Banned for Life (Gold) Date 2008-05-08 21:54
There's always the possibility of 50-yard line seats for the Redskins games complete with first class airfare to and from Budapest, but you're short a couple of zeros for this option.

Alan
Parent - - By Vasik Rajlich (Silver) [hu] Date 2008-05-10 10:35
I prefer the opponent's 20 yard line. In Redskin games, that's where most of the action is. (Yes, it requires two seats)

Vas
Parent - - By Banned for Life (Gold) Date 2008-05-10 17:37
This approach has the additional advantage of preventing you from seeing the action when the other team is doing well! :-D

Alan
Parent - - By Roland Rösler (****) [de] Date 2008-05-11 02:12
Have you ever heard, what Vas is thinking about soccer? When I hear Hungary, I think about soccer. Okay, it´s 54 years over now, but in soccer this isn´t much time (you have your legends).
Parent - - By Vasik Rajlich (Silver) [hu] Date 2008-05-12 10:24
Soccer is also good, since the Czechs flat-out rule :)

Vas
Parent - - By Steffelino (**) [se] Date 2008-05-12 10:35
What about hockey?
go sweden go!
Parent - - By Vasik Rajlich (Silver) [hu] Date 2008-05-12 10:53
That too. Tennis, hockey and soccer. :)

Vas
Parent - - By Banned for Life (Gold) Date 2008-05-12 19:30
Hockey is always good. If you can't win the game, you can try for the consolation prize (beating the crap out of your opponents).

Alan
Parent - By Steffelino (**) [se] Date 2008-05-12 21:09
Yes! like Rybka does!!
Parent - - By Vasik Rajlich (Silver) [hu] Date 2008-05-14 13:03
I thought it's that if you can't beat the crap out of your opponents, you can at least try to score more goals.

Vas
Parent - - By Steffelino (**) [se] Date 2008-05-14 15:55
You right Vas but Rybka does both!!

"tell me how good Rybka 3 preform"

Steffelino
Parent - - By Vasik Rajlich (Silver) [hu] Date 2008-05-16 11:25

> "tell me how good Rybka 3 preform"


Right now she's brawling with older Rybka versions ..

Vas
Parent - - By Patricio (***) [ar] Date 2008-05-16 14:49
Vas,

Is there any chance that you tell us about Rybka 3 performance against older vesions?

Best regards,

                          Patricio.
Parent - - By turbojuice1122 (Gold) [us] Date 2008-05-16 15:39
It's veeerrry gooooood. :-D
Parent - By masterchess (***) [us] Date 2008-05-16 18:22
Don't say that, I am wanting it so bad that I had them increase the credit limit on my credit card! Yes, the wife does not know about it!
Parent - - By Vasik Rajlich (Silver) [hu] Date 2008-05-20 12:06
Something like that :)

Seriously, the right way is to let independent testers tell us. Home testing is best left at home for a zillion reasons.

Vas
Parent - - By turbojuice1122 (Gold) [us] Date 2008-05-20 15:37
How many is a zillion?  Is it greater than, equal to, or less than the number of elo points that Rybka 3 will gain over Rybka 2.3.2a?
Parent - By Vasik Rajlich (Silver) [hu] Date 2008-05-22 07:09
Zillion is a biiiiiig number, we'll define it soooooon :)

Vas
Parent - - By Banned for Life (Gold) Date 2008-05-14 16:11
Yes, of course you are correct. At least in North America, hockey is mainly a forum for brawling with unusual weapons. And teams that don't score many goals are generally not penalized, since only about 3 teams don't make the playoffs anyway. :-D

Alan
Parent - By Vasik Rajlich (Silver) [hu] Date 2008-05-16 11:24
True. In no other US pro sports league is the regular season as meaningless. NBA is a distant second, because unlike the NHL a) home court actually matters (as we're seeing right now) b) the winning team always ends up being one of the top seeds.

Vas
Parent - By BB (****) [au] Date 2008-05-16 15:48

>since only about 3 teams don't make the playoffs anyway. :-D


Even if correct, this would still be one more than in Canadian football, eh...
Parent - - By BB (****) [gb] Date 2008-06-16 18:15

>Hockey is always good. If you can't win the game, you can try for the consolation prize (beating the crap out of your opponents).


Just ran across this PDF that analyses the economics of it all.

Abstract:
The level of violence in the National Hockey League (NHL) reached its highest point in 1987 and has reduced somewhat since then, although to levels much larger than before the first team expansions in 1967. Using publicly available information from several databases 1996–2007, the incentives for violence in North American ice hockey are analyzed. We examine the role of penalty minutes and more specifically, fighting, during the regular season in determining wages for professional hockey players and team-level success indicators. There are substantial returns paid not only to goal scoring skills but also to fighting ability, helping teams move higher in the playoffs and showing up as positive wage premia for otherwise observed low-skill wing players. These estimated per-fight premia, depending on fight success ($10,000 to $18,000), are even higher than those for an additional point made. By introducing a “fight fine” of twice the maximum potential gain ($36,000) and adding this amount to salaries paid for the team salary cap (fines would be 6.7% of the team salary cap or the average wage of 2 players), then all involved would have either little or no incentives to allow fighting to continue.
Parent - - By Banned for Life (Gold) Date 2008-06-16 18:18
No doubt you could fine fighting out of existence. The real question is whether there would be any remaining fans after you finished...

Alan
Parent - - By Vasik Rajlich (Silver) [hu] Date 2008-06-18 08:43
They should be fining non-fighting - things like ignoring insults & other provocations, letting the other team celebrate.

Vas
Parent - By Banned for Life (Gold) Date 2008-06-18 08:47
:-D
Parent - - By BB (****) [gb] Date 2008-06-18 12:20 Edited 2008-06-18 12:24

>No doubt you could fine fighting out of existence. The real question is whether there would be any remaining fans after you finished...


Yes, I agree that this would have been the more interesting economic analysis - advertising revenue versus fights. You can interpret the paper's conclusion as not really a recommendation, but more of an abstract academic factoid (found from curve-fitting). :)
Parent - - By Banned for Life (Gold) Date 2008-06-18 16:15
If they did this analysis (advertising revenue versus fights), you would probably find out that they could make more money by getting rid of the puck! :-)

Alan
Parent - - By Sesse (****) [us] Date 2008-06-19 03:34
Isn't that called boxing or wrestling?

/* Steinar */
Parent - By Banned for Life (Gold) Date 2008-06-19 03:36
Do they use hockey sticks in either of those? Well, I guess in professional wrestling, just about anything goes, but at least in hockey, the fights aren't fixed!

Alan
Parent - - By onursurme (***) [tr] Date 2008-06-18 21:48
We won the game against Czechs in endgame, not at middlegame :)
Parent - - By Roland Rösler (****) [de] Date 2008-06-19 00:00
To win in endgame is the very best! :-)
Parent - - By Felix Kling (Gold) [de] Date 2008-06-19 12:32
Well, the dutch team is too strong for the Turkey. I predict that the ranking will be:
1. Netherlands
2. Portugal

So goodbye Germany today :) (I'm just guessing from what I've seen- the german team didn't play well in the last games)
Parent - - By Roland Rösler (****) [de] Date 2008-06-19 12:42
Maybe you are right, but I´m glad that we have to play "only" Portugal and not Russia like the Netherlands. :-)
Parent - - By Vasik Rajlich (Silver) [hu] Date 2008-06-22 07:59
Fans typically overreact to one bad game. I bet that Portugal was quite annoyed with this pairing.

Vas
Parent - By Felix Kling (Gold) [de] Date 2008-06-22 09:15
well, there were three bad games by the german team, so... :)

Anyway, if the german team continues playing like this, the chances to become the european champion are quite good.

Seems like the Netherlands concentrated too much on the first three games.
Parent - By onursurme (***) [tr] Date 2008-06-20 23:08
Another icredible endgame win at the very last second ( with a goal at the 121th moment ) against Croatia !
It was just after Croatians scored the first goal of the match at 120th moment :)
Refree didn't allow for a kick-off after our goal, because the time was expired when the ball touched the net of Croatians.
At the end, we get to the tablebases phase (penalties).

Commentators say that the nature of these 2 consecutive games ( vs Czechs and vs Croatians ) are both very rare individually in football history, and so playing 2 of them consecutively is exponentially rare. Now Germans have a statistical reason to afraid from us.

In the match against Germany, opponent will be very stressfull at the very last moments of the match, afraiding of having the same faith.

(Normally, I'm very uninterested in football. I'm one of the very rare males in Turkey who doesn't watch/follow football. But if something is very strange/rare, no matter what the subject is, it is in my interest)
Parent - By noctiferus (***) [it] Date 2008-05-12 20:12
Puskas, Hidegkuti, Csibor, Grosics.
GREAT.
Parent - - By Roland Rösler (****) [de] Date 2008-05-08 23:51
He Nelson, we all know, that EVERYONE but you have Rybka 3 Beta. Maybe you have to train your lips :-).
Parent - By Nelson Hernandez (Silver) [us] Date 2008-05-09 11:19
It's a conspiracy!
Parent - - By kosulin (*) [us] Date 2008-05-08 17:56
KISS means "keep it simple, stupid".
Parent - - By Roland Rösler (****) [de] Date 2008-05-08 23:44
Many thanks! I know KIS and was searching for the second "s" (stupid).
PS: I´m a little bit disappointed. Simple is never stupid!
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