Topic Rybka Support & Discussion / Rybka Discussion / $3,700 for a computer? Recommendation for non rich people? (1363 hits)
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I just read a post from a guy wanting to spend $3,700 on a new computer...
My gosh! you guys must be rich. $3,700 for a computer. I didn't get half that when I traded in my last car at the dealership! I'm considering building a core2 quad for around $600.
How about a recommendation on which is better: athlonx64, amd quad core, core2 duo, core2 quad, or xeon. And I'm probably not spending over $400 on the cpu/motherboard combo, unless double the performance for $100 more.
I want something better because today I analyzed a position with rybka 2.3 32bit under the fritz interface using "infinite analysis" and it recommended one move for 8 minutes, then switched to another for the next 40 minutes then changed to the final move after that. I don't want to tell my son (national champion kindergarten a few years ago) that Rybka recommends this move...then it be the wrong move if I didn't let Rybka think long enough.
Thanks for your help.
My gosh! you guys must be rich. $3,700 for a computer. I didn't get half that when I traded in my last car at the dealership! I'm considering building a core2 quad for around $600.
How about a recommendation on which is better: athlonx64, amd quad core, core2 duo, core2 quad, or xeon. And I'm probably not spending over $400 on the cpu/motherboard combo, unless double the performance for $100 more.
I want something better because today I analyzed a position with rybka 2.3 32bit under the fritz interface using "infinite analysis" and it recommended one move for 8 minutes, then switched to another for the next 40 minutes then changed to the final move after that. I don't want to tell my son (national champion kindergarten a few years ago) that Rybka recommends this move...then it be the wrong move if I didn't let Rybka think long enough.
Thanks for your help.
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> How about a recommendation
This is not a recommendation, but an anecdote. I recently got a AMD PHENOM system for about $1100 (Australian). I got the CPU (2.2Ghz 9500) for $245, 19-inch Viewsonic monitor for $280, ASUS M3A motherboard for $120, 2x2GB 800Mhz DDR2 memory for $118, 500MB hard drive for $130, case for $60, keyboard/mouse for $10, assembly $40, video card and DVD drive both $50. My guess is that an Intel system (Q6600-based) should be a bit better in performance/price, especially if you are into overclocking.
Office Depot was recently selling a full Phenom system (sans monitor) for $699 (USD). It had either 3 or 4 GM of RAM and a similar hard drive to what you have.
> Office Depot was recently selling a full Phenom system (sans monitor) for $699 (USD).
This sounds about right. The Aussie company had an A$869 "Gamer System" w/o monitor, but with a more spendy video card, etc., so USD700 is a reasonable translation.
Just noticed a Fritzmark of 5443 Kn/s for a 2.3 Ghz Phenom 9600. Still much lower (25%) than the 2.4Ghz Q6600 which is at 7283 Kn/s.
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Maybe a Quad 6600? It´s easy to overclock and the price is good.
My computer have a Quad 6600 processor.
In the year 1992 I buyed a top line, a Pentium 33Mgz for U$4000,00,
and if a have the money I will buy a Skulltrail, I am a fanatic
by speed for engines.
Congratulations for your son.
Paulo Soares
My computer have a Quad 6600 processor.
In the year 1992 I buyed a top line, a Pentium 33Mgz for U$4000,00,
and if a have the money I will buy a Skulltrail, I am a fanatic
by speed for engines.
Congratulations for your son.
Paulo Soares
Thank you guys, and Paolo for mentioning my son. Every parent enjoys that. I've heard prices may come down some in April, so that's when I will build it. Reusing old hard drives and optical drives. Only need to buy cpu/motherboard, ram, video card, case, power supply.
Dave
Dave
Congratulations to your son. Of course, you should be using Rybka 2.3.2a 32-bit, which is about 50 elo stronger than Rybka 2.3 32-bit. Also, try using the Deep Position Analysis feature if your GUI has it--in your case, perhaps have the first branching factor of 3, the second 2, the third 2, and the fourth 1, the length of variations at 10, the average time per move at 120 seconds (root at whatever, but might as well make it 300 seconds or so just to get good ordering and move selection early; the 300 seconds is only used once). This will take a total of roughly four hours and will give you a very good idea of what is going on in the position: which move is best and a good idea of a continuation to follow.
turbojuice, I haven't tried that before, I'll give it a shot.
Thank you,
Dave
Thank you,
Dave
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> I want something better because today I analyzed a position with rybka 2.3 32bit under the fritz interface using "infinite analysis" and it recommended one move for 8 minutes, then switched to another for the next 40 minutes then changed to the final move after that.
In light of this, you should also realise that in quite somepostions Rybka dosn't within sometimes very long time... That goes for other programs too, and infact some people have a single postion analysis for days on fast hardware, and still there's nothing new on the monitor ;)
... and maybe there's no reason there should be!?
Reading through this forum you'll get an impression why a different bunch of issues exists, like the differences between human play and the strongest engines...
Also why some people find a reaon why to use strong hardware, and it's clear that "normal" is good enough, etc. for this and that task.
I could go on, but from your post, it dosn't sound like you need new hardware so very seriously for Rybka. Employ a bit of time into the position yourself, and if you can't explain why Rybka should be wrong, the it must fine, and then... Well, it's not clear why your son should judge Rybka, nor your comp!??
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