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- By MrKris (***) Date 2020-05-19 07:57
Some early rating results thanks to the quick response from the testers.

Komodo 14 gained a few Elo but still in the +/- to 13.3:
http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforum/topic_show.pl?tid=33517
CEGT Blitz: 72 Komodo 14.0 x64 1CPU: 3375 - 1500 games (+8 to v. 13.3)
but at the site http://www.cegt.net/40_4_Ratinglist/40_4_AllVersion/rangliste.html
72 Komodo 14.0 x64 1CPU 3375 +15 -15  1500 games
79 Komodo 13.3 x64 1CPU 3367 +10 -10  3300 games

http://www.cegt.net/40_4_Ratinglist/40_4_AllVersion/72.html
72 Komodo 14.0 x64 1CPU +5 =118 -77 to 16 Stockfish 11.0 x64 1CPU {15.4 loses per win}

Komodo -1 Elo to 13.2, same as 13.3, 2 above 13.1 - all within the error range:
http://www.fastgm.de/60-0.60.html
Complete list: May 18, 2020  
                        rating error games
9    Komodo 13.2 64-bit   3356   6   28750
10   Komodo 14 64-bit     3355   7   16000
11   Komodo 13.3 64-bit   3355   6   28250
12   Komodo 13.1 64-bit   3353   7   23000

- - By MrKris (***) Date 2020-05-24 20:10
CCRL Blitz Complete - May 23, 2020
http://ccrl.chessdom.com/ccrl/404/rating_list_all.html
...
7 Komodo 13.3 64-bit 4CPU   3525   +15   −15   50.3%    −2.1   61.6%   1306
55.5% Likelyhood Of Superiority to:
  Komodo 14 64-bit 4CPU     3524   +15   −15   52.3%   −16.5   60.5%   1338
...
Parent - - By Fulcrum2000 (****) Date 2020-05-24 20:20 Upvotes 1
Ouch...
Parent - - By MrKris (***) Date 2020-05-26 10:27
I happened to see this at https://www.twitch.tv/navratil25
as of now 156 games of 180 played
19.0/31 Lc0-Ls 14.3
other NN's
17.0/31 Stockfish
12.0/31 Komodo 13.3
11.5/31 Ethereal 12.11
others


Here both Stockfish and Komodo had pointless pawn give-aways in their PV's for the position from Leelenstein-Komodo at Twitch:
both 7.b4 giving it away, but in different positions although both at move 7. ?! !?
[Event "8-threads each"]
[Site "R7 2700X , Sy.6"]
[Date "2020.05.26"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Ko 13.3 and Sf 200502"]
[Black "PV's @ 4 mins. analysis"]
[Result "*"]
[BlackElo "2400"]
[Time "01:43:28"]
[WhiteElo "2400"]
[TimeControl "0+6"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "2B5/8/1p3k1p/p3b1pP/P7/1P4P1/5P2/5K2 w - - 0 1"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "26"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "human"]

{--Twitch Lc0-Ls 14.3: 0.01, 2 x RTX 2070, white Ko 13.3: 0.53, i9
32 threads--} 1. Ke2 {Here Ko 13.3: 0.51, Sf: 0.41.}
Bd4 2. g4 {<<Ko} (2. Kd3 {<<Sf} Ke5 3. g4 Bc5 4. f3 Kf4 5. Kc4 Ke5 6. Kb5 Kd6
7. b4 {pawn give-away} axb4 8. Kc4 Kc6 9. Ba6 Kd6 10. Bb7 Kc7 11. Bd5 Kd6
12. Be4 Be3 {pawn give-away returned} 13. Kxb4 Bf2) 2. .. Ke5 3. Kd3 Bc5 4.
f3 Kf4 5. Bb7 Bf2 6. Be4 Bc5 7. b4 {pawn give-away} Bf2 {declined} 8. Kc4
Ke5 9. bxa5 bxa5 10. Kb5 Be1 11. Bd3 Kf4 12. Kc6 {pawn give away} Ke5
{declined} 13. Be4 Bf2 *
FEN: 8/8/2K4p/p3k1pP/P5P1/3B1P2/8/4b3 w - - 6 13 
Stockfish_20050217: Found 510 tablebases
  1/1  00:00            60  30k  +0.07  1.Bg4
  2/2  00:00           235  118k  +0.53  1.Bg4 Ba1
  3/3  00:00            2k  813k  +0.59  1.Bg4 Ba1 2.Be2
  4/4  00:00           98k  12,304k  +0.40  1.Bg4 Bd6 2.Kg2 Bb4
  5/5  00:00          102k  12,708k  +0.37  1.Kg2 Bd6 2.Kf3 Bb4 3.Ke2
  6/6  00:00          103k  12,865k  +0.35  1.Kg2 Bd6 2.Kf3 Bb4 3.Bd7 Bc5
  7/11  00:00          110k  13,786k  +0.52  1.Kg2 Bd6 2.Kf3 Bb4 3.Kg4 Bd6
  8/10  00:00          121k  13,457k  +0.39  1.Kg2 Bd6 2.f3 Ke5 3.Bb7 Kd4 4.Be4 Kc3 5.Bd5
  9/14  00:00          144k  14,372k  +0.48  1.Kg2 Bd6 2.f3 Ke5 3.Kh3 Kd4 4.Bg4 Ke3
 10/14  00:00          186k  16,920k  +0.43  1.Kg2 Bd6 2.Kh3 Bc5 3.f3 Ke5 4.Kg4 Bb4 5.Ba6 Bc5 6.Bc4
 11/17  00:00          212k  17,700k  +0.47  1.Kg2 Bd6 2.Kh3 Bc5 3.f3 Bd6 4.Bd7 Ke5 5.Bc6 Kd4 6.Kg4 Bb4 7.Be4 Kc3 8.Bd5 Kd4
 12/15  00:00          241k  18,507k  +0.49  1.Kg2 Bd6 2.Kh3 Bc5 3.f3 Bd6 4.Ba6 Ke5 5.Kg4 Kd4 6.Kf5 Bxg3 7.Kg6 Kc3 8.Kxh6
 13/19  00:00          304k  17,875k  +0.51  1.Kg2 Bc3 2.Kh3 Ke5 3.Kg4 Bb4 4.Bb7 Bd6 5.Ba6 Bc5 6.f3 Kd4 7.Kf5 Ke3
 14/18  00:00          335k  17,613k  +0.47  1.Kg2 Bc3 2.Kh3 Ke5 3.Kg4 Bb4 4.f3 Bd6 5.Bf5 Be7 6.f4+ Kd4 7.fxg5 Bxg5 8.Bg6 Kc3
 15/22  00:00          438k  16,209k  +0.49  1.Kg2 Bc3 2.Kh3 Ke5 3.f3 Bb4 4.Kg4 Be7 5.Bb7 Bb4 6.Be4 Bd6 7.Bc6 Ba3 8.Bb5 Bc5
 16/26  00:00          514k  17,716k  +0.39  1.Kg2 Bd6 2.Kh3 Ke5 3.Kg4 Bf8 4.Ba6 Bb4 5.Bb5 Bc5 6.f3 Bd6 7.Ba6 Bc5 8.Kh3 Bd6
 17/20  00:00          707k  18,609k  +0.39  1.Kg2 Bc3 2.Kh3 Ke5 3.f3 Bb4 4.Kg4 Be7 5.Bd7 Bd6 6.Bb5 Bc5 7.Ba6 Bd6 8.Bd3 Kd4 9.Bc4 Ke5
 18/25  00:00          775k  18,906k  +0.48  1.Kg2 Bd6 2.Kh3 Ke5 3.Kg4 Bc5 4.f3 Bb4 5.Ba6 Bd6 6.Bd3 Bc5 7.Bf5 Be7 8.f4+ gxf4 9.gxf4+ Kd4 10.Kf3 Bb4 11.Bg6
 19/23  00:00          863k  19,186k  +0.48  1.Kg2 Bd6 2.Kh3 Ke5 3.Kg4 Bc5 4.f3 Bb4 5.Ba6 Bd6 6.Bb7 Bb4 7.Bc6 Bd6 8.f4+ gxf4 9.gxf4+ Kd4 10.Kf3 Bf8 11.Bd7 Bb4 12.Be8
 20/32  00:00        1,028k  19,390k  +0.46  1.Kg2 Bd6 2.Kh3 Ke5 3.Kg4 Bc5 4.f3 Bb4 5.Bd7 Bd6 6.Bf5 Kd4 7.Bc8 Ke5 8.Bd7 Be7 9.Bc6 Bb4 10.f4+ gxf4 11.gxf4+ Kd4 12.Kf3 Kc3
 21/29  00:00        1,161k  19,673k  +0.38  1.Kg2 Bd6 2.Kh3 Ke5 3.Kg4 Bc5 4.f3 Bb4 5.Bb7 Ba3 6.f4+ gxf4 7.gxf4+ Kd4 8.Kf3 Bb4 9.Bc8 Bd6 10.Be6 Be7 11.Bc4 Bc5 12.Ba6 Bb4 13.Bb5
 22/27  00:00        1,323k  19,747k  +0.29  1.Kg2 Bd6 2.Kh3 Ke5 3.Kg4 Bc5 4.f3 Bb4 5.Bb7 Ba3 6.f4+ gxf4 7.gxf4+ Kd4 8.Kf3 Bb4 9.Bc6 Be7 10.Bd7 Bb4 11.Bh3 Be7 12.Bc8 Bd6 13.Ba6 Be7 14.Be2 Bb4 15.Bc4
 23/32  00:00        2,396k  18,017k  +0.28  1.Kg2 Bd6 2.Kh3 Ke5 3.Kg4 Bc5 4.f3 Bd6 5.Bd7 Kd4 6.Kf5 Bxg3 7.Kg6 g4 8.Bxg4 Bf4 9.Kf5 Bc7 10.Ke6 Kc5 11.Bf5 Kb4 12.Kd7 Be5 13.Be6 Bd4 14.Kc6
 24/40  00:00        3,415k  16,990k  +0.15  1.Kg2 Bd6 2.f3 Ke5 3.Kh3 Kd4 4.Kg4 Ke3 5.Kf5 Bxg3 6.Kg6 g4 7.Bxg4 Bf4 8.Kf5 Bc7 9.Ke6 Bg3 10.Kd7 Bf2 11.Kd6 Kf4 12.Ke7 Ke5 13.Kf8 Bh4 14.Kg7 Bg5 15.Bd7
 25/39  00:00        4,014k  17,153k  +0.13  1.Kg2 Bd6 2.f3 Ke5 3.Kh3 Kd5 4.Kg4 Ke5 5.Bd7 Kd4 6.Kf5 Bxg3 7.Kg6 g4 8.Bxg4 Bf4 9.Bd7 Ke5 10.Bf5 Bg5 11.Be4 Be3 12.Kf7 Bg5 13.Ke8 Ke6 14.Bc6 Be3 15.Kd8 Kf5 16.Bb7 Kg5 17.Kc7 Kf4
 26/41  00:00        4,412k  16,968k  +0.11  1.Kg2 Bd6 2.Kh3 Ke5 3.Kg4 Bc5 4.f3 Bd6 5.Bd7 Kd4 6.Kf5 Bxg3 7.Kg6 g4 8.Bxg4 Bf4 9.Bd7 Ke5 10.Bf5 Bg5 11.Be4 Be3 12.Kf7 Bg5 13.Ke8 Be3 14.Ke7 Bg5+ 15.Kd7 Be3 16.Ke8 Kf4 17.Ke7 Ke5 18.Bb7 Bc5+ 19.Kd7 Kf5 20.Be4+ Kg5 21.Ke6
 27/35  00:00        4,825k  16,810k  +0.11  1.Kg2 Bd6 2.Kh3 Ke5 3.Kg4 Bc5 4.f3 Bd6 5.Bd7 Kd4 6.Kf5 Bxg3 7.Kg6 g4 8.Bxg4 Bf4 9.Bd7 Ke5 10.Kf7 Kd6 11.Bf5 Bg5 12.Kg6 Ke5 13.Be4 Be3 14.Kf7 Bg5 15.Bb7 Be3 16.Bc6 Bg5 17.Ke8
 28/43  00:00        5,414k  16,763k  +0.07  1.Kg2 Bd6 2.Kh3 Ke5 3.Kg4 Bc5 4.f3 Bd6 5.Bd7 Kd4 6.Kf5 Bxg3 7.Kg6 g4 8.Bxg4 Bf4 9.Bd7 Ke5 10.Kf7 Bg5 11.Bc6 Bf4 12.Bb7 Bg5 13.Kg6 Bf4 14.Ba8 Be3 15.Be4 Bg5 16.Bc6 Bf4 17.Bd7 Bg5 18.Bg4 Kf4 19.Kf7 Bh4 20.Ke6 Bg3 21.Kd6 Be1
 29/39  00:00        5,786k  16,819k  +0.07  1.Kg2 Bd6 2.Kh3 Ke5 3.Kg4 Bc5 4.f3 Bd6 5.Bd7 Kd4 6.Kf5 Bxg3 7.Kg6 g4 8.Bxg4 Bf4 9.Bd7 Ke5 10.Kf7 Bg5 11.Bc6 Bf4 12.Bb7 Bg5 13.Be4 Be3 14.Kg6 Bg5 15.Bc6 Bf4 16.Bd7 Bg5 17.Bg4 Kf4 18.Kf7 Bh4 19.Ke6 Bg3 20.Kd6
 30/44  00:00       13,039k  16,934k  +0.49  1.g4 Bd6 2.Ke2 Ke5 3.Kd3 Bc5 4.f3 Kf4 5.Bb7 Bf2 6.Bc6 Bc5 7.Be4 Ke5 8.Bf5 Bd6 9.Bc8 Kd5 10.Bb7+ Ke5 11.Kc4 Bc5 12.Bc8 Bd4 13.Kb5 Bf2 14.Bb7 Kd6 15.b4 axb4 16.Kxb4 Ke5
 31/40  00:00       14,742k  17,242k  +0.41  1.g4 Bd6 2.Ke2 Ke5 3.Kd3 Bc5 4.f3 Bf2 5.Bf5 Bc5 6.Kc4 Be3 7.Kb5 Kd6 8.b4 axb4 9.Kxb4 Bc5+ 10.Kc4 Bf2 11.Bc8 Kc7 12.Be6 Kd6 13.Bf5 Ke5 14.Kb4 Kf4 15.Be4 Ke5 16.Kb5 Kd6 17.Bb7 Be3 18.Kc4 Ke5
...
 85/91  04:13    4,413,627k  17,400k  +0.41  1.Ke2 Bd6 2.Kd3 Ke5 3.g4 Bc5 4.f3 Kf4 5.Kc4 Ke5 6.Kb5 Kd6 7.b4 axb4 8.Kc4 Kc6 9.Ba6 Kd6 10.Bb7 Kc7 11.Bd5 Kd6 12.Be4 Be3 13.Kxb4 Bf2 14.Kc4 Be3 15.Kc3 Bc5 16.Kb3 Ke5 17.Kc4 Bd4 18.Kb5 Kd6 19.Bd3 Kd5 20.Bc4+ Kd6 21.Bb3 Be3 22.Kc4 Bg1 23.Kd3 Ke5 24.Bf7 Bf2 25.Be8 Kf4 26.Bc6 Ke5 27.Bd7 Bd4 28.Kc4 Bf2 29.Bb5 Ke6 30.Bc6 Bc5 31.Be4 Be3 32.Kb4 Ke5 33.Kb5 Kd6 34.Bd3 Bf2 35.Kc4 Ke5 36.Bg6 Be3 37.Kb3 Kf4 38.Bf5 Bd4 39.Kc4 Ke5 40.Kb5 Kd6 41.Bc8 Bf2 42.Kc4 Ke5 43.Kb4 Bc5+ 44.Kc3 Bf2

Komodo-13.3: Found 510 WDL and 510 DTZ tablebase files (up to 6-man).
   1  00:00           12k  588k  -0.36  1.f3 Bxg3
   1  00:00           12k  589k  +0.23  1.g4
   1  00:00           12k  590k  +0.26  1.Bh3 Bd4
   1  00:00           12k  591k  +0.40  1.Bg4 Bd4
   1  00:00           12k  592k  +0.42  1.Bd7
   1  00:00           12k  593k  +0.46  1.Ke2
   2  00:00           12k  596k  +0.46  1.Ke2 Bd4
   3  00:00           12k  605k  +0.48  1.Ke2 Bd4 2.Bd7 Ke5
   4  00:00           12k  614k  +0.48  1.Ke2 Bd4 2.Bd7 Ke5
   5-  00:00           12k  624k  +0.40  1.Ke2 Bd4
   5+  00:00           18k  779k  +0.45  1.Ke2 Bc3 2.Ke3
   5  00:00           18k  786k  +0.41  1.Ke2 Bd4 2.Bd7 Ke5 3.Be8
   6  00:00           27k  902k  +0.38  1.Ke2 Bd6 2.Bd7 Ke5 3.Ke3 Bc5+ 4.Ke2 Kd4
   7  00:00           28k  915k  +0.34  1.Ke2 Bd4 2.Bd7 Ke5 3.Bh3 Bc5 4.Bg2
   8  00:00           33k  956k  +0.33  1.Ke2 Bd6 2.Bd7 Ke5 3.Bb5 Bc5 4.Bc6 Bb4
   9-  00:00           73k  1,266k  +0.25  1.Ke2 Bd6
   9  00:00           77k  1,268k  +0.22  1.Ke2 Bd6 2.Ba6 Ke5 3.Bc4 Ke4 4.Bd3+ Ke5 5.Bg6 Kd4 6.Bf5
  10-  00:00          111k  1,392k  +0.15  1.Ke2 Bd6
  10+  00:00          141k  1,572k  +0.29  1.Kg2 Bd6 2.Kh3
  10+  00:00          166k  1,692k  +0.38  1.Kg2 Bd6 2.Kh3
  10  00:00          192k  1,850k  +0.42  1.Kg2 Bd6 2.Kh3 Ke5 3.Kg4 Bc5 4.f3 Bd6 5.f4+ gxf4 6.gxf4+ Kd4 7.Be6
  11  00:00          280k  2,313k  +0.48  1.Kg2 Bd6 2.Kh3 Ke5 3.Kg4 Bc5 4.f3 Bd6 5.f4+ gxf4 6.gxf4+ Ke4 7.Bb7+ Kd4 8.Bc6 Kc5 9.Bb5 Kb4
  12-  00:00          291k  2,363k  +0.41  1.Kg2 Bd6
  12  00:00          304k  2,428k  +0.39  1.Kg2 Bd6 2.Kh3 Ke5 3.Kg4 Bb4 4.Bf5 Bc5 5.f3 Bd6 6.Bd7 Kd4 7.Be6 Ke5 8.Bf7
  13  00:00          348k  2,639k  +0.37  1.Kg2 Bd6 2.Kh3 Ke5 3.Kg4 Bc5 4.f4+ gxf4 5.gxf4+ Ke4 6.Bf5+ Kd4 7.Kf3 Bd6 8.Bd7 Bb4 9.Be6 Bd6 10.f5 Ke5
  14  00:00          407k  2,869k  +0.37  1.Kg2 Bd6 2.Kh3 Ke5 3.Kg4 Bb4 4.Bf5 Bc5 5.f3 Bd6 6.Bc8 Bb4 7.Bd7 Bd6 8.Bc6 Bc5 9.f4+ gxf4
  15  00:00          415k  2,901k  +0.37  1.Kg2 Bd6 2.Kh3 Ke5 3.Kg4 Bb4 4.Bf5 Bc5 5.f3 Bd6 6.Bd7 Kd4 7.Be6 Ke5 8.Bc8 Kd4 9.Bd7
  16  00:00          424k  2,967k  +0.37  1.Kg2 Bd6 2.Kh3 Ke5 3.Kg4 Bb4 4.Bf5 Bc5 5.f3 Bd6 6.Bd7 Kd4 7.Be6 Ke5 8.Bc8 Kd4 9.Bd7 Ke5
  17  00:00          451k  3,070k  +0.37  1.Kg2 Bd6 2.Kh3 Ke5 3.Kg4 Bb4 4.Bf5 Bc5 5.f3 Bd6 6.Bd7 Kd4 7.Be6 Ke5 8.Bc8 Bb4 9.Bb7 Bc5 10.Bc8
  18  00:00          702k  4,032k  +0.36  1.Kg2 Bd6 2.Kh3 Ke5 3.Kg4 Bc5 4.f3 Bd6 5.Bf5 Bb4 6.Be4 Bd6 7.Bd3 Bb4 8.Bf5 Bc5 9.Bd7 Bb4 10.Bb5 Bd6
  19  00:00          959k  4,891k  +0.36  1.Kg2 Bd6 2.Kh3 Ke5 3.Kg4 Bc5 4.f3 Bd6 5.Bf5 Bb4 6.Be4 Bd6 7.Bd3 Bb4 8.Bf5 Bc5 9.Bd7 Bb4 10.Bb5 Bc5 11.Bc4
  19  00:00          991k  4,954k  +0.38  1.Ke2 Bd6 2.Kd3 Ke5 3.f3 Bc5 4.g4 Kf4 5.Bb7 Bf2 6.Kc4 Bc5 7.Be4 Ke5 8.Ba8 Bb4 9.Kb5 Bc5 10.Bb7 Kf4 11.Bc6 Be3
  20  00:00        1,017k  5,033k  +0.38  1.Ke2 Bd6 2.Kd3 Ke5 3.f3 Bc5 4.g4 Kf4 5.Bb7 Bf2 6.Kc4 Be3 7.Be4 Ke5 8.Ba8 Kf4 9.Bd5 Ke5 10.Be4 Bc5 11.Ba8 Kf4 12.Be4
...
  68  03:31    3,092,773k  14,653k  +0.51  1.Ke2 Bd6 2.g4 Ke5 3.Kd3 Bc5 4.f3 Kf4 5.Bb7 Bf2 6.Be4 Bc5 7.b4 Bf2 8.Kc4 Ke5 9.bxa5 bxa5 10.Kb5 Be1 11.Bd3 Kf4 12.Kc6 Ke5 13.Be4 Bf2 14.Kd7 Bc5 15.Bf5 Bb4 16.Bc2 Kf6 17.Bg6 Ke5 18.Bd3 Bc5 19.Be4 Bb4 20.Kc6 Be1 21.Kc7 Bc3 22.Bf5 Bb4 23.Kd7 Kf6 24.Ke8 Bd6 25.Bd3 Bb4 26.Be4 Bc5 27.Bg6 Bb4 28.Bd3 Bc5 29.Bb5 Bb4 30.Kd7 Ke5 31.Bc6 Bc5 32.Bb7
{no new line @ 04:13 'Analyze' off}
Parent - - By Fulcrum2000 (****) Date 2020-05-26 15:46
Giving away the pawn does not change the outcome of the game, so for the engine is just another move.
Parent - By MrKris (***) Date 2020-05-26 20:09

> for the engine is just another move.


Both 'different' engines uselessly giving away the same pawn the same moves ahead (though in different positions).

Its just ?? to give it away instead of hoping for an opponent blunder as long as they are playing out a hopelessly drawn position.

Very interesting that Komodo and Stockfish both have the same utter nonsense give away first 'strategy' at all, and both the same pawn etc.
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