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- - By Uly (Gold) Date 2020-02-02 20:10
(N stands for IV - 4)

Thanks for accepting my challenge, I have this highly scoring line in the Sicilian and tried it against some guy on the ICCF, but they played the white side so weakly that I couldn't gather anything from it. Let's see if I can play it here, unless you have some crazy white plan prepared for this!

1. e4 c5

rnbqkbnr/pp1ppppp/8/2p5/4P3/8/PPPP1PPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq -


Good luck!
Parent - - By witchesbutt (***) Date 2020-02-03 23:56
:cool:

1. e4 c5 2. Be2

:eek::grin:

I think you have this covered .. :roll::twisted:
The best to you.
Parent - By Uly (Gold) Date 2020-02-04 07:00

> I think you have this covered .. :roll::twisted:


Well, not really. I have extensive analysis of 1.e4 c5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Be2 and 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Be2, which could transpose, but I feel in the dark, so let me check...
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2020-02-05 11:09
This looks like my best chance...

1. e4 c5 2. Be2 g6

rnbqkbnr/pp1ppp1p/6p1/2p5/4P3/8/PPPPBPPP/RNBQK1NR w KQkq -
Parent - - By witchesbutt (***) Date 2020-02-05 15:07
:evil:

1. e4 c5 2. Be2 g6 3. d4 *

I've used Be2 in two of my currently playing ICCF games and so far it looks good - still in the opening stages.
I'll post games later - have other chores to complete.

The Sicilians are my nemesis (Indians too) and I just cannot play them well enough to even secure a draw .. !!!

:yell::yell::yell:
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2020-02-06 23:49
Very interested in seeing for what position you're aiming, I haven't seen yet one where white has the edge!?

1. e4 c5 2. Be2 g6 3. d4 cxd4

rnbqkbnr/pp1ppp1p/6p1/8/3pP3/8/PPP1BPPP/RNBQK1NR w KQkq -
Parent - By Antares (****) Date 2020-02-07 00:09

> I haven't seen yet one where white has the edge!?


Also wit$hshed he would play like that vs. me. :grin:
Parent - - By witchesbutt (***) Date 2020-02-09 16:29
:cool:

1. e4 c5 2. Be2 g6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nf3 *

Make the best of it Uly - you have an opportunity to demolish me .. if you can .. :grin::lol::mad:
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2020-02-23 22:06
I was going to play against Antares first, but you were much nicer in my absense so here's my move :grin: :

1. e4 c5 2. Be2 g6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nf3 Qa5+

rnb1kbnr/pp1ppp1p/6p1/q7/3pP3/5N2/PPP1BPPP/RNBQK2R w KQkq -
Parent - - By witchesbutt (***) Date 2020-02-26 20:54
:cool:

1. e4 c5 2. Be2 g6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nf3 Qa5+ 5. c3 *

Oops - apologies - I did miss it so to speak.
Responded, wrote it down and got transfixed with Antares's love life with the hippos so forgot.
Parent - - By Antares (****) Date 2020-02-26 21:57

> Antares's love life


One moment! That perfectly vert green-tea soakaway lets you wait two weeks for his 4th move, comes to my game thread whining about you ignoring him 3/14th=21% of that time, and now my biological interest in big animals -being myself one- is guilty for that? :mad:
Parent - - By witchesbutt (***) Date 2020-02-26 22:48
:cool:

Man you're damn good-looking when you're mad .. :eek::lol:
Not surprised that the hippos are head over hills in love with such a handsome dude .. :twisted::lol:

Parent - - By Antares (****) Date 2020-02-26 22:59 Edited 2020-02-26 23:24

> Not surprised that the hippos are head over hills in love with such a handsome dude .. :twisted::lol:


Now you have forfeited it forever...

and i will never share some good jokes with you
(What diversifies a woman from a hippo?
One has a big mouth plus fat ass and the other lives in Africa)

nor Uly's first loves


and especially not what i found on Ulyleaks.
-CENSORED-
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2020-02-26 23:06

> and especially not what i found on Ulyleaks.


Is that you Antares? I don't know why Ulyleaks has pictures of what you should be doing in private, but what do I know??
Parent - - By Antares (****) Date 2020-02-26 23:12

> I don't know why Ulyleaks has pictures of


Due a bug? :yell:

:yell::yell:
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2020-02-26 23:22
I hope the bug is fixed, nobody wants to see your private activities with animals in any Leaks site!
Parent - - By witchesbutt (***) Date 2020-02-26 23:59
:cool::eek::lol:

Quite right Antares - Uly is 100% correct - please make public your private activities - inquiring minds want to know.

:razz::red:

Antares ..  you got da moves man .. :lol::lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=1_6_9j6Xmvc
Parent - - By Antares (****) Date 2020-02-27 00:13
I only concede that i have a very! big corona, while you two should be definitely checked - for the safety of human+hippo race... i can diagnost by you guys symptoms (especially: buggy delusions) already easily from here!

Parent - By Uly (Gold) Date 2020-02-27 00:46
Overcompensating much? :lol:
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2020-02-26 22:58
The most hilarious thing is that you still don't deny that you're into hippos! :yell:
Parent - By witchesbutt (***) Date 2020-02-27 00:07
:cool:

Uly :

You sly young dog you .. :eek::lol:
What a partnership - what a team .. :lol::lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbC6cDOLyz8
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2020-02-27 00:47

> got transfixed with Antares's love life with the hippos so forgot.


The good news is human women will be happy as he finally stops molesting them, since he goes for the hippos! :yell:

1. e4 c5 2. Be2 g6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nf3 Qa5+ 5. c3 dxc3

rnb1kbnr/pp1ppp1p/6p1/q7/4P3/2p2N2/PP2BPPP/RNBQK2R w KQkq -
Parent - - By witchesbutt (***) Date 2020-02-27 11:06
:cool:

1. e4 c5 2. Be2 g6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nf3 Qa5+ 5. c3 dxc3 6. Nxc3 *

The Yanks decided to bless us with a doozy of a snowstorm from Texas - I really do wish they would keep that crap to themselves or perhaps send it to you guys.
Hey Uly - much snow falls where you are ?

Dear Antares is gonna be quiet for a while pondering on the size of his cojon compared to mine .. :lol::lol::cry:
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2020-02-28 22:50

> Hey Uly - much snow falls where you are ?


None. I pretty much live in the part of my country where it never gets too hot or too cold.

> Dear Antares is gonna be quiet for a while pondering on the size of his cojon compared to mine .. :lol::lol::cry:


Poor Antares, only insecure men worry about sizes! :yell:

1. e4 c5 2. Be2 g6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nf3 Qa5+ 5. c3 dxc3 6. Nxc3 Nc6

r1b1kbnr/pp1ppp1p/2n3p1/q7/4P3/2N2N2/PP2BPPP/R1BQK2R w KQkq -
Parent - - By witchesbutt (***) Date 2020-02-29 00:17
:cool:

After due consideration and malice aforethought ..

1. e4 c5 2. Be2 g6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nf3 Qa5+ 5. c3 dxc3 6. Nxc3 Nc6 7. Bd2 *

Poor Antares is probably getting his willie smacked by his (hippo) girlfriend .. :lol::lol:
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2020-02-29 09:11
It's all fun and giggles until you realize the kind of person he really is...

1. e4 c5 2. Be2 g6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nf3 Qa5+ 5. c3 dxc3 6. Nxc3 Nc6 7. Bd2 Qd8

r1bqkbnr/pp1ppp1p/2n3p1/8/4P3/2N2N2/PP1BBPPP/R2QK2R w KQkq -
Parent - - By witchesbutt (***) Date 2020-02-29 09:52
:cool:

1. e4 c5 2. Be2 g6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nf3 Qa5+ 5. c3 dxc3 6. Nxc3 Nc6 7. Bd2 Qd8 8. Qa4 *

:fat::lol:
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2020-03-02 08:00
Don't count me as a friend of Antares. Some things get broken beyond repair.

1. e4 c5 2. Be2 g6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nf3 Qa5+ 5. c3 dxc3 6. Nxc3 Nc6 7. Bd2 Qd8 8. Qa4 d6

r1bqkbnr/pp2pp1p/2np2p1/8/Q3P3/2N2N2/PP1BBPPP/R3K2R w KQkq -
Parent - - By witchesbutt (***) Date 2020-03-02 11:50
:cool:

1. e4 c5 2. Be2 g6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nf3 Qa5+ 5. c3 dxc3 6. Nxc3 Nc6 7. Bd2 Qd8 8. Qa4 d6 9. b4 *

:lol::evil:
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2020-03-03 00:30
Looks like white got more than enough compensation for the pawn so don't expect anything spectacular from me o_O

1. e4 c5 2. Be2 g6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nf3 Qa5+ 5. c3 dxc3 6. Nxc3 Nc6 7. Bd2 Qd8 8. Qa4 d6 9. b4 Bg7

r1bqk1nr/pp2ppbp/2np2p1/8/QP2P3/2N2N2/P2BBPPP/R3K2R w KQkq -
Parent - - By witchesbutt (***) Date 2020-03-03 08:50
:cool:

Looks like white got more than enough compensation for the pawn so don't expect anything spectacular from me o_O

Are we replaying a game available in any of your databases ?
No game in the ICCF database - havent searched anywhere else yet.
The bubble gum has lost its flavor - not .. :eek::lol::lol:

1. e4 c5 2. Be2 g6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nf3 Qa5+ 5. c3 dxc3 6. Nxc3 Nc6 7. Bd2 Qd8 8. Qa4 d6 9. b4 Bg7 10. Rd1 *
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2020-03-05 00:18

> Are we replaying a game available in any of your databases ?


I haven't checked a database for this game at all, so all my moves have been original.

Back in the day one would be able to summon Nelson Hernandez and ask him about the novelty played on the game and statistics about positions leading up to it, and it was pretty definitive because if two little girls played a game in their backyard, he'd have it.

> The bubble gum has lost its flavor - not .. :eek::lol::lol:


Yeah, I've been impressed by 2.Be2, I guess it's not my territory.

1. e4 c5 2. Be2 g6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nf3 Qa5+ 5. c3 dxc3 6. Nxc3 Nc6 7. Bd2 Qd8 8. Qa4 d6 9. b4 Bg7 10. Rd1 a6

r1bqk1nr/1p2ppbp/p1np2p1/8/QP2P3/2N2N2/P2BBPPP/3RK2R w Kkq -
Parent - - By Ozymandias (****) Date 2020-03-05 06:51

>if two little girls played a game in their backyard, he'd have it.


IIRC, the girls in question would need to be at least 2000 Elo each.
Parent - By Uly (Gold) Date 2020-03-05 08:15
Strange, I clearly recall once he quoted some random FICS game between some 1200 rated players, and it was noteworthy those patzers were playing moves from +3000 ELO top correspondence chess players from the future. Too lazy to dig it up.
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2020-03-05 08:24
Okay, so the event I'm recalling clearly never happened, but here's this

http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforum/topic_show.pl?pid=370749#pid370749

"Well, yes, I have the big FICS collection, but that database doesn't count"
~Nelson Hernandez

He would have those game, he just doesn't count them.
Parent - - By Ozymandias (****) Date 2020-03-05 12:00
He meant that only a small fraction of those made into his DB, although I'm guessing he also kept the downloaded DB... so "having" games was a relative term.

Not being a game collector, I simply don't keep the original DB, there's no need to differentiate between games I "have" and games I have.
Parent - By Antares (****) Date 2020-03-05 14:40
The advantage of keeping the original DBs(=RAW material) is that you can always create a new game-DB (or in a non-CB format) in case of new wishes or something went wrong/corrupt.

Concerting everything to .PGN is obviously a redundant approach. :grin:

---

And i also hope Senior Nelson will step in here a final time, writing "White with..."... :smile:
Parent - - By Antares (****) Date 2020-03-05 14:42

> if two little girls played a game in their backyard


Sexist!

:wink:
Parent - - By Ozymandias (****) Date 2020-03-05 17:19
Just like nature, no more no less.
Parent - - By Antares (****) Date 2020-03-05 18:21
So true, all that political greencorrect talk makes me sick.
Parent - By Ozymandias (****) Date 2020-03-05 18:41
The first time I became aware of all this "politically correct" problem, was way back in the 80's, with an L.A. Law episode where some clown (I think) was sued for targeting fat people, or midgets or something. As a teen, I thought it was silly, and it's only gotten worse over time. There's always someone wanting to wave a particular flag, and someone with something to gain that'll give them a pedestal so that a bigger audience can be reached.
Parent - - By witchesbutt (***) Date 2020-03-05 22:24
:cool:

What does 'So true, all that political greencorrect talk makes me sick.'
have to do with this thread which is clearly headed

witchesbutt Vs. Vytron N

May I respectfully suggest you take your claptrap to another thread where others of your ilk can bloviate to your hearts content .. :yell::lol:
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2020-03-06 01:33
Thanks witches. The reason I put little girls on the example is that I figured they wouldn't be attacked (imagine if put a guy and a girl in the example and you-know-who asks if they're playing strip chess :eek: .) Hard to talk with perverts around...

By the way, still waiting for your move in case you missed mine :cool:
Parent - By Antares (****) Date 2020-03-06 02:04

> The reason I put little girls on the example is that I figured they wouldn't be attacked


Puh, at least it was not a bug. :lol:
Parent - By Antares (****) Date 2020-03-06 02:08
I sincerely(!) apologize, i thought N explicitely stands for Nonsense, but this might be just limited to Black's opening play.
Parent - - By witchesbutt (***) Date 2020-03-06 10:56
:cool:

I see 'Damir' at TalkChess is saying 2. Bf4 appears to be advantageous for White against the Dutch.
I'll check that this weekend time willing.

1. e4 c5 2. Be2 g6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nf3 Qa5+ 5. c3 dxc3 6. Nxc3 Nc6 7. Bd2 Qd8 8. Qa4 d6 9. b4 Bg7 10. Rd1 a6
11. b5 *

:cool:
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2020-03-08 11:44
1. e4 c5 2. Be2 g6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nf3 Qa5+ 5. c3 dxc3 6. Nxc3 Nc6 7. Bd2 Qd8 8. Qa4 d6 9. b4 Bg7 10. Rd1 a6
11. b5 Na7

r1bqk1nr/np2ppbp/p2p2p1/1P6/Q3P3/2N2N2/P2BBPPP/3RK2R w Kkq -
Parent - - By witchesbutt (***) Date 2020-03-08 15:56
:cool:

1. e4 c5 2. Be2 g6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nf3 Qa5+ 5. c3 dxc3 6. Nxc3 Nc6 7. Bd2 Qd8 8. Qa4 d6 9. b4 Bg7 10. Rd1 a6
11. b5 Na7 12. e5 *
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2020-03-09 09:32
1. e4 c5 2. Be2 g6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nf3 Qa5+ 5. c3 dxc3 6. Nxc3 Nc6 7. Bd2 Qd8 8. Qa4 d6 9. b4 Bg7 10. Rd1 a6
11. b5 Na7 12. e5 Bd7

r2qk1nr/np1bppbp/p2p2p1/1P2P3/Q7/2N2N2/P2BBPPP/3RK2R w Kkq -
Parent - - By witchesbutt (***) Date 2020-03-09 15:10
:cool:

1. e4 c5 2. Be2 g6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nf3 Qa5+ 5. c3 dxc3 6. Nxc3 Nc6 7. Bd2 Qd8 8. Qa4 d6 9. b4 Bg7 10. Rd1 a6
11. b5 Na7 12. e5 Bd7 13. O-O

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