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- - By RSeanOConnell (**) Date 2020-01-03 07:03
Previously had AQ2014 and just upgraded.  I just noticed that when I stop Idea the dialogue box confirming the stop with the options to minimax, make the project inactive/active, etc. is no longer there.  Is this something they did away with?  Seems pretty obvious and a silly question but I have been having problems so.........
Parent - - By pawnslinger (****) Date 2020-01-03 07:16
I do not know the answer, however I believe the proper way to stop IDeA is to make it inactive first, once the engines have stopped you can minimax or exit the program.  I always do the minimax, but sometimes I forget with no harm done.
Parent - - By RSeanOConnell (**) Date 2020-01-03 07:25
You don't just click on "Stop Idea?"
Parent - - By mattchess (**) Date 2020-01-03 07:47
I still get that option dialog when I go to stop idea and have the "wait for current IDEA tasks to finish" and "Minimax after finish" options checked in AQ2020
Parent - By RSeanOConnell (**) Date 2020-01-03 18:44
I am either losing my mind or was really tired last night.  That window is opening up.
Parent - - By pawnslinger (****) Date 2020-01-03 16:04
No.  I do not do that.  I click the big yellow star to make it inactive first, then wait for the engines to finish.  No program likes to be stopped in the middle, an orderly shutdown is best.
Parent - By RSeanOConnell (**) Date 2020-01-03 18:44
I did it your way and did not get in the endless Minimax/Filling tree loop.  When you do it this way does it still write the results to the tree?
Parent - - By mattchess (**) Date 2020-01-03 19:36
That is what the stop/pause button is for - it allows all engines to finish their tasks, then minimaxes the tree and gives the user control over how that shutdown occurs.  You also have a checkbox to make the project inactive at that point or leave it active.  In my case I leave it active because typically at this point I start exploring lines in sandbox, add lines back to the project, and start it up again.

Appears both methods work - but just wanted to point out that in fact the stop/pause is intended to provide an orderly shutdown.
Parent - - By pawnslinger (****) Date 2020-01-04 00:00
Well, in my version of AQ there is no "pause" button.

The Active/Inactive button is a "per project" button.  The Start/Stop button is a "per IDeA" button.  IDeA may contain more than 1 active project, hence it is the superior button, or the function to be last executed prior to program exit.  Each project should be (in my opinion) individually de-activated prior to such action.

I know the program gives you an opportunity to shutdown the projects en masse, but clearly in the OPs case it DOESN'T give him that choice.  So proper manual control is needed.
Parent - - By mattchess (**) Date 2020-01-04 01:28 Edited 2020-01-04 01:45
Gotcha - had not thought of that.  In my case I rarely run multiple projects simultaneously in IDEA so that had not occurred to me.  If you have multiple projects running and just want to deactivate one then that makes perfect sense.  Does it minimax the tree after deactivation or do you need to do that step?  Thanks for clarifying that.  When you run multiple projects are you able to prioritize which get the most attention - for example allocate % of engine instances?  I'll need to look more closely at that.
Parent - - By pawnslinger (****) Date 2020-01-04 02:46
You must manually select to minimax from the Manage link in the Stage Status pane.  Failure to do this causes no harm that I can tell, but the tree is  not  completely up-to-date until the minimax is done.  If you omit the minimax and restart the project later on, the minimax will eventually be done in the normal course of things.  If you are running multiple projects (as I do often) you can set CPU Usage in the Project Properties dialog.  I think it defaults to 30% if you do nothing.  In my usage, I either want an even split between projects, so I just let them all go to the default (AQ will divide the time as evenly as it can), or I have a primary project and some background projects, in this case I give a high percent to the main project and 5 or so to the others.  In this way, my main project gets lots of attention, and the others fill in the gaps.
Parent - By mattchess (**) Date 2020-01-04 02:57
Thanks - I have generally focused on one project at a time - but this may prove useful - will explore :)
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