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Up Topic Correspondence Chess / Correspondence Chess / Vytron Vs. witchesbutt 1/2-1/2
- - By Uly (Gold) Date 2019-08-21 00:30
Looking at my recent games, I have drawn ALL my games with 1.e4, but have won (or am winning) several with 1.d4. Sicilians and Spanish turn out to be really easy to defend by everyone, but there's some killer lines with 1.d4 that await to be played...

1.d4
Parent - - By witchesbutt (**) Date 2019-08-21 09:22
:cool:

Well you are certainly NOT going to kill moi .. :evil::grin: .. yet.
When my buddy sees my response he will probably have a fit, call me all sorts of names and demand I have a brain transplant .. :twisted:

Take that !!

1..... f5
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2019-08-23 23:50
I estimate that it'd take me 2 months to get my Dutch theory to be at the level of my theory for other alternative moves, so I'm basically jumping blind here.

1. d4 f5 2. Bg5

rnbqkbnr/ppppp1pp/8/5pB1/3P4/8/PPP1PPPP/RN1QKBNR b KQkq -
Parent - - By witchesbutt (**) Date 2019-08-24 11:51
:cool:

h6 would weaken kingside more than I would like .. g6 seems safer .. :eek::evil::fat:
I think the Dutch is perhaps on a par with the English !
I'm going all out for a win here just so you know .. :grin:

2 ..... h6 (it is)

:twisted:

(you never would have guessed I'm a huge fan of emojis)
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2019-08-26 10:37
That's the spirit! You actually got me out of book with move 1, because, for what I can see, there's no theory on the Dutch I can trust! :yell:

This is what corr chess is about, good luck!

1. d4 f5 2. Bg5 h6 3. Bh4

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Parent - - By witchesbutt (**) Date 2019-08-26 14:06
:cool:

3....... g5

Hah thats funny because its about here that my brain goes apoplectic and wonders why I play the Dutch.
Still its served me well as the Indians and Sicilians are still very problematical for me.
Have decided that maybe the Sveshnikov is more me .. :evil::twisted::eek:

Good luck dear Uly !
Parent - - By sarona Date 2019-08-27 23:08
I come over to the Rybka Forum to follow your game and you are playing the Dutch again?  (witchesbutt??? :confused: I won't ask. . . )

I thought I had finally convinced you. Anyway, looking forward to following the game.
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2019-08-28 06:21
Oh, hey sarona! Are you the famous person that helps witchesbutt by telling him what to play in the opening? And if so, do you play corr chess yourself? I think I'd be interesting in playing a match with you.

1. d4 f5 2. Bg5 h6 3. Bh4 g5 4. Bg3

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Parent - - By witchesbutt (**) Date 2019-08-28 22:20
:cool:

4...... Bg7

:cool:

No no no !
Not a good idea to play against sarona - he's deadly .. :grin:
Will give you a severe haircut - you'll probably want to leave town after.

:twisted::mad:
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2019-08-29 22:29

> Not a good idea to play against sarona - he's deadly .. :grin:
> Will give you a severe haircut - you'll probably want to leave town after.


I have only lost two games since 2015. In one it was because of my lack of 6men TBs. On the other I was slowly outplayed on a strategical hell. I'm now curious about how sarona would beat me :lol:

Anyway, Ponder Hit!

1. d4 f5 2. Bg5 h6 3. Bh4 g5 4. Bg3 Bg7 5. e3

rnbqk1nr/ppppp1b1/7p/5pp1/3P4/4P1B1/PPP2PPP/RN1QKBNR b KQkq -
Parent - - By witchesbutt (**) Date 2019-08-30 11:22
:cool:

5..... c5

still in book.

:cool:

So whats your secret ?
On a need to know basis .. of course .. :evil::grin:
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2019-08-31 11:51

>still in book.


Most of the theory I can find for the Dutch was generated before Stockfish 9 was introduced, the first engine that could refute chess theory, so I can't trust it.

>So whats your secret ?


Huh, playing like a coward? Basically if you do nothing and you opponent does nothing, it's a guaranteed draw, so that's a great recipe to avoid losing. That's also a great recipe to get draws against much weaker opponents, so that's why it took me so long to break 2200 elo. Once you push the opponent into having to do something, the weak fall. But the strong rise, which leads to game losing, so I guess my strongest self would be the one that knows when to stop pushing and be happy with a draw...

1. d4 f5 2. Bg5 h6 3. Bh4 g5 4. Bg3 Bg7 5. e3 c5 6. c3

rnbqk1nr/pp1pp1b1/7p/2p2pp1/3P4/2P1P1B1/PP3PPP/RN1QKBNR b KQkq -
Parent - - By witchesbutt (**) Date 2019-09-02 09:52
:cool:

6...... Qb6

:eek:

The Leningrad is perhaps more 'adventurous' - this one kinda sucks but I play it against GM's and we end up doing nothing .. draw .. :lol:
However sometimes I do need a diaper change when a smart-ass GM has a surprise for me .. not nice .. :twisted::grin:
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2019-09-03 18:11
I'll only say... "bringing the queen too early?" :yell:

1. d4 f5 2. Bg5 h6 3. Bh4 g5 4. Bg3 Bg7 5. e3 c5 6. c3 Qb6 7. Nf3

rnb1k1nr/pp1pp1b1/1q5p/2p2pp1/3P4/2P1PNB1/PP3PPP/RN1QKB1R b KQkq -
Parent - - By witchesbutt (**) Date 2019-09-05 10:03
:cool:

7...... Nf6

:cool:

I was expecting Qh5+ .. :confused:
I've predicated my next response to you playing Na3 or dxc5 or Nbd2 - so please do not decide on any other move.

:grin::lol::twisted:
Parent - By Uly (Gold) Date 2019-09-07 23:08
[Redacted]
Parent - By Uly (Gold) Date 2019-09-07 23:11
LMAO - So I spent all this time analyzing and playing a move as if you had played Nc6 instead of Nf6 :yell: - so I played my move on the wrong position! Luckily I sent the full PGN so this isn't cheating! :yell:
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2019-09-08 01:35
So here's my move, I found it much faster than against 7...Nc6 o_O - I also said this in italics on my Redacted post:

> I was expecting Qh5+ .. :confused:


Weird, I didn't have it in my top 4. I'm not saying anything about Qh5 because I didn't check it at all, perhaps it was best and I missed it, but I still find that odd...

1. d4 f5 2. Bg5 h6 3. Bh4 g5 4. Bg3 Bg7 5. e3 c5 6. c3 Qb6 7. Nf3 Nf6 8. Nbd2

rnb1k2r/pp1pp1b1/1q3n1p/2p2pp1/3P4/2P1PNB1/PP1N1PPP/R2QKB1R b KQkq -
Parent - - By witchesbutt (**) Date 2019-09-08 15:16
:cool:

8..... d5

:evil:

Your redacted post was unable for viewing - did you delete it ?
Well I have what is called in polite circles .. :lol: .. an ass-brain and it pukes out weird moves.
I was playing a well known corr db compiler and I did it there too .. had a choice of 3 moves with the fourth having 3 question marks against it.
You guessed it - I played that move - funny thing - he thought it was a good move so I now own it as apparently it does not appear in some databases.
Not a game-changer but unexpected. Pretty sure if played OTB an opponent would puke.
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2019-09-13 08:55

>Your redacted post was unable for viewing - did you delete it ?


Yes, it contained a line that we didn't play, leaving it there would only leave to confusion as you didn't play 7...Nc6.

> had a choice of 3 moves with the fourth having 3 question marks against it.


Whoa! I don't think I've seen a move with three questions mark. I guess OTB people have played those kind of moves against me, like leaving their queen in a place where I could easily grab it. I guess when that happens and I miss it, forget to taking a free queen would deserve 4 question marks :yell:

1. d4 f5 2. Bg5 h6 3. Bh4 g5 4. Bg3 Bg7 5. e3 c5 6. c3 Qb6 7. Nf3 Nf6 8. Nbd2 d5 9. Qb3

rnb1k2r/pp2p1b1/1q3n1p/2pp1pp1/3P4/1QP1PNB1/PP1N1PPP/R3KB1R b KQkq -
Parent - - By witchesbutt (**) Date 2019-09-14 09:53
:cool:

9.... O-O

:cool:

Following TCEC and AllieStein - he/she/it is doing quite well .. :twisted:
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2019-09-17 22:25

>Following TCEC and AllieStein - he/she/it is doing quite well .. :twisted:


And people can't get over it being a clone of LC0 or something.

1. d4 f5 2. Bg5 h6 3. Bh4 g5 4. Bg3 Bg7 5. e3 c5 6. c3 Qb6 7. Nf3 Nf6 8. Nbd2 d5 9. Qb3 O-O 10. dxc5

rnb2rk1/pp2p1b1/1q3n1p/2Pp1pp1/8/1QP1PNB1/PP1N1PPP/R3KB1R b KQ -
Parent - - By witchesbutt (**) Date 2019-09-20 19:24
:eek:

10..... Qxc5

:lol:

Hospital today to remove cyst and childings from my nether regions.
Aliens for sure.
Not a pretty sight laying on your tummy.
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2019-09-21 16:35
Ow, I hope everything went alright :surprised:

1. d4 f5 2. Bg5 h6 3. Bh4 g5 4. Bg3 Bg7 5. e3 c5 6. c3 Qb6 7. Nf3 Nf6 8. Nbd2 d5 9. Qb3 O-O 10. dxc5 Qxc5 11. Be2

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Parent - - By witchesbutt (**) Date 2019-09-22 10:21
:cool:

11...... Nc.6

:eek::evil:

Went fine - didnt feel a thing as surgeon extracted debris - my pretty bum now has a crater .. :yell::sad::cry:
It hurts very much and meds prescibed to manage pain are way too strong for me so put up with it.
Need to have dressing changed today and tomorrow.
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2019-09-24 20:56
:(

1. d4 f5 2. Bg5 h6 3. Bh4 g5 4. Bg3 Bg7 5. e3 c5 6. c3 Qb6 7. Nf3 Nf6 8. Nbd2 d5 9. Qb3 O-O 10. Be2 Nc6 11. dxc5 Qxc5 12. h3

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Parent - - By witchesbutt (**) Date 2019-09-25 10:08
:cool:

12..... Nd7

:cool:

This unfortunate sap (alleged auto thief) - instance justice ?

https://anonfiles.com/N0o6G26dn4/received_66287599412468911_mp4
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2019-09-26 04:26
I'm not going to watch that video. No thanks.

1. d4 f5 2. Bg5 h6 3. Bh4 g5 4. Bg3 Bg7 5. e3 c5 6. c3 Qb6 7. Nf3 Nf6 8. Nbd2 d5 9. Qb3 O-O 10. Be2 Nc6 11. dxc5 Qxc5 12. h3 Nd7 13. O-O

r1b2rk1/pp1np1b1/2n4p/2qp1pp1/8/1QP1PNBP/PP1NBPP1/R4RK1 b - -
Parent - - By witchesbutt (**) Date 2019-09-26 12:06
:cool:

13.... Kh8

:cool:
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2019-09-26 16:38
Wow, I missed 13...Kh8... When the move I'm making is the only one that doesn't give you the edge I know we're near the end. Unless you're still planning to beat me as black :confused:

1. d4 f5 2. Bg5 h6 3. Bh4 g5 4. Bg3 Bg7 5. e3 c5 6. c3 Qb6 7. Nf3 Nf6 8. Nbd2 d5 9. Qb3 O-O 10. Be2 Nc6 11. dxc5 Qxc5 12. h3 Nd7 13. O-O Kh8 14. Nd4

r1b2r1k/pp1np1b1/2n4p/2qp1pp1/3N4/1QP1P1BP/PP1NBPP1/R4RK1 b - -
Parent - - By witchesbutt (**) Date 2019-09-26 20:10
:cool:

14..... Nb6

:cool:

No chance of either winning here. I have used the Dutch many times + the English as frankly I just have too many problems with other openings. Thats not to say I dont lose a game or three against very strong opponents. WDL is of no concern to me these days.

BTW - any chance I could have a copy of LUNATIC and FURY please - if you'd rather not no worries - I do promise however to THRASH you next time .. :eek::evil::grin:
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2019-10-02 23:45
Yeah, your pawn storm is very strong, after the dust settles the position is equal, or it's white who needs to be careful :eek: so I'm offering draw below.

>BTW - any chance I could have a copy of LUNATIC and FURY please


They're just Stockfish personalities, do you know how to apply personalities to engines? If not, I can guide you so you can get them.

Otherwise:

For FURY:

Get Stockfish 5 from this link to the Stockfish Archive.

Then, apply the following settings:

Mobility (Midgame)=180
Mobility (Endgame)=160
Passed Pawns (Endgame)=175
Aggressiveness=200
Emergency Move Time=20

And there you have it.

For LUNATIC:

Get a compile of this source code at Github, or here's mine but it doesn't have bmi instructions.

Then, apply the following settings:

Pawn Structure (Midgame)=0
Aggressiveness=200
Cowardice=0

And there you have it.

Note that you probably can get an improved FURY and LUNATIC by applying those settings to the 20140531-2148 version.

1. d4 f5 2. Bg5 h6 3. Bh4 g5 4. Bg3 Bg7 5. e3 c5 6. c3 Qb6 7. Nf3 Nf6 8. Nbd2 d5 9. Qb3 O-O 10. Be2 Nc6 11. dxc5 Qxc5 12. h3 Nd7 13. O-O Kh8 14. Nd4 Nb6 15. Nxc6 {Draw offer.}

r1b2r1k/pp2p1b1/1nN4p/2qp1pp1/8/1QP1P1BP/PP1NBPP1/R4RK1 b - -
Parent - - By witchesbutt (**) Date 2019-10-03 08:57
:cool:

Draw - accepted !

Thanks for the settings = will attempt and should I run into issues will PM you either here or at TalkChess.

Many thanks once again for the games, the chat and assistance .. :grin:
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2019-10-03 09:35
Yeah, thanks for the games!

>I do promise however to THRASH you next time


Oh, hey, I'd like to see you try, would you be up for another game where you THRASH me?
Parent - - By witchesbutt (**) Date 2019-10-03 14:45
Yes of course - your move - you may as well just throw in the towel right now .. :grin::lol::cool:
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2019-10-06 05:46
Alright! I think it's your turn to be white again?
Parent - - By witchesbutt (**) Date 2019-10-06 07:42
:cool:

1. e4

:evil:

Going for the jugular now .. :grin:
Parent - By Uly (Gold) Date 2019-10-08 03:35
Good luck and have fun, here's the game thread!
Parent - By witchesbutt (**) Date 2019-08-28 22:51
:cool:

The Indians are causing me heaps of trouble in that I'm not very comfortable playing them as you are aware.
The Sicilians are no better.
The Dutch offers some chances however meagre.
So I keep telling myself.

You're a GREAT help as always .. :cool::lol:
- - By witchesbutt (**) Date 2019-10-01 23:25
With respect to your post in TalkChess regarding the last SF build to use the settings you were referring to my friend 'sarona' has indicated that the settings were removed in

StockFish 20140601-1137

I have an image of the before and after which I will post at TalkChess tomorrow (Wednesday)
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2019-10-02 23:46
Oh, so you're maxdeg! Sorry, I had forgotten and it took me a while to realize what was going on :yell:
Parent - By witchesbutt (**) Date 2019-10-03 08:55
:cool:
:evil:
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