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- - By Merkury (**) Date 2019-06-17 12:38
Analytical Lab Superchess!
Founded in 2015.

Our services include remote connection of engines to programs on your computer - Chessbase, Fritz, Chessassistant, Aquarium, etc.
Long term rental, from 1 day:
1. Servers with the Lc0 engine - the newest engine on the neural network, the current world champion among computer programs! On the servers use the RTX 2080 and RTX 2080Ti video cards.
2. Servers with the Stockfish engine - a multiple world champion among computer programs! Servers from 16 cores (32 threads) to 32 cores (64 threads) are used.
3. Servers with the Stockfish engine for IDeA in the Aquarium program, from 16 to 124 engines! Servers from 16 cores (32 threads) to 32 cores (64 threads) are used.

Short term rental, from 1 minute:
4. Servers with Lc0 and Stockfish engines in the cloud of Chessbase engines.

Profitable acquisitions:
5. Chessbase Ducats with 30% Discount!

Our site is -
Parent - - By Labyrinth (*****) Date 2019-06-17 16:29
I seem to remember a similar business model..

Wow 72 kn/s on lc0? That the 2080 Ti?
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2019-06-17 21:37

> I seem to remember a similar business model..

I wonder if Vas was happy to retire because the Rybka Cluster was a big success and it still produces all money Vas and family need to this day :lol:
Parent - - By Merkury (**) Date 2019-06-18 07:42
Unlike the Rybka Cluster, our prices are 2 orders of magnitude lower.
In fact, small prices, we have some customers rent at once for several months.
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2019-06-18 11:49

> our prices are 2 orders of magnitude lower.

I wouldn't know, your prices aren't mentioned in your post anywhere, and it's really hard to make me click on ads (believe me, Youtube has tried its hardest, and they only succeed when I click it by mistake when trying to click "stop seeing this ad"....)
Parent - - By Merkury (**) Date 2019-06-18 15:24
I will correct my mistake. Here are some prices for 1 day of use. The speed of the engines is indicated in the starting position.
Lc0 - 45 k/Ns - 8 EUR (RTX 2080).
Stockfish - 42000 k/Ns - 11 EUR (32-core server).
16 engines Stockfish for IDeA - 4 EUR (16-core server).
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2019-06-18 20:47

> Here are some prices for 1 day of use.

Does 1 day of use mean 24 hours? So that if I use it daily for 24 days, for 1 hour every day, it's just 8 EUR? Or is it that if I only use it for one minute on a day I have to pay full 8 EUR?
Parent - - By Merkury (**) Date 2019-06-19 01:25
Yes. 24 hours - 8 EUR.
Parent - By Uly (Gold) Date 2019-06-19 17:04
Well, for 8 EUR Netflix is giving me 720 hours (they run all the time whether I use them or not, though), so you got competition there :lol:
Parent - - By Merkury (**) Date 2019-06-18 03:38
This is the RTX 2080Ti + RTX 2080.
Parent - - By gsgs (***) Date 2019-06-18 18:15 Edited 2019-06-18 18:26
can you analyze 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Be3 e6 7,a3
for some days with Lc0 multipv=8 and send the logfile ? I pay with paypal.
Or any other format, unless encrypted.
I don't know aquarium or such.
Just the startposition would also be interesting.

or result posted here (8 evals) for your advertisement ;-)


also as a suggestion for an additional easy format : just a position (fen) and you give the best move with eval
(e.g. for correspondence chess)
or you play a game or tournament .. e.g. TCEC superfinal for ~$500 , not life, though.
or you produce Lc0 testing games against payment
Parent - - By Merkury (**) Date 2019-06-19 02:17
It is not possible to analyze one position for several days using Lc0.
Tree iteration Lc0 is stored in RAM. One position occupies 250 bytes, if the speed is 45 k/Ns, then in 1 second 250x(45x1024)=11520000 bytes (11Mb) will be occupied.
For 1 hour, 11Mbx3600=39600Mb (38.7Gb) will be occupied. In fact, the memory consumption is slightly less due to transpositions, etc.
In practice, there is no point in analyzing one Lc0 position for more than 20-30 minutes, the move and position evaluation will not change.
It is not necessary to analyze Lc0 in the Aquarium program, it can be analyzed in Chessbase.
Lc0 in our project is used by grandmasters and correspondence masters and grandmasters.
By paying 8 euros to our PayPal - you can use Lc0 for 24 hours, analyzing many different positions. If you have never used Lc0 on powerful hardware, you will be pleasantly surprised by the abundance of new ideas and the quality of analysis.
Parent - - By gsgs (***) Date 2019-06-19 07:11
I see, it's not so easy for me...
I'm not familiar with chessbase either (is it encrypted ?), just plain logfiles (droidfish,cutechess-cli)
Maybe I can learn chessbase or aquarium later...
What about outputting just bestmoves and evals (multipv=8 ?)
Well, I could make a file containing a list of many fens to be analysed at 20min each 

I assume the RAM should be overwritten after some time, just as the hash in stockfish ?

Lc0 is especially strong at long TC, so I assumed the best-move and eval should improve after 20min.
We know it until TCEC TC, not beyond.
Parent - - By Merkury (**) Date 2019-06-19 07:57
We do not do a position analysis. Customers do it themselves. We provide our hardware remotely, with a connection to the program on the сustomer computer. These are programs Chessbase, Fritz, Aquarium and some others. These programs must support the UCI protocol for connecting the engine and be installed on a Windows computer. Of course, these programs support the multipv = 8 analysis mode.
On a powerful hardware, it really does not make sense to analyze more than 20-30 minutes per move, since the neural network is almost completely exhausted.
When the position for analysis changes the RAM is cleared. In the position replacement mode it is possible to analyze without time limits.
Parent - - By gsgs (***) Date 2019-06-19 08:46
so, it's basically just a remote server ? Like the others ?
Not chess-specific ?

I was hoping for an easier thing.
I mean, for stupid chessplayers ;-), not computer-experts.
Parent - By Merkury (**) Date 2019-06-19 09:24
Our servers are used only for chess.
No need to be a computer expert.
Our services can be used by any user who has a Windows computer and has a chess program installed.
Parent - - By Weirwindle (***) Date 2019-11-05 03:19
I get 32 Kn/s on my RTX 2070 Max-Q
Using CUDAnn-fp16 I get up to 80 Kn/s from start position.
Using Lenovo Legion with i7 9750H

I know you guys are going to say that you should not use a laptop for analysis but I am very happy
with the performance and temperature control. No thermal throttling needed on 17 inch laptop.
Parent - By Labyrinth (*****) Date 2019-11-05 22:41
Nice, I just upgraded my PC after 10 years, so I have an RTX 2080 Super. I wonder what I can get on LC0.
- By Merkury (**) Date 2019-08-29 14:19
Our project continues quantitative and qualitative expansion.
1. The number of engines for IDeA has been increased from 124 to 152.
2. Today, August 29, server №13 was put into operation - CPU Ryzen 3600x, RAM 64Gb, GPU RTX 2080Ti with the Lc0 engine. The speed of the engine is 66 k/Ns in the starting position.
In the coming days, it is planned to upgrade servers №7 and №11.
- By Merkury (**) Date 2019-09-01 03:35
We have reduced the prices for using engines for IA. Prices reduced by 15-25%.
- By Merkury (**) Date 2019-09-02 14:14
We offer to watch a small commercial, which clearly shows the services that we provide to our customers.
- By Merkury (**) Date 2019-09-04 02:34
We continue to improve our project. Server №7 has been upgraded from 28 to 40 cores. Stockfish speed at a starting position of 52000 k/Ns. Now it is our fastest server for Stockfish. On asmFish, the speed of this server is 63000 k/Ns in the starting position.
The number of engines for IDeA has increased from 152 to 164.
- By Hamster (**) Date 2019-09-05 14:28
I have been using the Supercomputer for a while now and I am very happy with the offering.
Cheaper and more versatile than Chessbase cloud or other possibilities - only downside is that
they are often fully booked. Maybe I should not have written those lines...
- - By Merkury (**) Date 2019-09-05 17:31
We upgraded the server №11, now the speed Lc0 in the starting position 82 k/Ns. This is our fastest server with the Lc0 engine. The performance of Lc0 is higher than that of the server on TCEC.
Parent - - By shrapnel (***) Date 2019-10-20 17:51
What size Network are you using ? 128x10 ?
Parent - By Merkury (**) Date 2019-10-21 00:45
We use neural networks 256x20.
- By Merkury (**) Date 2019-10-14 03:38
We continue to increase the quantity and quality of iron in our project. Here is what has been done this time:
A new server №14 with the Lc0 engine was introduced into the project, the speed at the initial position is 45 k/Ns. We upgraded server №13, now the speed Lc0 in the initial position 82 k/Ns. Server №9 has been upgraded from 24 to 28 cores.
To be continued...
- By Merkury (**) Date 2019-11-05 00:24
We again increased the number of our servers. A 24-core (48 threads) server №15 with the Stockfish engine was added to the project, 24 engines for IDeA were added.
Welcome to our project! Rates from 4 EUR.
- By Merkury (**) Date 2019-12-25 01:41
In addition to the quantitative and qualitative growth of computer capacities, the improvement of the project software continues. We have greatly simplified the connection of engines to Chessbase programs, now the connection is literally in 2 clicks. You can read more on our website -
- By Merkury (**) Date 2020-01-06 14:46
Our project is again replenished with computer capacities. The project introduced a 40-core (80 threads) server №16 with the Stockfish engine. The server №14 with the Lc0 engine has been upgraded. The development of the project will continue...
- By Merkury (**) Date 2020-01-23 10:04
We are continuing to expand the project. A new server №17 with the Lc0 engine was introduced into the project, the speed in the initial position is 70 k/Ns. Updated Stockfish engine, now using Stockfish 11.
- By Merkury (**) Date 2020-01-23 13:03
According to updated data, the speed of the Lc0 engine on server №17 is 65 k/Ns.
- By Merkury (**) Date 2020-03-17 05:57
Server №3 has been upgraded, now it is a server with two video cards RTX 2080 + RTX 2060.

Updated Lc0 engine, now using version - 0.24.1.

We switched to promising neural networks of the new generation T60. These neural networks are significantly slower than T40, but stronger and more efficient, especially in analysis. T60 neural networks have a deeper dimension of 320x24, unlike previous T40 neural networks - 256x20. Now the neural network T60 is used - 320x24-62800.

Updated engine speeds Lc0, as well as our services and prices.
- - By Merkury (**) Date 2020-07-29 00:41
The project continues to develop. Several servers were upgraded in June. One of the servers with Lc0 now has 3 video cards installed. Now in our project there are 17 servers involved (10 with Stockfish and 7 with Lc0). The mechanism for connecting to engines has been simplified as much as possible, the connection takes just a few seconds.

We also continue to sell Chessbase ducats at a 30% discount.
Parent - - By Carl Bicknell (*****) Date 2020-08-13 19:38

I can't see prices for the larger IDeA setups.

How much is your biggest IDeA setup running for 24 hours?
Parent - By Merkury (**) Date 2020-08-14 02:26
We have 7 servers that we use for IDeA. These servers have a total of 160 cores (160 IDeA engines).
Someone rents 2 servers for IDeA, another client 3 servers, etc. Now all these servers are busy until September.
Our servers work around the clock for many months 24/7. For example, if you rent 32 IDeA engines for 10 days, then all 240 hours these engines will work.
Parent - - By Boombaard (**) Date 2020-09-05 18:10
Do you have 7-men tablebases available?
Parent - By Merkury (**) Date 2020-09-06 02:14
Not. We are using 6-men syzygy.
- By Merkury (**) Date 2020-09-01 11:55
We continue to expand the project. Today, September 01, our project has been replenished with a new 40-core (80 threads) server №18 with the Stockfish engine.
- By Merkury (**) Date 2020-10-02 12:00
We have reduced prices for ducats, now you can buy ducats with a 40% discount! Server №13 (graphics cards) with Lc0 engine is now available 6 hours a day. The minimum rental period is 5 days.
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