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- - By Merkury (**) Date 2019-06-17 12:38
Analytical Lab Superchess!
Founded in 2015.

Our services include remote connection of engines to programs on your computer - Chessbase, Fritz, Chessassistant, Aquarium, etc.
  
Long term rental, from 1 day:
1. Servers with the Lc0 engine - the newest engine on the neural network, the current world champion among computer programs! On the servers use the RTX 2080 and RTX 2080Ti video cards.
2. Servers with the Stockfish engine - a multiple world champion among computer programs! Servers from 16 cores (32 threads) to 32 cores (64 threads) are used.
3. Servers with the Stockfish engine for IDeA in the Aquarium program, from 16 to 124 engines! Servers from 16 cores (32 threads) to 32 cores (64 threads) are used.

Short term rental, from 1 minute:
4. Servers with Lc0 and Stockfish engines in the cloud of Chessbase engines.

Profitable acquisitions:
5. Chessbase Ducats with 30% Discount!

Our site is - https://www.superchess.org/--2-c8gk
Parent - - By Labyrinth (*****) Date 2019-06-17 16:29
I seem to remember a similar business model..

Wow 72 kn/s on lc0? That the 2080 Ti?
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2019-06-17 21:37

> I seem to remember a similar business model..


I wonder if Vas was happy to retire because the Rybka Cluster was a big success and it still produces all money Vas and family need to this day :lol:
Parent - - By Merkury (**) Date 2019-06-18 07:42
Unlike the Rybka Cluster, our prices are 2 orders of magnitude lower.
In fact, small prices, we have some customers rent at once for several months.
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2019-06-18 11:49

> our prices are 2 orders of magnitude lower.


I wouldn't know, your prices aren't mentioned in your post anywhere, and it's really hard to make me click on ads (believe me, Youtube has tried its hardest, and they only succeed when I click it by mistake when trying to click "stop seeing this ad"....)
Parent - - By Merkury (**) Date 2019-06-18 15:24
I will correct my mistake. Here are some prices for 1 day of use. The speed of the engines is indicated in the starting position.
Lc0 - 45 k/Ns - 8 EUR (RTX 2080).
Stockfish - 42000 k/Ns - 11 EUR (32-core server).
16 engines Stockfish for IDeA - 4 EUR (16-core server).
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) Date 2019-06-18 20:47

> Here are some prices for 1 day of use.


Does 1 day of use mean 24 hours? So that if I use it daily for 24 days, for 1 hour every day, it's just 8 EUR? Or is it that if I only use it for one minute on a day I have to pay full 8 EUR?
Parent - - By Merkury (**) Date 2019-06-19 01:25
Yes. 24 hours - 8 EUR.
Parent - By Uly (Gold) Date 2019-06-19 17:04
Well, for 8 EUR Netflix is giving me 720 hours (they run all the time whether I use them or not, though), so you got competition there :lol:
Parent - - By Merkury (**) Date 2019-06-18 03:38
This is the RTX 2080Ti + RTX 2080.
Parent - - By gsgs (***) Date 2019-06-18 18:15 Edited 2019-06-18 18:26
can you analyze 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Be3 e6 7,a3
for some days with Lc0 multipv=8 and send the logfile ? I pay with paypal.
Or any other format, unless encrypted.
I don't know aquarium or such.
Just the startposition would also be interesting.

or result posted here (8 evals) for your advertisement ;-)

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also as a suggestion for an additional easy format : just a position (fen) and you give the best move with eval
(e.g. for correspondence chess)
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or you play a game or tournament .. e.g. TCEC superfinal for ~$500 , not life, though.
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or you produce Lc0 testing games against payment
Parent - - By Merkury (**) Date 2019-06-19 02:17
It is not possible to analyze one position for several days using Lc0.
Tree iteration Lc0 is stored in RAM. One position occupies 250 bytes, if the speed is 45 k/Ns, then in 1 second 250x(45x1024)=11520000 bytes (11Mb) will be occupied.
For 1 hour, 11Mbx3600=39600Mb (38.7Gb) will be occupied. In fact, the memory consumption is slightly less due to transpositions, etc.
In practice, there is no point in analyzing one Lc0 position for more than 20-30 minutes, the move and position evaluation will not change.
It is not necessary to analyze Lc0 in the Aquarium program, it can be analyzed in Chessbase.
Lc0 in our project is used by grandmasters and correspondence masters and grandmasters.
By paying 8 euros to our PayPal - merkmerkury@gmail.com you can use Lc0 for 24 hours, analyzing many different positions. If you have never used Lc0 on powerful hardware, you will be pleasantly surprised by the abundance of new ideas and the quality of analysis.
Parent - - By gsgs (***) Date 2019-06-19 07:11
I see, it's not so easy for me...
I'm not familiar with chessbase either (is it encrypted ?), just plain logfiles (droidfish,cutechess-cli)
Maybe I can learn chessbase or aquarium later...
What about outputting just bestmoves and evals (multipv=8 ?)
Well, I could make a file containing a list of many fens to be analysed at 20min each 

I assume the RAM should be overwritten after some time, just as the hash in stockfish ?

Lc0 is especially strong at long TC, so I assumed the best-move and eval should improve after 20min.
We know it until TCEC TC, not beyond.
Parent - - By Merkury (**) Date 2019-06-19 07:57
We do not do a position analysis. Customers do it themselves. We provide our hardware remotely, with a connection to the program on the —Āustomer computer. These are programs Chessbase, Fritz, Aquarium and some others. These programs must support the UCI protocol for connecting the engine and be installed on a Windows computer. Of course, these programs support the multipv = 8 analysis mode.
On a powerful hardware, it really does not make sense to analyze more than 20-30 minutes per move, since the neural network is almost completely exhausted.
When the position for analysis changes the RAM is cleared. In the position replacement mode it is possible to analyze without time limits.
Parent - - By gsgs (***) Date 2019-06-19 08:46
so, it's basically just a remote server ? Like the others ?
Not chess-specific ?

I was hoping for an easier thing.
I mean, for stupid chessplayers ;-), not computer-experts.
Parent - By Merkury (**) Date 2019-06-19 09:24
Our servers are used only for chess.
No need to be a computer expert.
Our services can be used by any user who has a Windows computer and has a chess program installed.
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