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- - By Vegan (****) Date 2018-12-13 00:47
http://www.hardcoregames.biz/intel-sunny-cove/

The new Sunny Cove has more L1and L2 cache which will make it faster than older processors
Parent - - By The Truth (**) Date 2018-12-13 18:06
This should have been released years ago, just way too long for intel's 10 nm. Ryzen 3000 7nm will make this obsolete before it is even released. Ryzen 9 3850X - 16/32 - 4.3/5.1GHz - 135w @ 499 will be the bang for the buck cpu of 2019. Also there is even rumors of Threadripper 3000 64 cores that can be dual socket. And AMD will also make quad cores finally obsolete, now even the cheapest option is a 6 core comparable or even better to intel's mid-high range x299 cpus just released a year ago.

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/64104/amd-ryzen-9-3850x-zen-2-16c-32t-5-1ghz-499/index.html
https://www.funkykit.com/news/amd-ryzen-9-3800-and-threadripper-3990wx-black-edition-spec-leaked/

Next gen Highend AMD cpus will probably push traditional engines to the limit of diminishing returns and it might just be a battle vs nvdia's next gen top gpu running lc0 or some AI engine rather than intel's cpus.
Parent - - By Labyrinth (*****) Date 2018-12-13 22:32

>Ryzen 3000 7nm will make this obsolete before it is even released.


I think this is more than a bit hasty. The Ryzen 9 specs are rumors for the time being, and everyone is pretty skeptical of the claims. Also should be noted that Intel 10 nm is actually smaller (more transistor density) than TSMC 7 nm.

>And AMD will also make quad cores finally obsolete


'Obsolete' is a bit of a stretch, core count is not the whole picture by far, and in fact, core count + clockspeed effectively isn't either these days. Sadly we are in the era of 'contortions' as everyone tries to eek out more performance from the diminishing returns and increasingly difficulty of making smaller nodes.
Parent - By The Truth (**) Date 2018-12-25 19:13
Well it might not be obsolete technology wise but price wise, it is. These intel cpus that have high core counts use a single die and have poor yields and costing more. Combining high yield cheaper dies by AMD was a smart move. 10nm have been in development for so long and Intel will be selling at a loss if they tried to match AMD's pricing with their 10nm cpus, so their only option is to price them sky high and hope they beat AMD by a few % in ipc or clockspeed and still claim the "fastest cpu".

You can already see the trouble with their Xeon W-3175X, rumored to costs 4k, still to be release and it will be hard to find. With only one motherboard, the Asus dominus Extreme, that is only known to work and OC the chip. Also requires 2 psu to work and probably some extreme cooling. And this was supposed to match 2990wx by AMD that has been out for months and costs half with more cores. And this is still 14nm, and they already have poor yields. Their 10nm cpus will be a shitstorm...

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-xeon-w-3175x-price-retail,38254.html
Parent - By Vegan (****) Date 2018-12-14 01:10
all i know is that intel has worked to fix the problems with the core architecture which is why they took so long to fix things
Parent - - By Carl Bicknell (*****) Date 2018-12-14 08:19

> The new Sunny Cove has more L1and L2 cache which will make it faster than older processors


Although not necessarily for chess from what I've read.

The naming policy is laughable: "Ice Lake" got frozen in time but it's OK because now we have "Sunny Cove"

:grin:
Parent - - By The Wizard (***) Date 2018-12-26 01:02
Hi, It is very hard to believe that AMD can sell the Ryzen 9 3850X  16C/32T at 5.1GHz for just $499 :eek::eek: do not get me wrong I am cheering AMD on to do so :grin: and if Threadripper 3990WX Black Edition has 64\128 setup then maybe they are just trying to kill off Intel with one shot ... will it happen or will the evil empire :evil: have something up its sleeve? personally I hope not as they have made us pay through the nose but as they have had the best kit they of course can charge what they like, competition is always good for the buyers just wish the thieving bastards who make the memory modules could be sorted out lol

Regards
Parent - By Vegan (****) Date 2018-12-27 00:51
Wonder how much the R9 processor will cost on the street after it launches next year.
Parent - By RFK (Gold) Date 2018-12-27 08:22 Edited 2018-12-27 08:31
Something smells fishy about this latest AMD Ryzen 3000: Ryzen 9 3850X with 16 cores and 5.1 GHz-hype!

Considering the AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2950X -
25915
Single Thread Rating: 2215
Samples: 155*
Clockspeed: 3.5 GHz, Turbo Speed: 4.4 GHz, No of Cores: 16 (2 logical cores per physical)
Typical TDP: 180 W is typically running around $899.99-$961.58.

Addendum: Okay, the hype -"Instead of 14nm AMD now uses 7nm, probably also with EUV ...chances for efficiency on the one hand, but also for performance on the other hand."

Let's see how all this  bears out through balls on board experience.
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