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- - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2018-04-17 13:42
1. d4 *
Parent - - By Master Om (Bronze) [in] Date 2018-04-17 16:34
1...Nf6
Parent - - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2018-04-17 18:18
Oh yeah, openings in corr-chess have such a beautiful tension... its like when the pants come down... :grin:

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 *
Parent - - By Master Om (Bronze) [in] Date 2018-04-17 18:20

> its like when the pants come down... :grin:


Skirts go up :twisted:

2...g6
Parent - - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2018-04-17 18:54
:evil: Yes, and you quickly realize whether today will be your day - or not.

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 *
Parent - - By Master Om (Bronze) [in] Date 2018-04-18 15:15

>:evil: Yes, and you quickly realize whether today will be your day - or not.


And night too. :twisted::twisted::twisted:

3...Bg7

rnbqk2r/ppppppbp/5np1/8/2PP4/2N5/PP2PPPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq - 0 4
Parent - - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2018-04-18 16:24

> And night too. :twisted::twisted::twisted:


Nights i just sleep and dream about my corr-positions... :grin:

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 *
Parent - - By Master Om (Bronze) [in] Date 2018-04-18 16:27
4...d6

>Nights i just sleep and dream about my corr-positions... :grin:


Doggie ?  :lol::lol::lol:

rnbqk2r/ppp1ppbp/3p1np1/8/2PPP3/2N5/PP3PPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq - 0 5
Parent - - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2018-04-18 16:31

> Doggie ?  :lol::lol::lol:


:wink: I was sure you would read out exactly that...

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. h3 *
Parent - - By Master Om (Bronze) [in] Date 2018-04-18 17:25

>:wink: I was sure you would read out exactly that...


Exactly not..... :twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted:

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. h3 O-O *

rnbq1rk1/ppp1ppbp/3p1np1/8/2PPP3/2N4P/PP3PP1/R1BQKBNR w KQ - 0 6
Parent - - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2018-04-18 19:58
Seems the injected Calcutta(1855)-blood is already working... :twisted:

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. h3 O-O 6. Nf3 *
Parent - - By Master Om (Bronze) [in] Date 2018-04-19 02:47

>Seems the injected Calcutta(1855)-blood is already working... :twisted:


Doesn't work on me. Am not Bong commie lol. :yell:

6...e5

rnbq1rk1/ppp2pbp/3p1np1/4p3/2PPP3/2N2N1P/PP3PP1/R1BQKB1R w KQ - 0 7
Parent - - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2018-04-19 07:42
I had to smile... a little!



1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. h3 O-O 6. Nf3 e5 7. d5 *
Parent - - By Master Om (Bronze) [in] Date 2018-04-22 03:11
7...a5

rnbq1rk1/1pp2pbp/3p1np1/p2Pp3/2P1P3/2N2N1P/PP3PP1/R1BQKB1R w KQ - 0 8
Parent - - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2018-04-22 07:13
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. h3 O-O 6. Nf3 e5 7. d5 a5 8. g4 *
Parent - - By Master Om (Bronze) Date 2018-04-23 02:18
8...Na6

r1bq1rk1/1pp2pbp/n2p1np1/p2Pp3/2P1P1P1/2N2N1P/PP3P2/R1BQKB1R w KQ - 0 9
Parent - - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2018-04-23 07:11 Edited 2018-04-23 07:13
I browsed yesterday a little through your [black-pieces] WBCCC-games and was really surprised seeing José opting for 8. Bd3 - maybe his inner desire to castle short?!, which you immediately took care of with the rare (but good!) Nh5->Nf4-plan. 8. Be2 can transform into Petrosian-area, which i think is to slow in any combination. 8. Bg5 is the most played and most likely deepest analyzed approach, but in a lot lines -including 9. g4 Na6 9. Bg5 as well- it just seems that Qe8 is simply a good move for Black which leaves the bishop sometimes exposed or readily waiting to be exchanged by its currently less effective counter-part. In the end 8. Be3 or the chosen 8. g4 Na6 9. Be3 transpose...

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. h3 O-O 6. Nf3 e5 7. d5 a5 8. g4 Na6 9. Be3 *
Parent - By Master Om (Bronze) Date 2018-04-23 11:23 Upvotes 1
This Bagirov or the makogonov line is not problem for me. Since i have played this many times in ICCF.

9....Nd7

r1bq1rk1/1ppn1pbp/n2p2p1/p2Pp3/2P1P1P1/2N1BN1P/PP3P2/R2QKB1R w KQ - 0 10
Parent - - By Master Om (Bronze) Date 2018-04-23 11:27 Upvotes 1

>9. g4 Na6 9. Bg5 as well- it just seems that Qe8 is simply a good move for Black which leaves the bishop sometimes exposed or readily waiting to be exchanged by its currently less effective counter-part. In the end 8. Be3 or the chosen 8. g4 Na6 9. Be3 transpose...


[Event "Australian Masters 2017"]
[Site "ICCF"]
[Date "2017.06.30"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Whaley, Michael"]
[Black "Prakash, Om"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[Annotator "?"]
[BlackElo "2381"]
[Classes "0"]
[ECO "E92"]
[GameID "0"]
[TimeControl "?"]
[WhiteElo "2382"]

1. c4 Nf6 2. Nc3 g6 3. e4 d6 4. d4 Bg7 5. Nf3 O-O 6. Be2 e5 7. d5
a5 8. Bg5 Na6 9. Nd2 Qe8 10. a3 Bd7 11. b3 Kh8 12. Bxf6 Bxf6 13. Bg4 Bg5 14.
Bxd7 Qxd7 15. O-O Bh6 16. Rb1 f5 17. b4 Bxd2 18. Qxd2 f4 19. f3 g5 20. h3 h5
21. Kf2 axb4 22. axb4 Kh7 23. Ne2 Qd8 24. g3 Nb8 25. Ra1 Nd7 26. Qc3 Qf6 27.
Kg2 b6 28. Rxa8 Rxa8 29. Ra1 Rf8 30. Ra7 Qd8 31. Qe1 Nf6 32. Qf2 Qb8 33. Ra1
Rg8 34. c5 bxc5 35. bxc5 Rg7 36. g4 Qb4 37. cxd6 cxd6 38. Ra7 h4 39. Rxg7+
Kxg7 40. Qa7+ Kg6 41. Qc7 Ng8 42. Qc8 Nh6 43. Qe6+ Kg7 44. Ng1 Qb2+ 45. Kh1
Nf7 1/2-1/2
Parent - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2018-04-23 23:41

> This Bagirov or the makogonov line is not problem for me. Since i have played this many times in ICCF.


Bagirov for you is Bg5 (in general) and "Makogonov line" [the Be2-idea in] M's game vs. Boleslavsky (which btw. has just a brilliant middle-game!)?! Or are you referencing to our current game/position?

Your embedded game is a Petrosian-Stein to me, as obviously h3 just comes with move 20.

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. h3 O-O 6. Nf3 e5 7. d5 a5 8. g4 Na6
9. Be3 Nd7 10. a3 *
Parent - - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2018-04-27 08:18
Do you need a little help with our game? :grin:

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. h3 O-O 6. Nf3 e5 7. d5 a5 8. g4 Na6
9. Be3 Nd7 10. a3 *

r1bq1rk1/1ppn1pbp/n2p2p1/p2Pp3/2P1P1P1/P1N1BN1P/1P3P2/R2QKB1R b KQ - 0 10
Parent - - By Master Om (Bronze) [in] Date 2018-04-27 11:42

>Do you need a little help with our game? :grin:


I need free time from my work hours to reply your move. I have played these positions before.
I want to try new moves. So need time.

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. h3 O-O
6. Nf3 e5 7. d5 a5 8. g4 Na6 9. Be3 Nd7 10. a3 Nac5 *

r1bq1rk1/1ppn1pbp/3p2p1/p1nPp3/2P1P1P1/P1N1BN1P/1P3P2/R2QKB1R w KQ - 0 11
Parent - - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2018-04-27 12:43
Oh :smile:, my offer to help was pretty candid... Did you check 10...Nb6!? as well? What's your opinion about it?
Parent - - By Master Om (Bronze) [in] Date 2018-04-27 12:45

>Oh , my offer to help was pretty honest... Did you check 10...Nb6!? as well? What's your opinion about it?


That is what i have played earlier in one of my games. Its sound and well holds the position AFAIK.
Parent - - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2018-04-27 14:23
Well, after 10...Nb6!? the a6-knight comes to c5 sooner or later anyways, while in your chosen 10...Nac5-line the d-knight [still] trends to b6... there are obviously advantages[cut-out-transpositions] and disadvantages[newly-possible-transpositions] to both approaches, but the major "drawback" of 10...Nac5 seems to be that Black's control over b4 is [temporarly] lost and the a8-rook is currently not defended (which it would be with Nb6). Will reply to your chosen mover later.

Btw., as i see in daily international weather-forecast [New] Delhi with 40 degrees every day... how do you guys survive this? In Germany, we may have 3 or 4 days in a row with that temperature, and then its a real challenge for every human [and animal] being... but yes, obviously the girls wear less clothes! :twisted:
Parent - By Master Om (Bronze) [in] Date 2018-04-27 15:09

>Btw., as i see in daily international weather-forecast [New] Delhi with 40 degrees every day... how do you guys survive this?


Normal for us :grin:

>but yes, obviously the girls wear less clothes! :twisted:


Summer is eye candy for men there but not in india. :yell:
Parent - - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2018-04-27 23:14
A chess-chick just for you...



1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. h3 O-O 6. Nf3 e5 7. d5 a5 8. g4 Na6
9. Be3 Nd7 10. a3 Nac5 11. Rg1 *

r1bq1rk1/1ppn1pbp/3p2p1/p1nPp3/2P1P1P1/P1N1BN1P/1P3P2/R2QKBR1 b Q - 1 11
Parent - - By Master Om (Bronze) [in] Date 2018-04-29 08:32
Now its a different ball field altogether. Now the actual game starts. :lol:
Parent - - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2018-04-29 08:42
Think 11...Qe7 is your best chance here.
Parent - - By Master Om (Bronze) [in] Date 2018-04-29 08:43
Thats my 4th move choice. I barely make queen moves in opening.
Parent - - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2018-04-29 08:48
For whatever you will decide: Have fun analyzing! :smile:
Parent - - By Master Om (Bronze) [in] Date 2018-04-29 08:49

>For whatever you will decide: Have fun analyzing! :smile:


thats the key. yeah!! :smile:
Parent - - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2018-04-29 11:14
And always have an eye for the inner values of a move:



11...Qe7!:
- has an eye on Bg7
- clears the back-rank for the rooks and maybe even knights
- prepares a more useful c6 later
- not to mention its central role regarding e5...
Parent - - By Master Om (Bronze) [in] Date 2018-04-30 02:40
I usually don't regard QUEENS too much . Use them only when required.
In Original version of chess there was no queen. Since women were cause of war not the part of war. :twisted:
Parent - - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2018-04-30 06:18
Oh, i just wanted to help and share my little opinion...

> I usually don't regard QUEENS too much . Use them only when required.


True, but this could land you on a #MeToo-twitter...

> Since women were cause of war not the part of war. :twisted:


:lol:
Parent - - By Master Om (Bronze) [in] Date 2018-04-30 06:50

>Oh, i just wanted to help and share my little opinion...


And u were right on what u said.

>True, but this could land you on a #MeToo-twitter...


that hypocrite movement awwww.
Parent - - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2018-04-30 07:48
Well, in real-life the queen is always riding on top...



> that hypocrite movement awwww.


The funny thing is that movement sources in the movie/model-industry... i guess all that women should simply work in a real job with all their non-beauty&body-related skills... haha.

I mean, take Tania Sachdev (no!, not like you just imagined - i meant as example!): Invited at all tournaments, Chessbase-DVD-recordings, RedBull-contract, photo-shoots, ... simply because of her chess-skills! Now imagine a man ELO 2400 getting all that attention(=easy money), or earning money with that chess-skills at all... :grin:
Parent - - By Master Om (Bronze) [in] Date 2018-04-30 15:29

>Well, in real-life the queen is always riding on top...


Thats the life of a white knight or a simp or a mangina.

In chess there can b 9 queens. But 1 king. Queen dies gamnes not over. King dies games over. One queen goes a pawn can become queen. :lol:
Parent - - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2018-04-30 18:46

> Thats the life of a white knight or a simp or a mangina.


Thank you for all the new vocabulary! :grin:

Playing you i'm currently very interested into India, a country here in Germany always associated with an atom bomb & Pakistan-conflict, hard working people, absolutely overcrowded trains (read your population will overtake China in 202x), spirituality (Alanis Morissette "Thank you India!"), IT-outsourcing (Bangalore...) and hard to cr*ck chess-openings :grin:... may i ask what federal state you're from?

> King dies games over. One queen goes a pawn can become queen. :lol:


:lol: It already frightens me that you treat our little fun-game here more serious than every ICCF-game... but i already thought you would do that, and you surely have not so much presents for me than for our Depth62copypaster & Wannacorrviceworldchamp... :wink:

Please see @1:16 for my opinion about that matter: Feels like cheating!
Parent - - By Master Om (Bronze) [in] Date 2018-05-01 02:11

>and you surely have not so much presents for me than for our Depth62copypaster & Wannacorrviceworldchamp... :wink:



:fat:
Parent - - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2018-05-01 07:07
10...exd4 (10...Re8!) there was already so questionable like not playing 11...Qe7! would be in our current position. :grin: Btw., it still isn't played here?!
Parent - - By Master Om (Bronze) [in] Date 2018-05-01 07:48

>10...exd4 (10...Re8!) there was already so questionable like not playing 11...Qe7! would be in our current position.


That 10...exd4 was recommended in a book named Modernised Kings Indian.
Parent - - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2018-05-01 08:14
Well, literature is always OTB-orientated (is 10. Qe2 even in it?!) and just a source of inspiration for corr-players... the time you play it, its YOUR move. :wink:
Parent - By Master Om (Bronze) [in] Date 2018-05-01 08:15
True.
Parent - - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2018-04-29 09:14
Btw., wonder whether 10...Nb6!? was #4 too until i told you you?! :grin: Now we play a #2-10...Nac5-line... where you still have a decent 11...Qe7!
Parent - - By Master Om (Bronze) [in] Date 2018-04-29 09:21
I have Played Nb6 earlier in a old game of mine. I have those analysis with me. In that line i got cramped in few moves. So I didnt want to try now. So I opted for another secondary line.
Parent - - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2018-04-29 09:31 Edited 2018-04-29 09:34

> In that line i got cramped in few moves.


Fascinating, the day before yesterday you summarized it as "Its sound and well holds the position AFAIK." :evil:

Still think it (10...Nb6 11. Rg1 Bd7) is Black's best approach, with nice queenside-pressure plus ugly Nxe4-ideas.
Parent - By Master Om (Bronze) [in] Date 2018-04-30 02:37

>Fascinating, the day before yesterday you summarized it as "Its sound and well holds the position AFAIK." :evil:


It does. But I cramped it by over doing the position. Still it held the position.

>Still think it (10...Nb6 11. Rg1 Bd7) is Black's best approach, with nice queenside-pressure plus ugly Nxe4-ideas.


Same line I played before. Thats why trying a new one.
Parent - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2018-04-29 11:14
It will be difficult anyways, that's for sure... but i thought 10...Nb6!? makes 11. Rg1 a little less attractive.
What Black needs is a f5-break, and best case a possibility to pin the rook on f4.
Parent - - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2018-04-29 08:48

> Now its a different ball field altogether.


Btw., she plays(&speaks&b....) a very good French! :grin:
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