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- - By Venator (Silver) [nl] Date 2017-09-24 11:35 Upvotes 3
Hi all,

I have completed my 6 testsets in the King's Indian and offer them as a free download below. The testsets are based on the series Kotronias on The King's Indian volume 1 through 5. I.e. the sets focus on the main lines given in these 5 books.

A short description of the 6 testsets:

* Noomen KI Fianchetto Systems 2017 => covers the systems in which white plays g2-g3;
* Noomen KI Mar del Plata Testsuite 2017 => covers the Mar del Plata main lines with 9.Ne1 and Taimanov's 9.Bd2;
* Noomen KI Mar del Plata II Testsuite 2017 => covers the Bayonet attack 9.b4 and 9.Nd2;
* Noomen KI Classical Systems 2017 => covers the Averbakh, Makogonov, Petrosian, Gligoric, Karpov and a few other systems;
* Noomen KI Samisch 2017 => covers the Samisch, focus is on the 6.Be3 c5 system (but the other systems are covered as well);
* Noomen KI Rare Lines 2017 => covers the Four Pawns attack, the Seirawan system, Smyslov-Inkiov system, 3.f3, Bg5 systems, h3 systems and a few others.

In my view the King's Indian is a great fighting opening; it is complicated, sometimes even murky and - most important - engines are often way too optimistic about white's chances.

Enjoy testing!
Parent - By CumnorChessClub (***) [gb] Date 2017-09-24 20:40
Thank you, much appreciated:cool:
- - By Lazy Frank (***) [gb] Date 2017-09-26 06:20
Thanks Jeroen!

I merge all KI testsuites in one and run tournament. Here is is one nice sample.


[White "Stockfish (Bench 5037819)"]
[Black "Komodo 11.2.2"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "E69"]
[Opening "King's Indian"]
[Variation "Fianchetto, Classical, 9.h3 Qb6 10.c5"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "87"]
[WhiteType "engine"]
[BlackType "engine"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. g3 Bg7 4. Bg2 O-O 5. Nf3 d6 6. Nc3 Nbd7 7. O-O e5 8.
e4 c6 9. h3 Qb6 10. c5 dxc5 11. dxe5 Ne8 12. Qc2 Nc7 13. Na4 Qb5 14. Be3
Ne6 15. Rad1 Re8 16. b3 b6 17. Ne1 Nd4 18. Bxd4 cxd4 19. f4 c5 20. Nb2 Ba6
21. Rf2 Qa5 22. a4 Rab8 23. h4 b5 24. axb5 Bxb5 25. Bh3 Bf8 26. Nc4 Bxc4
27. bxc4 Qc7 28. Nd3 Rb6 29. h5 Reb8 30. Bg4 Ra6 31. hxg6 hxg6 32. Rf3 Rbb6
33. Rdf1 Ra3 34. Qh2 Bg7 35. Bxd7 Qxd7 36. f5 gxf5 37. exf5 Rxd3 38. Rxd3
Bxe5 39. Qh5 Bf6 40. Rd2 d3 41. Qg4+ Kf8 42. Qe4 Qd4+ 43. Qxd4 Bxd4+ 44.
Kg2 1-0
Parent - - By Venator (Silver) [nl] Date 2017-09-26 16:42
I merge all KI testsuites in one and run tournament.

That's 6 times 50 positions, 300 in total. You are really playing a match of 600 games!?
Parent - By Lazy Frank (***) [gb] Date 2017-09-26 23:42
No, i leave to GUI choose random. That was example of one game.
Parent - - By Lazy Frank (***) [gb] Date 2017-09-27 11:35
Actually i run tournament not to determine which one engine is stronger, but to see how good/bad engines understand KI (especially Mar del Plata) and their playing style.
And it's exciting ...


[White "Stockfish"]
[Black "Komodo"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. f3 O-O 6. Be3 c5 7. dxc5 dxc5 8.
Qxd8 Rxd8 9. Bxc5 Nc6 10. Be3 Be6 11. Rc1 Nb4 12. Kf2 Nd7 13. a3 Nc6 14. b4
a5 15. b5 Nd4 16. Na4 Nb3 17. Rc2 Rac8 18. Nh3 Bxh3 19. gxh3 Bd4 20. Be2
Ndc5 21. Nxc5 Bxc5 22. Rc3 a4 23. Bxc5 Nxc5 24. Ke3 e5 25. Rcc1 Rd4 26.
Rcd1 Ne6 27. Rxd4 exd4+ 28. Kf2 Rd8 29. Bd3 f6 30. h4 Kf7 31. Rd1 Ke7 32.
Kg3 Nc5 33. f4 h6 34. Kg4 Ke6 35. h5 g5 36. h4 gxf4 37. Kxf4 b6 38. Bf1 Ke7
39. Bh3 d3 40. Ke3 Kd6



[White "Komodo"]
[Black "Stockfish"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. f3 O-O 6. Be3 c5 7. dxc5 dxc5 8.
Qxd8 Rxd8 9. Bxc5 Nc6 10. Be3 Be6 11. Rc1 Nb4 12. b3 a5 13. Kf2 a4 14. bxa4
Nd7 15. a3 Nc6 16. Be2 Nde5 17. Nd5 Rxa4 18. f4 Ng4+ 19. Bxg4 Bxg4 20. h3
Bc8 21. Nf3 Rxa3 22. Rhd1 Ra2+ 23. Rd2 Rxd2+ 24. Nxd2 e6 25. Nb6 e5 26. Rb1
exf4 27. Bxf4 Be6 28. Nd5 Rd7 29. Nb3 f5 30. Be3 fxe4 31. Nc5 Rf7+ 32. Ke2
Bc8 33. Rd1 h5 34. Nxe4 Be5 35. Ng5 Rf8 36. Rb1 Re8 37. Kf2 Rf8+ 38. Kg1
Re8 39. Kf2 Rf8+ 40. Kg1 Re8



[White "Stockfish"]
[Black "Komodo"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. Nf3 O-O 6. Be2 e5 7. O-O Nc6 8.
d5 Ne7 9. b4 Nh5 10. Re1 f5 11. h3 Nf6 12. Bd3 h6 13. Bb2 f4 14. c5 g5 15.
Rc1 Ng6 16. c6 b6 17. Nb1 g4 18. hxg4 Bxg4 19. Kf1 Nh4 20. Nbd2 a5 21. b5
h5 22. a4 Nxf3 23. gxf3 Bc8 24. Ke2 h4 25. Rh1 Nh7 26. Qc2 Bf6 27. Rh2 Kf7
28. Rch1 Rg8 29. Qd1 Rg6 30. Qf1 h3 31. Ba3 Rb8 32. Kd1 Be7 33. Bb2 Bf6 34.
Kc2 Qf8 35. Nc4 Kg8 36. Ba3 Be7 37. Rxh3 Bxh3 38. Qxh3 Qg7 39. Nxb6 Rxb6
40. Qc8+ Bf8



[White "Komodo"]
[Black "Stockfish"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. Nf3 O-O 6. Be2 e5 7. O-O Nc6 8.
d5 Ne7 9. b4 Nh5 10. Re1 f5 11. h3 Nf6 12. Bd3 h6 13. Bb2 f4 14. c5 g5 15.
Rc1 Ng6 16. Nb1 g4 17. hxg4 Bxg4 18. Nbd2 Nh4 19. Be2 Nxf3+ 20. Bxf3 h5 21.
Rc2 Bd7 22. Qe2 Ng4 23. Rec1 Rf7 24. Qe1 Qh4 25. Nf1 Rb8 26. Qd2 Bf8 27.
Qc3 Rg7 28. Qa3 a6 29. c6 bxc6 30. dxc6 Bc8 31. Qd3 Nf6 32. Nh2 Be7 33. a4
Kh8 34. b5 axb5 35. axb5 Bh3 36. Qf1 Be6 37. Qd3 Nh7 38. Kh1 Ng5 39. Be2
Rbg8 40. Bc3 Bh3



[White "Stockfish"]
[Black "Komodo"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. Nf3 O-O 6. Be2 e5 7. O-O Nc6 8.
d5 Ne7 9. b4 Nh5 10. c5 f5 11. Nd2 Nf4 12. Bf3 g5 13. exf5 Nxf5 14. Rb1 Nd4
15. Be4 a5 16. bxa5 dxc5 17. Nb3 c4 18. Nc5 Qe7 19. a6 bxa6 20. d6 Qxd6 21.
Bxa8 Qxc5 22. Be4 Bd7 23. Kh1 h6 24. Be3 Bc6 25. f3 Kh8 26. Rf2 Bxe4 27.
fxe4 Qc6 28. a4 Kh7 29. g3 Nf5 30. Ba7 Nd3 31. Rf1 Nd4 32. Rxf8 Bxf8 33.
Qf1 Kg7 34. Rb8 Bb4 35. Nd5 c3 36. Bxd4 exd4 37. Qxd3 c2 38. Qxd4+ Kf7 39.
Qf2+ Kg7 40. Kg2 c1=Q



[White "Komodo"]
[Black "Stockfish"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. Nf3 O-O 6. Be2 e5 7. O-O Nc6 8.
d5 Ne7 9. b4 Nh5 10. c5 f5 11. Nd2 Nf4 12. Bf3 g5 13. exf5 Nxf5 14. g3 Nh3+
15. Kg2 Qd7 16. Nde4 Nd4 17. Be2 a5 18. b5 dxc5 19. b6 cxb6 20. Rb1 g4 21.
Rxb6 Qc7 22. Rb2 Nxe2 23. Qxe2 b6 24. d6 Qf7 25. Rxb6 Be6 26. Rb2 h5 27.
Re1 Rad8 28. Rc2 Rb8 29. Ba3 Rbc8 30. Qd1 Qb7 31. Bc1 Qa8 32. Rb2 Kh8 33.
Qd3 a4 34. Be3 a3 35. Rb6 c4 36. Qc2 Bf5 37. Kf1 Rf7 38. Re2 Rc6 39. Qd2
Rc8 40. Bh6 Bxe4
Parent - - By Venator (Silver) [nl] Date 2017-09-27 16:34 Edited 2017-09-27 16:37
but to see how good/bad engines understand KI (especially Mar del Plata)

Bram Mourik played two Mar del Plata matches on strong hardware. Here you can watch some games, really fascinating stuff:

http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?topic_view=threads&p=724345&t=64656

http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?topic_view=threads&p=726728&t=64820
Parent - - By Fulcrum2000 (****) [nl] Date 2017-09-27 20:19
Unfortunately the links to the PGN files are no longer working.
Can we still download those games somewhere, looks like an interesting tournament?.
Parent - By Venator (Silver) [nl] Date 2017-09-28 16:53
I don't have the games. Perhaps the easiest way is to ask Bram on CCC (or on this forum) if he can offer the games for download again.
Parent - By user923005 (****) [us] Date 2017-10-02 18:58
The records from your files converted to EPD records.
The first 600 records are of inadequate depth (below 36 plies) and hence should not be used for book making, move choices, etc.
Attachment: ki.7z - KI EPD records with analysis (113k)
Parent - By Master Om (Bronze) Date 2017-10-03 04:30
Komodo Sucks big time in KID. See how lousy it played as black.
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