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Up Topic Rybka Support & Discussion / Aquarium / Has anyone tried Virtualbox?
- - By pawnslinger (****) [us] Date 2017-03-29 18:30
I have been looking for alternatives to run Aq 2017 on Linux.  And one alternative that came up is running Windows under Virtualbox on something like Ubuntu.  Has anyone tried this sort of setup? 

In this day and age (with so much malware out there) running Virtualbox makes a lot of sense, even if not using Linux.
Parent - - By purplejacket (**) [us] Date 2017-03-29 18:45
I used to run Aquarium in the VMWare product (Parallels?  whatever it's called).  Windows 7 guest, OSX host.  It worked fine.  Eventually, upgrading OSX caused my version of VMWare to stop working and I didn't feel like paying to upgrade.  I expect Virtualbox would work.  In fact, you can get free Windows VMs from Microsoft, but they only last 90 days, so you have to go back to a snapshot every now and then.  Just install Aquarium and whatever else you like into the VM, configure it nicely, take a snapshot, and then as you go, save your important data to a file share on your host OS.  When necessary, revert to your nice snapshot.
Parent - - By pawnslinger (****) [us] Date 2017-03-29 20:40
Thanks!

Of course, Virtualbox has the benefit of being free open-source.

I am considering building a new computer, perhaps based on the new Ryzen chips from AMD. With ample ram memory and fast SSDs.  Running a flavor of Linux as the host OS, then have Windows in a Vbox... probably Windows 10, but Windows 7 and 8.1 seem to also be available.

The only real problem I see is the possible need for multiple licenses from Microsoft... but my research hasn't gotten that far yet.  At this moment I am studying a book written by a fellow who did this based on Debian (a flavor of Linux).
Parent - By purplejacket (**) [us] Date 2017-03-30 01:53
Yeah, again, you can go with those free snapshots.  I'm considering that option too.  I'm on a mac with SSD and have almost maxed out my drive.  So I don't want to install a whole VM just now.  Also, starting that VM every time, with the resource usage ... annoying.  It's more workable if you have a sizable rig, but on a small machine it's harder.
Parent - - By pawnslinger (****) [us] Date 2017-03-30 17:20
After experimenting with Virtualbox for the last 2 days... I had to uninstall it.  Perhaps when I build my new system, I will try VMware, I understand it is better.  Virtualbox had sound problems, but the worst was the NumLock stopped working, even in my Host.  That was unforgivable.  Without NumLock too many things become difficult to type.  I could live with problems just in the Guest, after all it is just for Chess analysis, but in the Host too... well, that is an automatic "no go".  So I uninstalled and did a System Restore... it had installed its own keyboard driver, and I had to rollback the system to get rid of it.

All is well now, but Virtualbox is gone.
Parent - By purplejacket (**) [us] Date 2017-03-31 02:20
Wow, that's hard core.  I've been fiddling with VMs for well over ten years, and I've never really felt satisfied.  Something always is a little wrong or onerous, or worse.  I'm surprised it isn't better by now.
Parent - By Felix Kling (Gold) [de] Date 2017-04-01 14:22
The biggest problem is a severe speed down when using virtual box or other vm software…
Parent - By mroh (**) [de] Date 2017-04-19 05:21
Iam using aquarium since 2009 (or something) exclusive in the virtualbox (and sometimes vmware, but I got tired of patching it for newer kernel versions). works very well for me.

I use my main engines on the linux host and connect them to the guest via some simple ncat scripts. (listen on some ports on the host, forward them to the engine and in the guest I ncat to that ports...).

Only problem are the engines that dont have a linux version. I ran them in the guest and pay the price of the speed loss with more time... (not sure, maybe it would be better to run them in wine and do the ncat trick again...)
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