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- - By masterchess (***) Date 2008-01-13 17:03
What is the best GUI to use to run rybka 2.3.2a mp 32 bit?   Is there any certain one that will make it run stronger?
Parent - - By Permanent Brain (*****) Date 2008-01-13 17:46
A GUI can not make an engine stronger.

What's considerable though is, which opening books can support the engine, in which GUI. Most major books and book formats are connected with the GUIs they are created for, each. Many engines also have own books independant from an interface, but not (yet?) Rybka. The extension of the main book file tells you it's format. For example: CTG (.ctg) is for the Fritz/ChessBase interfaces, ABK for Arena, BKT for Shredder Classic.

Another difference which may affect playing strength (but not much) is, that some interfaces have their own support for endgame databases and some others not. But Rybka can access the Nalimov tablebases anyway, and a GUI (only) support for tbs. or bitbases, like the Shredderbases, is only for database positions but not earlier during the search.

(To avoid misunderstandings, AFAIK the newer Shredder Engines can use Shredderbases in the search but that is not relevant for Rybka+GUI considerations.)

Anyway, I would chose the GUI by comfort, features, quality, and maybe price.
Parent - By masterchess (***) Date 2008-01-14 00:52
Thanks for the information!  I am just starting and help like this might not seem like much to you, but for me I can go onto other things to improve. Right now I use Deep Fritz 10 with Rybka 2.3.2 a mp 32 bit, and rybka.ctg.  But there for a while I was doing good, now I am getting beat a lot.
Parent - - By Dhanish (***) Date 2008-01-14 04:08
Ideally, a GUI should not affect performance of the engine.

But unfortunately, some GUIs are inefficient in passing on the required information to the engine, and this can result in poorer performance especially at short time controls.

Also, some GUIs crash more frequently, which is why I discontinued Chess Assistant 7 Light after trying it out. Anybody else with the same experience?
Parent - By Uly (Gold) Date 2008-01-14 07:55

> But unfortunately, some GUIs are inefficient in passing on the required information to the engine, and this can result in poorer performance especially at short time controls.


Yes, specially Arena; it has been reported that Arena steals time from engines that report the PV too often. Uri Blass had a big improvement for his engine Movei by not reporting the PV as often, due to this (But this "improvement" meant nothing at other GUIs, so it is a bug in Arena)
Parent - - By Gaмßito (****) Date 2008-01-13 19:10 Edited 2008-01-13 19:18
What the microscopic Mike said is right, though If I need to choose some GUI, I definitely would choose the Fritz/Chessbase interfaces. Not only are aesthetically prettiest but also the most comfortable-friendly GUI's in my opinion.

Although, we hope to see that the new Rybka 3 GUI can overcome all the other interfaces. Not doubt that it is really a very hard task for Convekta, but not impossible of course. We continue waiting..

Regards,
Gaмßito.
Parent - By masterchess (***) Date 2008-01-14 00:54
Thanks!
Parent - - By masterchess (***) Date 2008-01-14 01:23
You men are so far ahead of me knowledge wise, at 62 I will never catch up!  Like I once heard it said, "If I stand on the shoulders of giants I can see a long way."  Comming to this forum I have done just that. I have learned a lot!  After reading your posts about the GUI, I went back and checked my program and in Book Options, I had some way set it on about 1/2 strength. But I am up and running again. Thanks to all of you for your posts! 
Parent - - By Gaмßito (****) Date 2008-01-14 03:50
I am glad to see that our forum has been enough useful for you. And it should always be this way.
Really, when there is good participation, the benefit is also for all of us.

Regards,
Gaмßito.
Parent - - By richbell (**) Date 2008-01-16 10:57
Thanks for the info on Arena glitch. I didn't know that. BTW any idea is Arena still being alive? They don't seem to talk about release of 2.0 anywhere.
Parent - - By Vempele (Silver) Date 2008-01-16 12:39

>BTW any idea is Arena still being alive? They don't seem to talk about release of 2.0 anywhere.


Except on their home page. Click on News-Ticker and you'll see an interview from about a month ago.
Parent - By richbell (**) Date 2008-01-16 15:06
Thanks Vempele. I didn't get it first as it was in german. Read it now.  
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