The board IS the highest authority in the ICGA. The charter lays that out clearly.
Please stop implying things that are completely false. There IS communication between the board and the secretariat/panel. But the board DOES have the final decision-making power, the secretariat/panel merely presents evidence.
Not only didn't I know there was an appeal, I have not seen anything that even remotely suggests that anything other than Ed's emails have been sent to David, other than the ONE email from Vas indicating that he did want Ed to represent him. If you don't care what I think or thought, feel free to ignore it...
Lots of ego issues there. Probably explains why it is pointless discussing with you until we can get past the ME ME ME RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT problem.
Have you looked up the definition of "ego"? This is the exact opposite...
Man you got all the signs of it! Really obsessed by Vas.
A real narcissistic will of course deny that he is one.
>I do not know David's thought processes,
I know Jaap and David for 30+ years, they know I don't talk nonsense and during the conversation they never asked me for proof. The fact I asked Vas to ratify is because you called me a liar here creating doubt.
"They know you don't talk nonsense?"
That is all you have been talking. Your web information is and always has been a complete joke. Fortunately more and more are noticing that.
The link you posted takes you to a perfect example.
And Vas did NOT originate this, of course.
>Your web information is and always has been a complete joke. Fortunately more and more are noticing that.
So far the poll results speak against you, just one NO vote. You are invited to double it.
I can't possibly think of a reason why you would oppose an appeal other than being argumentative, extreme dislike for Vas, fear the verdict will be annihilated, you being wrong. Oh wait, that are already 4 reasons.
I have already told you SPECIFICALLY that I would indeed support an appeal. ONLY if Vas initiates it and intends to take part. Having an appeal with you speaking for him won't happen if I get a vote. Since he didn't ask for an appeal, logic would say he is not interested and will not participate. NO is the answer to that, period.
you mean this sort of logic and evidence?
1. We have not seen an actual appeal.
2. We have NEVER seen anything to show our evidence was wrong.
what kind of logic is it that allows you to see and not see at the same time? Schroedinger's logic? Turn the lights off logic?
Sorry, but you sound just like Ed. And JUST as dishonest.
Hmm, that's two people you manage to accuse of being liars in one sentence.
It is a civil issue.
But you're not very "civil", are you?
In a US court, you can retain an attorney or have one appointed for you.
Vas had no representation whatsoever.
It was clear that he was not going to get a fair shake.
It is obvious to all that Vas had no representation of any kind including any sort of voice to argue on his behalf.
If you choose to represent yourself, that is another matter.
I do not think that is what happened.
Vas could have easily spoken up. He had several invitations to do so. He declined. Story is over. Most likely never to be addressed again, now...
Right. Just like I said.
They broke open the bottle of prussic acid before they put Vas into the box.
Is it to be understood that Vasik Rajlich received no reply from David Levy regarding this e-mail?
This part of the below e-mail was a question being asked of David Levy. It was not a statement. The very next sentence in the e-mail only gives the reason for the question.
>could we have the final hearings in October or November?
From: Vasik Rajlich
Subject: Re: Open letter to the ICGA about the Rybka-Fruit issue
To: "David Levy"
Cc: "Larry Kaufman"
Date: Wednesday, March 2, 2011, 7:21 AM
I prefer to plead my case with the final arbiter rather than with the accusers.
Re. the schedule - could we have the final hearings in October or November? I'd like to prepare properly, and my schedule is very full until the first week in October.
David DID respond to that email. A lengthy reply pointing out that once the panel submitted the report, the clock would be ticking and he would have a limited time to respond. He suggested, clearly and forcefully, that it would be far better to join in the panel discussions rather than waiting.
Once we turned in the final report, David prompted Vas for a reply and eventually gave him a 30 day window to respond. Nothing happened.
He was prompted multiple times as the window ran down. Nothing.
Here is one part of David's reply to the above email you quoted, near the end of it in fact:
Finally, the time to plead with the "final arbiter" (the ICGA) will be when the forum discussion comes to and end and the Secretariat has submitted its report on the forum's deliberations, conclusions and recommendations to the ICGA. You can not set your own timetable for any of this. The analogy you should consider is a court of law, where the defendant is not the one who chooses the dates of the hearings.
Make a lawsuit and ask for money, on grounds of hurting Rybka name, sales and giving the author a bad reputation.
Its easy. You dont have to be on defense. Go on OFFENSE and make them prove in a court of law by law standards that Rybka is a fraud.
Then sit back and enjoy how easily everything will change and who will be asking for settling.
When you think you are the highest authority , you are playing God.
Edit: this part of the post removed by moderation. Such statements will not be tolerated.
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