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Well, I haven't seen an endgame that worries me yet. What worries me if it's those kind of positions that engines don't understand!
1. Nf3 g6 2. e4 Bg7 3. d4 d6 4. Nc3 Nf6 5. Be3 O-O 6. Be2 c6 7. Qd2 Nbd7 8. h3 b5 9. a3 Qc7 10. Bh6 a5 11. h4 Bxh6 12. Qxh6 Ng4 13. Qd2 Ndf6 14. Ng5 e5 15. f3 exd4 16. Qxd4 Ne5 17. f4 Neg4 18. O-O-O h6 19. h5 Nxh5 20. f5 Qe7 21. Nh3 Nhf6 22. Nf2 Nxf2 23. Qxf2 Ne8 24. Kb1 Kg7 25. Qe3 Rh8 26. fxg6 fxg6 27. Rhf1 Rb8 28. Qd4+ Kh7 29. a4 b4 30. Bc4 Be6 31. Bxe6 Qxe6 32. Ne2 b3 33. Qd3 Rb4 34. cxb3 Rxb3 35. Qc2 Re3 36. Nd4 Qxe4 37. Nxc6 Qxc2+ 38. Kxc2 Ng7
1. Nf3 g6 2. e4 Bg7 3. d4 d6 4. Nc3 Nf6 5. Be3 O-O 6. Be2 c6 7. Qd2 Nbd7 8. h3 b5 9. a3 Qc7 10. Bh6 a5 11. h4 Bxh6 12. Qxh6 Ng4 13. Qd2 Ndf6 14. Ng5 e5 15. f3 exd4 16. Qxd4 Ne5 17. f4 Neg4 18. O-O-O h6 19. h5 Nxh5 20. f5 Qe7 21. Nh3 Nhf6 22. Nf2 Nxf2 23. Qxf2 Ne8 24. Kb1 Kg7 25. Qe3 Rh8 26. fxg6 fxg6 27. Rhf1 Rb8 28. Qd4+ Kh7 29. a4 b4 30. Bc4 Be6 31. Bxe6 Qxe6 32. Ne2 b3 33. Qd3 Rb4 34. cxb3 Rxb3 35. Qc2 Re3 36. Nd4 Qxe4 37. Nxc6 Qxc2+ 38. Kxc2 Ng7
7r/6nk/2Np2pp/p7/P7/4r3/1PK3P1/3R1R2 w - -
I think you provided perfect defense till now and it will be difficult (and most likely impossible versus best-play) for white to prove here at least something or in the end anything , but i can guarantee you i will play this game in the spirit of my chess-buddy Uly "as if this game was the final one of the WBCCC"! Unlike most other corr-games, which would have given drawn way before, a slim flame is flickering in the wind... and that's a lot given all the "good moves" i thought to have which disappeared into nothing.
39. Rxd6 *
, but i can guarantee you i will play this game in the spirit of my chess-buddy Uly "as if this game was the final one of the WBCCC"! Unlike most other corr-games, which would have given drawn way before, a slim flame is flickering in the wind... and that's a lot given all the "good moves" i thought to have which disappeared into nothing.39. Rxd6 *
7r/6nk/2NR2pp/p7/P7/4r3/1PK3P1/5R2 b - - 0 39
Thanks! I've got to say that if the papers were reversed, I couldn't have given you as much trouble as you have given me
And now, to put out that fire, Ponder Hit!
1. Nf3 g6 2. e4 Bg7 3. d4 d6 4. Nc3 Nf6 5. Be3 O-O 6. Be2 c6 7. Qd2 Nbd7 8. h3 b5 9. a3 Qc7 10. Bh6 a5 11. h4 Bxh6 12. Qxh6 Ng4 13. Qd2 Ndf6 14. Ng5 e5 15. f3 exd4 16. Qxd4 Ne5 17. f4 Neg4 18. O-O-O h6 19. h5 Nxh5 20. f5 Qe7 21. Nh3 Nhf6 22. Nf2 Nxf2 23. Qxf2 Ne8 24. Kb1 Kg7 25. Qe3 Rh8 26. fxg6 fxg6 27. Rhf1 Rb8 28. Qd4+ Kh7 29. a4 b4 30. Bc4 Be6 31. Bxe6 Qxe6 32. Ne2 b3 33. Qd3 Rb4 34. cxb3 Rxb3 35. Qc2 Re3 36. Nd4 Qxe4 37. Nxc6 Qxc2+ 38. Kxc2 Ng7 39. Rxd6 h5
And now, to put out that fire, Ponder Hit!
1. Nf3 g6 2. e4 Bg7 3. d4 d6 4. Nc3 Nf6 5. Be3 O-O 6. Be2 c6 7. Qd2 Nbd7 8. h3 b5 9. a3 Qc7 10. Bh6 a5 11. h4 Bxh6 12. Qxh6 Ng4 13. Qd2 Ndf6 14. Ng5 e5 15. f3 exd4 16. Qxd4 Ne5 17. f4 Neg4 18. O-O-O h6 19. h5 Nxh5 20. f5 Qe7 21. Nh3 Nhf6 22. Nf2 Nxf2 23. Qxf2 Ne8 24. Kb1 Kg7 25. Qe3 Rh8 26. fxg6 fxg6 27. Rhf1 Rb8 28. Qd4+ Kh7 29. a4 b4 30. Bc4 Be6 31. Bxe6 Qxe6 32. Ne2 b3 33. Qd3 Rb4 34. cxb3 Rxb3 35. Qc2 Re3 36. Nd4 Qxe4 37. Nxc6 Qxc2+ 38. Kxc2 Ng7 39. Rxd6 h5
7r/6nk/2NR2p1/p6p/P7/4r3/1PK3P1/5R2 w - -
> Ponder Hit!
You realize that you currently have taken around 30 times of my thinking-time in this "challenge"?
40. Rf7 *
7r/5Rnk/2NR2p1/p6p/P7/4r3/1PK3P1/8 b - - 1 40
Yeah, sorry about that, those days where I didn't take a look at the game at all are inexcusable.
Anyway, I just found one of those variations you're probably looking at, and realized any king of material imbalance is going to benefit you, so, now that I think I know what to avoid, things should get calmer.
1. Nf3 g6 2. e4 Bg7 3. d4 d6 4. Nc3 Nf6 5. Be3 O-O 6. Be2 c6 7. Qd2 Nbd7 8. h3 b5 9. a3 Qc7 10. Bh6 a5 11. h4 Bxh6 12. Qxh6 Ng4 13. Qd2 Ndf6 14. Ng5 e5 15. f3 exd4 16. Qxd4 Ne5 17. f4 Neg4 18. O-O-O h6 19. h5 Nxh5 20. f5 Qe7 21. Nh3 Nhf6 22. Nf2 Nxf2 23. Qxf2 Ne8 24. Kb1 Kg7 25. Qe3 Rh8 26. fxg6 fxg6 27. Rhf1 Rb8 28. Qd4+ Kh7 29. a4 b4 30. Bc4 Be6 31. Bxe6 Qxe6 32. Ne2 b3 33. Qd3 Rb4 34. cxb3 Rxb3 35. Qc2 Re3 36. Nd4 Qxe4 37. Nxc6 Qxc2+ 38. Kxc2 Ng7 39. Rxd6 h5 40. Rf7 Kh6
(As opposed to Rc8!?)
Anyway, I just found one of those variations you're probably looking at, and realized any king of material imbalance is going to benefit you, so, now that I think I know what to avoid, things should get calmer.
1. Nf3 g6 2. e4 Bg7 3. d4 d6 4. Nc3 Nf6 5. Be3 O-O 6. Be2 c6 7. Qd2 Nbd7 8. h3 b5 9. a3 Qc7 10. Bh6 a5 11. h4 Bxh6 12. Qxh6 Ng4 13. Qd2 Ndf6 14. Ng5 e5 15. f3 exd4 16. Qxd4 Ne5 17. f4 Neg4 18. O-O-O h6 19. h5 Nxh5 20. f5 Qe7 21. Nh3 Nhf6 22. Nf2 Nxf2 23. Qxf2 Ne8 24. Kb1 Kg7 25. Qe3 Rh8 26. fxg6 fxg6 27. Rhf1 Rb8 28. Qd4+ Kh7 29. a4 b4 30. Bc4 Be6 31. Bxe6 Qxe6 32. Ne2 b3 33. Qd3 Rb4 34. cxb3 Rxb3 35. Qc2 Re3 36. Nd4 Qxe4 37. Nxc6 Qxc2+ 38. Kxc2 Ng7 39. Rxd6 h5 40. Rf7 Kh6
7r/5Rn1/2NR2pk/p6p/P7/4r3/1PK3P1/8 w - -
(As opposed to Rc8!?)
> Yeah, sorry about that, those days where I didn't take a look at the game at all are inexcusable.
Oh no worry, i was just refering to your extensive usage of the term "Ponder Hit[!]" while you don't offer the simplest conditionals (i can't imagine Scott, Paul or someoneelse giving here no conditional as the two other alternatives mate in 6 or 7)... and i'm pretty sure you worked the whole week on this position just because i have given a "!".
Now i'm a little stuck in the middle: I explicitely asked for the best line in this position - and obviously time->infinite is good in any case, on the other side a Armageddon-match - where your restrictions were the (as i thought) difficult given postion and mine my 60sec-click-through-position-analysis-approach - should be normally played with a similar time-usage (indeed in FIDE Armageddon-matches black has even less time (5min to 4min) with white the opening-advantage and black the draw-odds) because obviously everything else just "tweaks&waters the challenge" to someones advantage - so i see it more as a very good analysis-game (again your sensible choice of Ng7/h5/Kh6 is very good) which i most likely have difficulty with to win and learnt that only a strict time-control can keep corr-chess alive. 41. Nxa5 *
7r/5Rn1/3R2pk/N6p/P7/4r3/1PK3P1/8 b - - 0 41
> i'm pretty sure you worked the whole week on this position just because i have given a "!"
No, I spent less than a day for that move, and that's why I'm apologizing, had I checked the game, I'd have played that move in the same day, but I didn't check the game in that week.
By Ponder Hit I just mean you played the move I expected and my move is clear enough that I'm playing it without further check, a "0 thought" move, though of course the though had happened since previous positions
Anyway, Ponder Hit!
1. Nf3 g6 2. e4 Bg7 3. d4 d6 4. Nc3 Nf6 5. Be3 O-O 6. Be2 c6 7. Qd2 Nbd7 8. h3 b5 9. a3 Qc7 10. Bh6 a5 11. h4 Bxh6 12. Qxh6 Ng4 13. Qd2 Ndf6 14. Ng5 e5 15. f3 exd4 16. Qxd4 Ne5 17. f4 Neg4 18. O-O-O h6 19. h5 Nxh5 20. f5 Qe7 21. Nh3 Nhf6 22. Nf2 Nxf2 23. Qxf2 Ne8 24. Kb1 Kg7 25. Qe3 Rh8 26. fxg6 fxg6 27. Rhf1 Rb8 28. Qd4+ Kh7 29. a4 b4 30. Bc4 Be6 31. Bxe6 Qxe6 32. Ne2 b3 33. Qd3 Rb4 34. cxb3 Rxb3 35. Qc2 Re3 36. Nd4 Qxe4 37. Nxc6 Qxc2+ 38. Kxc2 Ng7 39. Rxd6 h5 40. Rf7 Kh6 41. Nxa5 Rc8+
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42. Rc6 *
2r5/5Rn1/2R3pk/N6p/P7/4r3/1PK3P1/8 b - - 2 42
Oh, wow! Antares! Welcome back! I had given up any hope that this game was going to continue! It's a great surprise to see you making a move
I'll be honest and say that I no longer remember what this game was about - I hope it's not one of those games where "the game was mostly on my head" so a game continuations means basically starting from scratch with the analysis that I have
I'll be honest and say that I no longer remember what this game was about
- I hope it's not one of those games where "the game was mostly on my head" so a game continuations means basically starting from scratch with the analysis that I have
Anyway, it turns out I wasn't expecting Rc6 at all, so it was starting from scratch anyway - if you still have a winning plan I'd like to hear about it, but otherwise, I'm sending this offer already.
1. Nf3 g6 2. e4 Bg7 3. d4 d6 4. Nc3 Nf6 5. Be3 O-O 6. Be2 c6 7. Qd2 Nbd7 8. h3 b5 9. a3 Qc7 10. Bh6 a5 11. h4 Bxh6 12. Qxh6 Ng4 13. Qd2 Ndf6 14. Ng5 e5 15. f3 exd4 16. Qxd4 Ne5 17. f4 Neg4 18. O-O-O h6 19. h5 Nxh5 20. f5 Qe7 21. Nh3 Nhf6 22. Nf2 Nxf2 23. Qxf2 Ne8 24. Kb1 Kg7 25. Qe3 Rh8 26. fxg6 fxg6 27. Rhf1 Rb8 28. Qd4+ Kh7 29. a4 b4 30. Bc4 Be6 31. Bxe6 Qxe6 32. Ne2 b3 33. Qd3 Rb4 34. cxb3 Rxb3 35. Qc2 Re3 36. Nd4 Qxe4 37. Nxc6 Qxc2+ 38. Kxc2 Ng7 39. Rxd6 h5 40. Rf7 Kh6 41. Nxa5 Rc8+ 42. Rc6 Re2+ {Draw offer.}
- if you still have a winning plan I'd like to hear about it, but otherwise, I'm sending this offer already.1. Nf3 g6 2. e4 Bg7 3. d4 d6 4. Nc3 Nf6 5. Be3 O-O 6. Be2 c6 7. Qd2 Nbd7 8. h3 b5 9. a3 Qc7 10. Bh6 a5 11. h4 Bxh6 12. Qxh6 Ng4 13. Qd2 Ndf6 14. Ng5 e5 15. f3 exd4 16. Qxd4 Ne5 17. f4 Neg4 18. O-O-O h6 19. h5 Nxh5 20. f5 Qe7 21. Nh3 Nhf6 22. Nf2 Nxf2 23. Qxf2 Ne8 24. Kb1 Kg7 25. Qe3 Rh8 26. fxg6 fxg6 27. Rhf1 Rb8 28. Qd4+ Kh7 29. a4 b4 30. Bc4 Be6 31. Bxe6 Qxe6 32. Ne2 b3 33. Qd3 Rb4 34. cxb3 Rxb3 35. Qc2 Re3 36. Nd4 Qxe4 37. Nxc6 Qxc2+ 38. Kxc2 Ng7 39. Rxd6 h5 40. Rf7 Kh6 41. Nxa5 Rc8+ 42. Rc6 Re2+ {Draw offer.}
2r5/5Rn1/2R3pk/N6p/P7/4r3/1PK3P1/8 b - -
Well yes, indeed there seems to be no currently known way (maybe quantal computers or FinalGen Version 297.83 will give us new insights) to convert this one pawn advantage to a win, so i'm accepting and congratulating *handshake* to a well defended game.
Thanks Antares, I went back over it, and it was a lot of fun! I know that you put a lot more effort and dedication than me into this game, and I really think you deserved the win, I remember I was still scared by many endgames where engines said were even but were won by white, but I think I can avoid them all.
*handshake*
GG, hope we can play another game in the future
*handshake*
GG, hope we can play another game in the future
> I know that you put a lot more effort and dedication than me into this game, and I really think you deserved the win
No, you played a perfect defense and therefore there was nothing to win for me, especially since move 21 i couldn't improve my play (and till move 21 i played blind into my previous analysis because it was the position i wanted
). I think disappointment in corr-chess already starts when one is not willing to accept a draw with white pieces, but given perfect play that's the way it is... In each case it was a lot of fun (to see some hope)! This time you have white pieces...
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