case 2/2012 “Rybka and ICGA” (complaint by Mr Vas Rajlich and Mr
Chris Whittington against the International Computer Games Association
(“ICGA”)) Procedural decision (preliminary request of additional
information). The FIDE Secretariat will communicate the decision to the
Apologies if the existence of the complaint to the Ethics Commission was already mentioned somewhere, but does anyone have any more details?
My guess would be the focus is on the lifetime ban, which if the ICGA has to conform to FIDE standards does look harsh - compared e.g. to Feller being banned for 2 years and 9 months for cheating (although it should be noted that being banned from FIDE events for almost 3 years will have a massively greater impact on Feller than Vas being banned from ICGA events, which essentially has no impact whatsoever). It could lead to a pyrrhic victory though - if FIDE forced a lesser ban (which actually I think a majority of people on both sides of the dispute wouldn't mind) but upheld the ban itself that would surely harm Vas' reputation.
Anyway, that's all just speculation. It's worth noting most cases going before the commission appear to get dismissed early on, presumably for procedural issues.
Will FIDE rule on this? Is Vas providing his source code to them?
Hopefully we'll hear something more on this from Vas/Chris/Lukas.
> Is Vas providing his source code to them?
I guess providing source code to them is like providing Einstein's theory of relativity to a cow.
*) Having a strong source code at hand doesn't mean anyone can benefit from it, obviously. Available soon...
The biased inflammatory rhetoric made sure and precluded any chance of fairness-in fact, it precluded taking a hard and careful look at the data collected.
It was considered from the get go to be a far gone conclusion that Vas was guilty as charged.
Even Watkins in his postings -clearly suggests- looking for data that would incriminate- presenting the assumptions that would back up the going assertion of guilty.
And, I am sure that most of what Watkins did was done with all the honest intention of showing that the man was guilty- It was not done with the intent of just producing good science by taking a neutral position. He was, himself headhunting.
Very cool keep up the good work. As we all know you will!
> I do not think the purpose of the ethics committee is to review the evidence but just to look at the ethics....
Indeed and among other things you might start to worry how well your (and Bob's) language use will be valued by the ethics committee.
Jeez, what an imagination. I don't get intimidated very easily. Certainly not THIS easily...
> I don't get intimidated very easily; Certainly not THIS easily...
Man, you really have a distorted sense of self. If there is anyone on this forum who shows a great deal of intimation- it would be you!
The fact that you have based your arguments on premised assertions and not on fact- then treat those assertions as principled facts- shows that you have an unwillingness to let in any light that might end up changing your mind. You could not truly handle that- it would kill you; that idea, no doubt, intimidates the living crap out of you.
If someone even comes close to proving you wrong you go right into your repetitive mode. Ultimately, you end up contradicting yourself.
Good luck with that...
When (on what date) did ICGA become affiliated with FIDE?
This may (or may not) be significant if it occurred after the ICGA "witch trial" was already under way.
When (on what date) did the ICGA investigation of Rybka begin?
Maybe ICGA was not "obligated" to abide by FIDE ethics code at that time.
There is no ethical issue involved in this investigation, other than the ethics of copying the work of others and claiming it to be original work...
FIDE might not have a soft spot for Vas after his challenging them to keep competition open and honest.
But who knows! Stranger things have happened in the world of politics.
> (which of course the ICGA would ignore)
That, I doubt! Their reputation (?! wahuhuhahaha) is at stake.
I am sure FIDE would love to know what happened after the tournament ended in Mexico.
"It was a dark and stormy night; the rain fell in torrents — except at occasional intervals, when it was checked by a violent gust of wind which swept up the streets..."
>The Dung Beetle of Computer Chess. (Lukas 2012)
Do you enjoy insults to you?
try to make friends,or if you cant,buy some of them,and leave me alone,losser
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