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- - By Aggelos-Kefalonian (**) Date 2012-08-09 15:16
Where to find the last update of Fritz 11 GUI?
Thanks!
Parent - - By Akbarfan (***) Date 2012-08-09 18:57 Edited 2012-08-09 19:00
Parent - By Aggelos-Kefalonian (**) Date 2012-08-09 21:57
Thank you.
But need password.
Parent - - By ernest (****) Date 2012-08-09 22:32

> http://www.fritzserver.org/updates/gui11update.exe


Strange: if you look at Properties of this gui11update.exe (which is huge: 140 MB),
the "Version" indicated is 14.0.0.162
and the signature date is Sept 2, 2008
(while the last gui11.exe I have, size 5 MB, is from Aug. 10, 2010)
Parent - - By Peter Grayson (****) Date 2012-08-10 00:09

> if you look at Properties of this gui11update.exe (which is huge: 140 MB),
> the "Version" indicated is 14.0.0.162


Because the wrong link address was used. The correct link is ...

http://www.fritzserver.org/updates/gui11.msi

Any previous update has to be uninstalled otherwise the GUI will not work.

PeterG
Parent - - By ernest (****) Date 2012-08-10 18:16 Edited 2012-08-10 18:29
Thanks, Peter!
But then, what is the difference between your gui11.msi (coming from www.fritzserver.org)
and Akbarfan's gui11.exe (coming from www.fritzhelp.com) ?

And what the hell is that "wrong" gui11update.exe ?
Parent - - By Peter Grayson (****) Date 2012-08-10 22:46
The link was provided to me by Chessbase support after I identified a number of issues with Deep Fritz 11 in autoplayer. Not sure why there should be different links for certain updates but I always used the link provided by Chessbase support. The guiNNupdate.msi works for NN=10, 11 or 12. Have not tried 13.

I'm guesssing the msi is a microsoft installer patch standard that updates certain elements of the GUI. Again guessing but the much larger .exe file seems to be a full install and may likely require the disk key to be re-entered.

I'd like to know where you got the 2010 patch from as the latest date shown from the GUI HELP info shows June 3 2009 for the MSI patch!

There are some oddities with these updates because it seems the GUI10 patch that included the updated and bug corrected DF10 engine was only installed when update version 3 was released. Luckily I saved that otherwise as a number of people have found I may have been stuck with the buggy original version when I reinstalled after hardware upgrades - something to do with not using all cores if I remember right?

PeterG
Parent - - By ernest (****) Date 2012-08-11 18:18 Edited 2012-08-11 18:21

> I'd like to know where you got the 2010 patch from as the latest date shown from the GUI HELP info shows June 3 2009 for the MSI patch!


Well indeed, the gui11.exe, comes from http://www.fritzhelp.com/updates/gui11.exe
(I downloaded it in October 2010)
Properties say: signature date of Aug. 11, 2010, Version 11.9.0.0
It contains a ChessProgram11.exe dated Aug. 11, 2010 and Properties say: Version 11.10.0.0

While the gui11.msi, comes from http://www.fritzserver.org/updates/gui11.msi
(I downloaded it in June 2009)
Properties say: signature date of June 3, 2009, no Version number
It contains a ChessProgram11.exe dated June 3, 2009 and Properties say: nothing

To see what is inside gui11.exe or gui11.msi, you can decompress them with 7-Zip.

Maybe ChessBase can tell you more about this "latest" gui11.exe  :cool:  ...so you can tell us!
Parent - - By Peter Grayson (****) Date 2012-08-11 21:59
GUI11.exe ... First observation it was only 5.09 Mb in size and when install started it reported it was SP4, date Aug 2010.
Immediately visible differences ...
1. Replay arrows now a la Fritz 12 i.e. buttons - green arrows with blue retract scroll, previously black and red respectively.
2. Engine window stop/go button graphic larger letters and text colour changed to black from white
3. Lower screen/right time control indicates 5m/40 instead of 5'/40 for 40 moves in 5 minutes.
4.Pieces seem slightly better defined.

Much quicker start up in XP home edition but hash still limited to max 1Gb for all engines.

In XP Pro 64 bit it turned out to be a disaster; the exe updater corrupted the configuration and even after uninstalling all GUI 11 installs, a second attempt to update to SP4 caused a similar error. So it would not run. All GUI 11 installs had to be unistalled again and I reinstalled the msi SP installer and it worked OK. So it installed fine without issue in XP Home but messed up big time in XP 64 and I had to reinstall the msi update. Suspect it is a Vista/W8 compatibility update that, on my my XP 64 Pro system, fails to work.

PeterG
Parent - - By ernest (****) Date 2012-08-11 23:02

> Suspect it is a Vista/W8 compatibility update that, on my my XP 64 Pro system, fails to work.


Thanks, Peter!
So for GUI11 (I also useXP 64 Pro) , the best update still is gui11.msi (from June 3, 2009)?
Parent - By Peter Grayson (****) Date 2012-08-11 23:15

> So for GUI11 (I also useXP 64 Pro) , the best update still is gui11.msi (from June 3, 2009)?


Ernest,

Seems to be that way unless someone else finds to the contrary!

Regards,
Peter
Parent - - By Zsolt Kántor (*) Date 2019-04-16 22:16 Edited 2019-04-16 22:24
Hello,

please help me if you can. I have exactly this gui11.exe update for Fritz 11, 5.09 MB, signed August 2010. If I install the update for my Fritz 11 I'm getting the following error message in a window when I want to start Fritz (I'm using WinXP 32-bit Professional):

"C:\Program Files\ChessBase\ChessProgram11\ChessProgram11.exe
This application has failed to start because the application configuration is incorrect. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem."

I installed the whole Fritz 11 and the gui11.exe several time. But I keep getting the same error.
I don't know what to do . . . I like Fritz 11 even if it is old. And I saw that for you worked. Maybe because I have XP Professional and not Home edition? I have no clue. But I would like to make this GUI update functional.

Please help.

Thanks.
Parent - - By Peter Grayson (****) Date 2019-04-17 14:53
I still have a machine with Windows XP Pro 32 bit edition. The GUI11.exe link is still active. As displayed in the image, I installed the GUI11.exe SP4 installer and it works just fine in XP Pro 32 bit. Can you confirm you have the Chessbase Fritz 11 with the product key on the front of the manual and not the Excalibur distributed version that has no product key and cannot be updated?

Peter
Parent - - By Zsolt Kántor (*) Date 2019-04-17 22:03
Thanks for your assistance. I used the product key when the program required. The problem was not that. After some googling I managed to resolve the issue. This gui11.exe update requires the Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable package. I installed the package for my platform (32-bit) and Fritz just started without any problem.
Thanks again!
Parent - - By Peter Grayson (****) Date 2019-04-18 11:54
Thanks for confirmation.

I have Visual C++ 2005 installed in XP Pro 32 bit but not in Windows 10 64 when 2008 was the earliest. I installed both the 32 and 64 bit 2005 versions but to no avail. It still crashes the Fritz GUI 11 in 64 bit O/S. I am using Fritz 14 GUI 64 bit now.

Peter
Parent - - By Zsolt Kántor (*) Date 2019-04-19 23:26
Can you tell me how it crashes? What's the error message (if it is one . . . )? Also Windows has an event viewer. Application error records are also logged there.
Parent - By Peter Grayson (****) Date 2019-04-21 20:36
I was rubbing my eyes! I just reinstalled the GUI11.exe to snapshot the error message, clicked on the Fritz 11 icon and it has run up OK. It now indicates Aug 10 2010 as GUI date.

I was gobsmacked until I checked the Program installs and it became clear the Visual C++ 2005 64 bit had been updated after I installed it!

Best regards,
Peter
Parent - - By Peter Grayson (****) Date 2019-04-23 22:55
Having tried it on another machine, I can also confirm that the update patch is not installed automatically by the MS V++ 2005 download and install. The update only gets installed after a crash such as happened with the GUI11.exe install when Windows checks to see if there is a fix for the problem.

Peter
Parent - By Zsolt Kántor (*) Date 2019-04-24 13:22 Edited 2019-04-24 13:48
The update patch (I think you mean the gui11.exe file) is not something that automatically installs. This Fritz 11 update (gui11.exe, size 5.09MB) need to be installed manually. The Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable package from Microsoft is another thing. To clarify for what are those redistributables needed I will explain it here, hopefully in simple steps and terms. The Visual C++ Redistributable packages (2005, 2008, 2010 . . .2015...) are only needed when a program is developed by using some functions (the functions are usually in .dll files) which are in some versions of Visual Studio. To give you an example: I write a program with Visual Studio 2010 lets say. In my program I use a non-standard, Visual C++ specific function (because there are standard and non-standard functions, but this is another topic, I don't want to be very technical), which is bundled in that Visual Studio 2010 version (the standard functions does not depend on any Visual C++ Redistributable, the disadvantage of using only standard functions is the limitation, you can not develop such a complex program like Fritz only using standard functions). So, I write my program with one or more Visual C++ specific function inside, which lives in my Visual Studio 2010 development environment (there, in some dll file). So if you want to run that program and you do not have the corresponding Visual C++ Redistributable package (in this case 2010) the program will display an error message. Now, if you install the appropriate redistributable package the program will work, because redistributable packages contain those specific functions (in dll files that are installed on your hard drive) which are bundled in a Visual Studio library set.
The redistributable packages are relatively small in size 15, 10, 7 MB (or even less). You can see the installed size of such a redistributable package in you control panel add/remove program window.
In the case of this Fritz 11 update, the gui11.exe depends on some "special"/non-standard functions which are in the Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable package. Installing that package, the update will run.
Parent - - By Zsolt Kántor (*) Date 2019-04-26 17:50
Did you replied to my post? because I got a notification, but when I click on the "post" link it says: Post doesn't exist.
Parent - - By Peter Grayson (****) Date 2019-04-27 14:26
Hi,

> Did you replied to my post?


Yes I did but when uploading a complementing graphic the Website crashed. Yes, must have been me :grin:

I am still unable to update with the GUI11.exe on my second machine because the Visual C++ version 8.06 has not been installed. The original 8.05 and although a later version, the subsequent SP1 update I found from the MS site remains at 8.05 as can be seen in the snapshot along with the error message. Therefore the only difference I can identify between the two machines is the absence of the Visual C++ redistributable v8.06 that is shown in the graphic from my first machine embedded in my previous post.

I can run a repair from the DF11 disk and it works again including the June 3 2009 msi update but not the GUI11.exe.

Peter

Graphic indicating crash message after installing GUI11.exe
Parent - By Zsolt Kántor (*) Date 2019-04-27 19:56 Edited 2019-04-27 19:58
I had exactly the same error message on Windows 7 after installing the gui11.exe, and I fixed it. The error message says that you can find the exact error reported by Fritz in the Windows error log. Windows has an error log system where all the error messages and error codes are stored. Is somewhere in the control panel, Administrative tools . . . Based on that information you can fix the error. I don't remember exactly, and I don't have the time to make a step by step description with screenshots. I'm running WinXP, I have Windows 7 on another hard disk, I need to change the hard drives, and reproduce the error, and I will send you a step by step description with screenshots. But I don't have the time right now.

About the website crashing, I know, rybkaforum sometimes hangs for me too . . . unfortunately.
Just tell me what Windows are using where Fritz crashes? Win10?
Parent - By Zsolt Kántor (*) Date 2019-04-27 21:13
This may fix the error: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=35
Open the link download the DirectX End-User Runtime Web Installer, just run it, the installer takes from the internet everything it needs. After install restart the computer and try again. If the same error persists please tell me.

Regards
Parent - - By Zsolt Kántor (*) Date 2019-04-28 00:02
Your error probably comes from missing DirectX files. As I saw the screenshot you are using Win8, 8.1, or 10. The gui11.exe depends on older DirectX files. The mentioned end user DX installer does exactly that. For new Windows versions installs the older DX files, so older games can run. Don't worry, it does not messes up your DirectX subsystem, just fills the gaps.
Just install the end user DX and tell me if that fixed the issue.

Thanks!
Parent - - By Peter Grayson (****) Date 2019-04-29 09:37
Thanks very much indeed! I ran the SDK installer and that has certainly fixed the issue when after installing GUI11.exe the  "About Fritz" Window now shows Aug 10 2010. The Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable (x64) now displays v 8.0.61000.

Although the GUI11 has been superceded several times, it is in my experience the most reliable of the Fritz GUIs but the main drawback is the engine hash limitation of just 2 Gb for 64 bit engines. I subsequently purchased DF13 and then DF14 because the latter was a 64 bit GUI but both were plagued by directory handling issues that still remain in GUI13 as well as Autoplayer 232 issues resulting in its demise from the GUI. On occasion GUI 14 locks a database from having changes made despite running the final update Version 46.

Again, thank you very much for your help in fixing this 9 year old problem!

Best regards,
Peter
Parent - By Zsolt Kántor (*) Date 2019-04-29 09:49 Edited 2019-04-29 09:58
You are welcome! I also think Fritz/Deep Fritz 11 is one of the most reliable, the most bug free ChessBase product. Fritz 8 is also very stable (I tested old and new Fritz versions),  the newer releases 12, 13, 14 . . . have a lot of bugs. Unfortunately with these new ChessBase products, Fritz 8, 10, 11 is just history :sad:
Parent - - By sovi (**) Date 2019-04-17 17:20 Edited 2019-04-17 17:26
gui11.msi (from June 3, 2009)
http://rgho.st/6MWSGw2Qm
Parent - - By Zsolt Kántor (*) Date 2019-04-17 22:07 Edited 2019-04-18 06:55
Can you confirm please if this Fritz-Rybka update can be applied also for the Deep version of Fritz 11?
Thanks.
Parent - By sovi (**) Date 2019-04-18 17:19 Edited 2019-04-18 17:26
yes it is  (Deep) Fritz 11/ Rybka 3 Service Pack (backup the Chessbase/Chessprogram11 folder before "experimenting" with any CB updates)
Parent - - By Aggelos-Kefalonian (**) Date 2012-08-12 11:15
Installed the update from here http://www.fritzserver.org/updates/gui11.msi
However needs code while i I bought Fritz 11 without code.
I step cancel and enter in Fritz 11.
Does Fritz 11 however have the same dynamics or is weakened?
Parent - - By Peter Grayson (****) Date 2012-08-12 12:55

> i I bought Fritz 11 without code


The code that needs to be entered is the set of 5 numbers on the front page of the manual. If you bought the disk second hand without the manual and thus without the key-code then I think you probably wasted your money.

PeterG
Parent - - By Aggelos-Kefalonian (**) Date 2012-08-17 16:50
The disc is authentic. I purchased the Fritz 11.
Do you think I would have a problem with the engines I have installed?
Parent - By Peter Grayson (****) Date 2012-08-17 22:48 Edited 2012-08-17 22:50

> The disc is authentic. I purchased the Fritz 11


I do not doubt that but the manual has the required code on the front page and if you enter that then you should not have any problems with the GUI or installed engines from that GUI. Other Chessbase engines that were installed with an earlier GUI may require their respective disk to be inserted before they will work properly.

PeterG
Parent - By Charles (**) Date 2012-08-17 23:59
Do you maybe have the "not updateable" Fritz 11 version as told about in the below thread?

http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforum/topic_show.pl?tid=12182
Parent - - By Charles (**) Date 2014-02-08 19:24 Edited 2014-02-08 19:34

>The guiNNupdate.msi works for NN=10, 11 or 12. Have not tried 13.


Blowing the dust off of this old thread to ask if anyone might have the gui10update.msi file and be able to share it.

Though I did post in this thread back when it was active I didn't pay close enough attention to what Peter Grayson had written above or else I would have attempted to save the file back then.
Parent - - By Hurnavich (Bronze) Date 2014-02-08 19:57 Edited 2014-02-08 20:00
Hi,

Found this on talk chess does it help?

http://talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=50149&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=http+fritzserver+org+updates+gui10+msi&topic_view=flat&start=60

scroll down bottom of page i think there may be instructions on install.

At Your own risk always back up!!!
Parent - - By Charles (**) Date 2014-02-08 20:44 Edited 2014-02-08 20:52
Thanks. Those posts are about the gui10.msi file. The gui10.msi files are the regular periodic updates that Chessbase released.

In my initial post I wrote gui10update.msi file. I made an error in proofreading before posting. I am really looking for the gui10update.exe file.

I have been reading old forum posts on different forums and a lot of those forum posts speak to the gui10.msi updates that were released by Chessbase as having introduced new bugs or defects to the program, even the final released May 20, 2007 update.

I had never heard about the gui10update.exe file that Peter Grayson wrote about (I wasn't paying attention when he mentioned it) and no search engine that I have tried brings up a reference to it having ever been mentioned anywhere except in Peter Grayson's post.
Parent - - By Charles (**) Date 2014-02-08 21:08

>In my initial post I wrote gui10update.msi file. I made an error in proofreading before posting. I am really looking for the gui10update.exe file.


Akbarfan in his post at the top of the page wrote, gui11update.exe.

Peter Grayson in his post wrote, "The guiNNupdate.msi works for NN=10, 11 or 12."

Not sure now if I should be looking for an exe file or a msi file, but surely a file named "gui10update". :smile:
Parent - By Hurnavich (Bronze) Date 2014-02-09 00:15
Hi, 

Send Peter a private message he may be able to point you in the right direction

Or contact chessbase
Parent - - By Peter Grayson (****) Date 2014-02-09 12:08

> Akbarfan in his post at the top of the page wrote, gui11update.exe.
>
> Peter Grayson in his post wrote, "The guiNNupdate.msi works for NN=10, 11 or 12."
>
> Not sure now if I should be looking for an exe file or a msi file, but surely a file named "gui10update". :smile:


The SP3 update containing the Deep Fritz 10.1 corrected engine is an .exe file ... "setupdeepfritz10sp3.exe" but the final SP6 came as an msi file ... "gui10.msi". The links for the GUI10 and earlier updates are now dead.

Although the updated engine still showed as Deep Fritz 10 in the GUI, the updated SP3 engine file version number was shown as 10.1.0.0 as opposed to the original version 10.0.0.0. I found the updated version was only shown as being installed with the SP3 update so on my new machine builds I update the GUI with SP6 and just drop the 10.1 engine into the appropriate folder from another machine that works fine.

The msi file transports OK but even in zip format the SP3 file gets blocked by most ISP's because it is an exe file, however there is a workaround for that.

PM me what you're looking for and I may be able to help.

PeterG
Parent - By Charles (**) Date 2014-02-09 15:54
I understand now. Thanks for the clarification.
Parent - - By Eelco de Groot (***) Date 2012-08-11 02:07
A friend of mine has both Fritz 12 installed and a recently acquired Rybka 4. He was a bit worried when after changing the chessboard in Rybka also the board for Fritz 12 was changed, and asked for advice. He got a bit more worried when I wrote to him that installing more than one Chessbase program sometimes causes conflicts that can only be solved by installing the programs on completely different computers... Maybe I overeacted a bit and he only has one computer, so he was rather disappointed with my advice. Do you guys have any better suggestions for him to possibly cheer him up :smile: ? Could or should he run your link Peter with the versionnumber changed to 12 and update both programs? I am assuming here both use GUI No. 12 and that is possibly why the chessboards are not independantly changeable, and I remember vaguely that updating the GUI was important for Rybka ChessBase, but maybe I am mistaken about the version of Rybka, it might have been Rybka 3. Should he just accept the minor nuisance of the board changes in Fritz or should he go as far as just keeping one GUI where it may be possible to run both Rybka and Fritz as UCI engines from, to avoid further conflitcs between the programs? If he updates both GUIs to the same version, my guess is there should be minimal conflicts, at least I hope so...

Regards, Eelco
Parent - By Bob Durrett (***) Date 2012-08-11 02:59
My impression is that there is only one ChessBase GUI, assuming you are not counting earlier versions. For example, I have ChessProgram12. With that GUI, you can run any of a number of chess engines, including engine vs engine games.

I have never tried to have two or more copies of ChessProgram12 opened at the same time, so I do not know whether or not that is possible. Perhaps you could make a copy using Windows Explorer, possibly renaming one, and then run both simultaneously that way. I have never tried to do that and do not know whether or not that would work.

Bob Durrett
Parent - - By Peter Grayson (****) Date 2012-08-11 09:25 Edited 2012-08-11 09:31
Eelco,

I have the original Frtitz 5.32, GUI 7, 8, 9 10 and 11 all installed on my PC's and have not found any issue with that. A number of engines may be released under the same GUI release version for example GUI 8 covered 13 engine releases, Fritz 8, Deep Fritz 8, Shredder 7, HIARCS 9, Tiger 15 to name just some so if each of these were installed then any associated updates would have overwritten the earlier version. One possible issue is that it is important to install in release sequence. When I installed Deep Fritz 8 after recently purchasing it, I had to run the latest update to bring everything back to last GUI 8 update release.

So if the board was changed in HIARCS 9 for example, then all others using the GUI8 would be affected similarly because of the GUI commonality. Similarly with other GUI releases so if  Deep Rybka 3 was installed that used GUI 11, then installing the later release Deep Fritz 11 would update the GUI 11. Any changes made to appearances in Deep Fritz 11 would apply equally to Rybka 3 and vice-versa, again because they use the same GUI so that is nothing to worry about. Similarly then with Deep Rybka 4 and Deep Fritz 12 using the same GUI.

If you want the right start up graphic display for each engine then for earlier versions, GUI 8 and 9, the name of the engine should be added at the end of the shortcut for example ..."C:\Program Files\ChessBase\ChessProgram8\ChessProgram8.exe" -shredder
and the correct start up graphic will be shown. Later versions should add this automatically but if not just add the engine name as above. Space - engine name (but not number)

Important update for GUI 8 is the UCI.dll file. If this is not updated then UCI engines will run much slower particularly in the Playchess server interface.

It is possible to confirm which version updates are installed from the "Help...About" menu that will show the update date reference.

Only caution is as I previously mentioned. With the msi installer, previous update has to be uninstalled through the usual Windows route. If anyone gets into a mess with this as I did once, I ended up uninstalling both Rybka 3, Deep Fritz 11, reinstalling them and then updating with the latest patch. 

Edit: I should add that earlier Chessbase native engines run just fine in the later GUI's so the original Fritz 5.32, Junior 7 and Fritz 7 all work in GUI 11. It's actually better to use the later GUI's because the Junior 7 GUI had a problem identifying RAM when it exceeds about 1Gb.

Regards,
PeterG
Parent - - By Eelco de Groot (***) Date 2012-08-17 14:15
Thanks a lot Peter and Bob, for all the information! I passed on the forumlink of this thread to my chessfriend and I think he could learn a lot from it. It seems the changed board appearance for instance was normal and not a software conflict and there should even be a work around! I don't use my copy of the HIARCS 11 GUI a lot I don't think I even updated it yet so I'm not so well informed as someone who has all those ChessBase versions installed, and all on multiple computers!

Thanks!
Eelco
Parent - By suj (***) Date 2012-08-17 15:38
Eelco,

Best way to install multiple gui is have a common database folder and book folder called Database and books and have seperate GUI folders i.e fritz 10,11 and so on.

While installing the dvd install the gui section path to corresponding gui folders but keep the database and book folder common.

This will help preventing some files getting corrupted and boards appearing without any pieces on the board as this can be a common problem.
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