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- - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-08-05 00:29
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Parent - - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2012-08-05 01:31
Have fun Uly and enjoy our game! :smile:

1. e4 *

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Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-08-05 01:57
Thanks! Will do :smile:

1. e4 e5

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Parent - - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2012-08-05 14:08
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 *

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Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-08-06 06:49
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6

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Parent - - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2012-08-08 00:08
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 *

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Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-08-09 04:35
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d6

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Parent - By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-08-09 13:03 Edited 2012-08-09 13:07
Uly. a tempo-player.
Uly. a sacrificer.
I know Uly. Uly=Awsome # 1-0

( I mean symbolic. Not this, nor our game )
Parent - By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-08-09 12:56
Again, Uly is an offensive player who likes to counter-attack.
A master in zwischenzug.

Beware this where you have no opening theory; you wish to prevent symmetrical positions as black.
Parent - By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-08-09 12:49
Uly permits white to plan on f7
Uly is an active player who is not willing to give his Bishop c8 a late-future with the French Defence.
This advantage has Uly in shuffle chess, Chess 960, and the other ones where it applies.
- - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2012-08-10 13:51
Only after composing the PGN for WBCCC 2012 Round 5 & 6 i realized that you already had played a (single) Petroff with the white pieces, and only after browsing a little through the usual trash-talk of the corresponding thread i realized your motivation doing so now here with the black pieces... :evil:

(see: http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforum/topic_show.pl?pid=422422#pid422422)

> [ppipper: yes, OTB answer is of course the exciting Nxe5!?]
> Uly: Can you please tell me where I messed up? I never saw any excitement and could never find anything better than what I played, yet black seemed to have no problem reaching equality.
> I guess I just need to start playing the Petroff against strong opponents to see what they play against me...


While this approach at least has some attitude of cleverness, problem is:
- Antares isn't a strong player! :red:
- Antares always plays best in exciting positions! :razz:
- Antares is attracted by Nxf7 in all kind of positions! :grin:
- Antares never has done homework for others (yet a lot others have done for him :lol:).
- Antares can destruct the Petroff into pieces, yet he isn't sure doing so here in what is aimed to be just a friendly game. :twisted:

Therefore i will take a little time here (in non-holiday environment my analysis-time is limited to weekends anyways) and decide where to move my beloved knight on (btw., special greetings go to Gizzy!)... Have fun all! :smile:
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-08-11 04:52
Well, I'll be playing as if this game was the final one of the WBCCC, in where a draw would mean shared first point, and a win meant winning whole tournament, and I hope you do the same :smile:

I don't treat "friendly games" different than I treat tournament games where something is at the stake, so if you defeat me you'll be sure you defeated my very best.
Parent - - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2012-08-12 12:12
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d6 4. Nf3 *

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> so if you defeat me you'll be sure you defeated my very best.


Well, as your quote i copied above out of the game-thread "Uly vs. Barnard WBCCC 2012" stated- i'm currently playing Barnard and you against yourself... :lol:
Parent - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-08-12 15:16
Hah, if I followed Barnard all along you'd surely beat me :yell:
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-08-14 20:25
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d6 4. Nf3 Nxe4

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Parent - - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2012-08-14 22:22

> Hah, if I followed Barnard all along you'd surely beat me :yell:


Well, i think Barny has a pretty good understanding of the Petroff, so no worry... :smile:

Regarding my 5th move: Doubt that c4? or Bd3? is good for anything in corr chess, playing really for a win i would most likely use Nc3...

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d6 4. Nf3 Nxe4 5. d4 *

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Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-08-15 02:20

> playing really for a win i would most likely use Nc3...


Heh, I have the most analysis for Nc3 because it's the move I make in OTB play, my conclusion is black has an easy game because even without engines players don't have problems finding black's natural developing moves and the opening tension is gone. Then again, I've never able to find greener pastures...
Parent - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2012-08-15 10:15

> Heh, I have the most analysis for Nc3 because it's the move I make in OTB play, my conclusion is black has an easy game because even without engines players don't have problems finding black's natural developing moves and the opening tension is gone.


You described it perfectly, it indeed leads to an (opening-)game where engines -due their limited horizon and positional understanding- are of little help and one's own inspiration is asked... but it involves a hugh amount of human work & energy to build up on the slightest advantage there...

> Then again, I've never able to find greener pastures...


:grin:
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-08-16 15:32
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d6 4. Nf3 Nxe4 5. d4 d5

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Parent - - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2012-08-17 12:59
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d6 4. Nf3 Nxe4 5. d4 d5 6. Bd3 *

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Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-08-21 15:12
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 d6 4.Nf3 Nxe4 5.d4 d5 6.Bd3 Nc6

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Parent - - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2012-08-23 01:11
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d6 4. Nf3 Nxe4 5. d4 d5 6. Bd3 Nc6 7. O-O *

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Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-08-26 01:03
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 d6 4.Nf3 Nxe4 5.d4 d5 6.Bd3 Nc6 7.O-O Be7

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Parent - - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2012-08-31 19:19
Still following the Uly (vs. Barny)-line :lol: :yell:...

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d6 4. Nf3 Nxe4 5. d4 d5 6. Bd3 Nc6 7. O-O Be7 8. c4 *

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Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-08-31 23:33
So is this Antares Vs. Barnard or Uly Vs. Uly?? :yell:

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 d6 4.Nf3 Nxe4 5.d4 d5 6.Bd3 Nc6 7.O-O Be7 8.c4 Nb4

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Parent - - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2012-08-31 23:42

> So is this Antares Vs. Barnard or Uly Vs. Uly?? :yell:


Well, in each case it will be another contribution to global warming. :lol:
And staying in main-lines at least guarantees for games longer than 12 moves... :yell:

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d6 4. Nf3 Nxe4 5. d4 d5 6. Bd3 Nc6 7. O-O Be7 8. c4 Nb4 9. Be2 *

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Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-08-31 23:48
I guess this was to be expected, in my analysis I could never find a better white deviation, and could never find a better black deviation...

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 d6 4.Nf3 Nxe4 5.d4 d5 6.Bd3 Nc6 7.O-O Be7 8.c4 Nb4 9.Be2 O-O

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Parent - - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2012-08-31 23:55
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d6 4. Nf3 Nxe4 5. d4 d5 6. Bd3 Nc6 7. O-O Be7 8. c4 Nb4 9. Be2 O-O 10. Nc3 *

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Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-09-01 00:16
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 d6 4.Nf3 Nxe4 5.d4 d5 6.Bd3 Nc6 7.O-O Be7 8.c4 Nb4 9.Be2 O-O 10.Nc3 Bf5

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Parent - - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2012-09-01 00:19
Nice to see this game speeding up a little bit... :smile:, the "interesting" postions are still way ahead.

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d6 4. Nf3 Nxe4 5. d4 d5 6. Bd3 Nc6 7. O-O Be7 8. c4 Nb4 9. Be2 O-O 10. Nc3 Bf5 11. a3 *

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Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-09-01 01:30
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 d6 4.Nf3 Nxe4 5.d4 d5 6.Bd3 Nc6 7.O-O Be7 8.c4 Nb4 9.Be2 O-O 10.Nc3 Bf5 11.a3 Nxc3

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Parent - - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2012-09-01 11:13
These a3-moves sadly never bring me luck... :surprised:

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d6 4. Nf3 Nxe4 5. d4 d5 6. Bd3 Nc6 7. O-O Be7 8. c4 Nb4 9. Be2 O-O 10. Nc3 Bf5 11. a3 Nxc3 12. bxc3 *

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Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-09-01 11:33
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 d6 4.Nf3 Nxe4 5.d4 d5 6.Bd3 Nc6 7.O-O Be7 8.c4 Nb4 9.Be2 O-O 10.Nc3 Bf5 11.a3 Nxc3 12.bxc3 Nc6

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Parent - - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2012-09-01 12:01
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d6 4. Nf3 Nxe4 5. d4 d5 6. Bd3 Nc6 7. O-O Be7 8. c4 Nb4 9. Be2 O-O 10. Nc3 Bf5 11. a3 Nxc3 12. bxc3 Nc6 13. cxd5 *

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Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-09-04 01:15
Finally an Antares move! :lol:

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d6 4. Nf3 Nxe4 5. d4 d5 6. Bd3 Nc6 7. O-O Be7 8. c4 Nb4 9. Be2 O-O 10. Nc3 Bf5 11. a3 Nxc3 12. bxc3 Nc6 13. cxd5 Qxd5

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Parent - - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2012-09-04 10:00

> Finally an Antares move! :lol:


Wished so, sadly already seen since (chess-)stoneage. :yell: Anyways, it's just a little chess-move, but a big step into this DRAWalama... :lol:

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d6 4. Nf3 Nxe4 5. d4 d5 6. Bd3 Nc6 7. O-O Be7 8. c4 Nb4 9. Be2 O-O 10. Nc3 Bf5 11. a3 Nxc3 12. bxc3 Nc6 13. cxd5 Qxd5 14. Bf4 *

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Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-09-10 10:00
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d6 4. Nf3 Nxe4 5. d4 d5 6. Bd3 Be7 7. O-O Nc6 8. c4 Nb4 9. Be2 O-O 10. Nc3 Bf5 11. a3 Nxc3 12. bxc3 Nc6 13. cxd5 Qxd5 14. Bf4 Bd6

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Parent - - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2012-09-11 10:24
I kindly offer to sac my bishop for your queen! :surprised: :smile: :yell:

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d6 4. Nf3 Nxe4 5. d4 d5 6. Bd3 Nc6 7. O-O Be7 8. c4 Nb4 9. Be2 O-O 10. Nc3 Bf5 11. a3 Nxc3 12. bxc3 Nc6 13. cxd5 Qxd5 14. Bf4 Bd6 15. c4 *

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Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-09-14 01:57
Interesting offer, but I think the extra rook movements of my queen make it a bit more valuable :smile:

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d6 4. Nf3 Nxe4 5. d4 d5 6. Bd3 Nc6 7. O-O Be7 8. c4 Nb4 9. Be2 O-O 10. Nc3 Bf5 11. a3 Nxc3 12. bxc3 Nc6 13. cxd5 Qxd5 14. Bf4 Bd6 15. c4 Qe4

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Parent - - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2012-09-14 09:57
Oh, its said the queen even has additional bishop-moves too. :wink: My original idea behind 13. cxd5 was here to exchange bishops, but on a second look this looked to dry out the position too much... :lol:

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d6 4. Nf3 Nxe4 5. d4 d5 6. Bd3 Nc6 7. O-O Be7 8. c4 Nb4 9. Be2 O-O 10. Nc3 Bf5 11. a3 Nxc3 12. bxc3 Nc6 13. cxd5 Qxd5 14. Bf4 Bd6 15. c4 Qe4 16. Be3 *

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Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-09-15 02:33

> Oh, its said the queen even has additional bishop-moves too. :wink:


Hehe, I don't think my queen has more Bishop moves than your Bishop :yell:
Parent - - By Christian Packi (****) [de] Date 2012-09-15 13:13
Actually it has. It unites the dark squared and the light squared bishop. :wink:
Parent - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-09-16 02:10
Ohhh. Hey! That gives an idea for new half-queen pieces:

Dark Queen: Moves like a rook. On dark squares it gains the moves of a Bishop.

Light Queen: Moves like a rook. On light squares it gains the moves of a Bishop.

And of course:

Dark Amazon: Like dark queen, but on light squares it gains the moves of a Knight.

Light Amazon: Like light queen, but on dark squares it gains the moves of a Knight.

Since no engine supports such pieces, it'd be interesting to have OTB games with those :yell:
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-09-16 11:38
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d6 4. Nf3 Nxe4 5. d4 d5 6. Bd3 Nc6 7. O-O Be7 8. c4 Nb4 9. Be2 O-O 10. Nc3 Bf5 11. a3 Nxc3 12. bxc3 Nc6 13. cxd5 Qxd5 14. Bf4 Bd6 15. c4 Qe4 16. Be3 Rfe8

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Parent - - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2012-09-16 13:13 Edited 2012-09-16 13:17
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d6 4. Nf3 Nxe4 5. d4 d5 6. Bd3 Nc6 7. O-O Be7 8. c4 Nb4 9. Be2 O-O 10. Nc3 Bf5 11. a3 Nxc3 12. bxc3 Nc6 13. cxd5 Qxd5 14. Bf4 Bd6 15. c4 Qe4 16. Be3 Re8 17. Re1 *

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Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-09-20 21:54
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d6 4. Nf3 Nxe4 5. d4 d5 6. Bd3 Be7 7. O-O Nc6 8. c4 Nb4 9. Be2 O-O 10. Nc3 Bf5 11. a3 Nxc3 12. bxc3 Nc6 13. cxd5 Qxd5 14. Bf4 Bd6 15. c4 Qe4 16. Be3 Rfe8 17. Re1 h6

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Parent - - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2012-09-26 12:31 Edited 2012-09-26 12:37
Uly, my personal opening-book ends in this position, therefore i will need serious analysis to create my further plans which i hopefully have time for in the next days... will report back soon :smile:.
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-09-26 18:07
Take your time! :smile:
Parent - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2012-10-02 02:09
I moved left.
- - By Antares (****) [de] Date 2012-10-02 02:12
Sorry for delay, i digged myself a little bit too much into QID-analysis the last days...:lol:

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d6 4. Nf3 Nxe4 5. d4 d5 6. Bd3 Nc6 7. O-O Be7 8. c4 Nb4 9. Be2 O-O 10. Nc3 Bf5 11. a3 Nxc3 12. bxc3 Nc6 13. cxd5 Qxd5 14. Bf4 Bd6 15. c4 Qe4 16. Be3 Re8 17. Re1 h6 18. Ra2 *

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