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- By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-04-17 18:02
Solid King Safety

OR

King EndGame Maneuverability?


I have some Shuffle Chess game with Rybka, it's a Drawish Game in favour of Rybka who is the Attacker.

I have actually learned from Rybka the Double Pawn King Defense.
You have a Double Pawn near your King and you have one in Front.
If you move to there, you have very solid and Hard-to-Crack King Safety and you can Connect your two Rooks!.. For a Price.
What I mean is, I fear the Immobility of the King in the EndGame.
Often I find it so Dreaded that one has lost the Game due to the Immobility of it's own King, a King that cannot Reach the Center soon enough.

So here is a Question: Roughly said, how many Points should there be passed away due to WarFare do you want to Safely say: Now it's Plausible that my King won't be in too much Danger Anymore.

And, if you know something more around the { Solid King Safety or King EndGame Maneuverability } Case, please let me know!

Here is an Example made with the Tarrasch Chess GUI:

r6r/6pk/6pp/1P6/3N4/PP6/KPQ5/1B6 w - - 0 1


And a Note: Both Queens are still in the Game.
- By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-04-22 14:58
Sorry for the Double Topic Post. I did not knew that I did that until now.
- - By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-04-22 14:58
People why do not Reply?
Parent - - By Labyrinth (****) [us] Date 2012-04-22 18:13
I saw this but didn't understand what you were asking :-/

In that position I'd say white has the advantage since the g6 pawn is a goner, and the queen+knight can coordinate an attack on the g7 pawn at some point.

White's king is really super extra safe, and can always just play a4 if black doubles rooks on the a file.

>So here is a Question: Roughly said, how many Points should there be passed away due to WarFare do you want to Safely say: Now it's Plausible that my King won't be in too much Danger Anymore.


How many points how? In millipawns? I don't understand the question :-(
Parent - - By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-04-23 13:24
King Endgame is Strong if can move smoothly.
When let King being able to move Smoothly at the Cost of King Safety?

> The Points: Pawns:1, Knights:3, Bishops:3 and you know.


How many points taken off the Board before King is roughly said Safe to go out for the EndGame?
Parent - - By Labyrinth (****) [us] Date 2012-04-23 23:03
A raw point value is going to have to be overly conservative, as in very few pieces. Perhaps even what pieces they are, as in if queens are exchanged.

It is more important to consider positional factors. This is the way that both chess engines and humans do it.
Parent - By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-04-25 21:22
And what when you very doubt about the Positional Factors?
Then, yes then, the Raw Points value's over Conservativeness is useful to take as a Rule of Thumb.
- - By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-04-23 13:28
In General: The Example was obviously a Joke, more or less.
White is winning in an unfair way, that's self-Explanatory.

The only thing that's not a Joke in the Example are the Three Pawns next to Both Kings {''_''}
Parent - - By dragon49 (****) [us] Date 2012-05-24 18:44
What is unfair?
Parent - By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-05-27 19:45 Edited 2012-05-27 19:49
Joker-dragon49.
A Composed Position such unfair from Black's Perspective.
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