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This is the Chessbase Article:http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=8047
Vas has claimed to have SOLVED an entire opening.The opening is the Kings Gambit starting with this position:1.e4 e5 2.f4 exf4.Some 50 years ago Fischer claimed to have came up with a Bust to this opening.Vas had the HELP of a 3000 core Monster!Vas used IBM POWER 7 SERVERS with 2880 Cores! 16 Terabytes of Ram!I'm sure in some way Vas will implement this classification algorithm into Rybka 5 or test it on this IBM server.This could be a new direction in solving chess by solving the openings first and then attempting to create a Tablebase that chess engines can use for each opening solved (much like Nalimov) but solving an opening(or coming up with the best and or correct forced moves with perfect play) is a herculean effort and probably time consuming.The article is VERY interesting.
Vas has claimed to have SOLVED an entire opening.The opening is the Kings Gambit starting with this position:1.e4 e5 2.f4 exf4.Some 50 years ago Fischer claimed to have came up with a Bust to this opening.Vas had the HELP of a 3000 core Monster!Vas used IBM POWER 7 SERVERS with 2880 Cores! 16 Terabytes of Ram!I'm sure in some way Vas will implement this classification algorithm into Rybka 5 or test it on this IBM server.This could be a new direction in solving chess by solving the openings first and then attempting to create a Tablebase that chess engines can use for each opening solved (much like Nalimov) but solving an opening(or coming up with the best and or correct forced moves with perfect play) is a herculean effort and probably time consuming.The article is VERY interesting.
you know what day is 'April fools'?
Yes it looks like an April Fool's Joke,I did not think Chessbase would post an April Fool's joke
yes,it was an April Fool's joke...that pics were taken from other interviews that chessbase also published
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> I did not think Chessbase would post an April Fool's joke
They do it every year
, and they've gone beyond that, with metajokes like:http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=3014
Or holding "Believe it or Not" stories until it's April Fools, so people think THOSE are the jokes.
2009 was special, in that they published 3 real unlikely stories and the joke, so some people thought the joke was real* and the real ones were the jokes, while others thought Chessbase had pulled 4 pranks that year:
Ivanchuk creates a chess variant called "Kissing the Queen".
Kenneth Rogoff Professor of Economics at Harvard University talks about Economic Crisis and played a jewel of a chess game.
Chessbase releases Chess Training Supplements.
Senterej: An African chess variant where players can make moves without waiting for opponent's moves.
Audience reactions.
It's great fun and I like how this year involves our Vas and Rybka
*) Well, not exactly...
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It looks very much like an April Fools joke, but there is one thing that troubles me a little bit...it was posted april 2nd, not april 1st. Posting an April Fools joke on april 2nd is almost like cheating!
They have an excuse:
http://chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=8051
"So what did we do this year to throw the predators off our tracks? Well, publish the real joke on April 1st at 23:55h, i.e. five minutes before midnight – in Pago Pago. On the one hand we have lots of friends and fans in the capital of American Samoa, and on the other we have always felt sorry for the inhabitants of this Pacific island, which is always the very last place on earth to celebrate the New Year – or in 2000 to enter the new millennium.
Publishing the article when it was 23:55h in Pago Pago, however, did not override out content management system's fixation on European Daylight Saving time, to which it currently adheres. For it we had published the report on April second, and shucks to the Pago Pagoians and everyone else. Note that our previous stories, to which it attached the April 1st publication date, appeared when it was already April 2nd in New Zealand or Petropavlovsk (lots of friends and fans there as well)."
http://chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=8051
"So what did we do this year to throw the predators off our tracks? Well, publish the real joke on April 1st at 23:55h, i.e. five minutes before midnight – in Pago Pago. On the one hand we have lots of friends and fans in the capital of American Samoa, and on the other we have always felt sorry for the inhabitants of this Pacific island, which is always the very last place on earth to celebrate the New Year – or in 2000 to enter the new millennium.
Publishing the article when it was 23:55h in Pago Pago, however, did not override out content management system's fixation on European Daylight Saving time, to which it currently adheres. For it we had published the report on April second, and shucks to the Pago Pagoians and everyone else. Note that our previous stories, to which it attached the April 1st publication date, appeared when it was already April 2nd in New Zealand or Petropavlovsk (lots of friends and fans there as well)."
Or, in short, they blundered because of stupidity!
I'm not quite sure that there was any real importance placed on content in that article in so far as fooling the general reader.
The more focused attention and intent of the article may well have been to singularly focus on Vas' recognized computer programming virtuosity and skill ! ChessBase favored him over another programmer - they certainly didn't feel Dr. Hyatt would be a believable subject for the April Fools ploy!
The more focused attention and intent of the article may well have been to singularly focus on Vas' recognized computer programming virtuosity and skill !
ChessBase favored him over another programmer - they certainly didn't feel Dr. Hyatt would be a believable subject for the April Fools ploy!
I agree.
Chessbase continues to show that they hold Vas and his associates in the highest esteem.
While no mention of Hyatt, Dailey, Cipri,...
Chessbase continues to show that they hold Vas and his associates in the highest esteem.
While no mention of Hyatt, Dailey, Cipri,...
> Or, in short, they blundered because of stupidity!
I didn't see them being stupid about it. Perhaps, incompetent (smart enough to pull it out before it was April 2 in all the world, but unable to make it appear as April 1 on the page).
However, I recall they've pulled April Fools before in where the date shown is March 31, so as long as it's April 1 somewhere in the world, it counts.
I had been reading this forum for a while, and joined finally as it catches my interest.
I have read GM VAS article on chessbase.. nice one!
I am an average chess player, computer chess is way-out of my hobby nor I have any strong commercial chess programs. I was trying to analyze King Gambit Accepted - Burst! with a strong human player but end-up without any conclusion. I can appreciate if any one can analyze following two unfinished game by the strongest engine like Rybka 5 and post here where it leads to, whom does it favor? White or Black?
[Event "King Gambit Aceepted"]
[Site "Analysis"]
[Date "2012.04.03"]
[Round "1"]
[White "White"]
[Black "Black"]
[Result "*"]
1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 g5 4. h4 g4 5. Ne5 Nf6 6. Bc4 d5 7. exd5 Nxd5 8. Qe2 Be7 9. Nc3 c6 10. d4 O-O 11. O-O {Opening Development Complete}
*
[Event "King Gambit Aceepted"]
[Site "Analysis"]
[Date "2012.04.03"]
[Round "2"]
[White "White"]
[Black "Black"]
[Result "*"]
1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Nc3 c6 5. Bb3 d5 6. exd5 Nxd5 7. Nf3 Be6 8. d4 g5 9. h4 Bb4 10. Bxd5 Qxd5 11. hxg5 Nd7 12. Qd3 O-O-O 13. Bxf4 Bf5 14. O-O-O Qa5 {Opening Development Complete}
*
Thanking you everybody!
:)
I have read GM VAS article on chessbase.. nice one!
I am an average chess player, computer chess is way-out of my hobby nor I have any strong commercial chess programs. I was trying to analyze King Gambit Accepted - Burst! with a strong human player but end-up without any conclusion. I can appreciate if any one can analyze following two unfinished game by the strongest engine like Rybka 5 and post here where it leads to, whom does it favor? White or Black?
[Event "King Gambit Aceepted"]
[Site "Analysis"]
[Date "2012.04.03"]
[Round "1"]
[White "White"]
[Black "Black"]
[Result "*"]
1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 g5 4. h4 g4 5. Ne5 Nf6 6. Bc4 d5 7. exd5 Nxd5 8. Qe2 Be7 9. Nc3 c6 10. d4 O-O 11. O-O {Opening Development Complete}
*
[Event "King Gambit Aceepted"]
[Site "Analysis"]
[Date "2012.04.03"]
[Round "2"]
[White "White"]
[Black "Black"]
[Result "*"]
1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Nc3 c6 5. Bb3 d5 6. exd5 Nxd5 7. Nf3 Be6 8. d4 g5 9. h4 Bb4 10. Bxd5 Qxd5 11. hxg5 Nd7 12. Qd3 O-O-O 13. Bxf4 Bf5 14. O-O-O Qa5 {Opening Development Complete}
*
Thanking you everybody!
:)
>I have read GM VAS article on chessbase.. nice one!
vas isnt a GM,is a IM
and the article was a joke for the April Fool's day
also rybka 5 doesnt exist
so what are you asking,is impossible,at least with an engine that doesnt exist
read GM as IM and Rybka 5 as Rybka 4 (status or number does not matter to me).
Hope this time I am correct.
I am still looking for solution, not arguments.
Hope this time I am correct.
I am still looking for solution, not arguments.
now you are correct,but i cant help you,i havent rybka between my engines,so i cant fo it,im sorry
maybe one of the other members can help you
or you can download a free rybka engine at the rybka web page and try it yourself if anyone helps you
p.s.im giving you a solution,download the free rybka engine at rybka web page and try yourself
maybe one of the other members can help you
or you can download a free rybka engine at the rybka web page and try it yourself if anyone helps you
p.s.im giving you a solution,download the free rybka engine at rybka web page and try yourself
hi Barnard,
but i cant help you,i havent rybka between my engines,so i cant fo it,im sorry - it's OK. may be someone else here!
or you can download a free rybka engine at the rybka web page and try it yourself - it will not help me as my OS not Ms-WINDOWS.
I have tried analyzing same with two-or-three strong human player, but, as you know human mind has certain limitations.
Anybody?
but i cant help you,i havent rybka between my engines,so i cant fo it,im sorry - it's OK. may be someone else here!
or you can download a free rybka engine at the rybka web page and try it yourself - it will not help me as my OS not Ms-WINDOWS.
I have tried analyzing same with two-or-three strong human player, but, as you know human mind has certain limitations.
Anybody?
i preffer you call me Barnard
ok,im sure with that lot of poeple,someone will help you
yes,human mind has limitations,of course
well,time to go to bed
ok,im sure with that lot of poeple,someone will help you
yes,human mind has limitations,of course
well,time to go to bed
Busting the King's Gambit! It was really funny for me.
It was really funny for me.
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jesus christ, I was so naive, I believed in this story.
They know nothing of chess.
For people that can't get enough out of this, there was a sister thread at Talkchess:
http://talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=43129&postdays=0&postorder=asc&topic_view=&start=0
I think the funniest thing out of this for me was this:
"A further article should refute this one because Be2[] loses based on an underpromotion"
Miguel A. Ballicora
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http://talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=43129&postdays=0&postorder=asc&topic_view=&start=0
I think the funniest thing out of this for me was this:
"A further article should refute this one because Be2[] loses based on an underpromotion
"Miguel A. Ballicora
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they need to make a variant where you can't capture an enemy piece until you have 3 pieces eyeing that particular piece's square. LOL I actually think it would make me a stronger player in regular chess.
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