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- - By Yankovich_Sergey (*) Date 2012-01-13 18:04
I created Chess EndGame Analyzer, and generator of 3-4-5-6-7-chessman tablebases. Version 4.
(29 march 2011) For download -
http://generatorchess.com/
Format - DTM, 7-chessman tablebases can be generated using 4 GB of memory (maximum - 8 GB memory required).
chessdll.dll allows to address to bases (.tby).
 
Description of  Retrospective_Chess_Generator4. This application generates tablebases for chess endgames.
By default generated bases are stored in  /Bases folder.
 
Description of ChessDLL.dll.
This project is created to make it possible to use generated tablebases for other programs.
 
Description of RetroChess3.
This is a chess program. Allows to analyze and search for chess positions in endgame if the corresponding
tablebase is available. The program plays from any position even if there is no tablebase, but it's not
strong, since it's been developed as a shell for endgames tablebases. Current version doesn't have a well
optimized evaluation function.
 
(read the "Help_English.txt")
 
Yankovich Sergey.
Parent - - By Nelson Hernandez (Gold) Date 2012-01-14 01:26
How many TB of storage would you suppose a complete set of 7-man tables would require?  About 50?

Seems obviously something that ought to go on a cloud.
Parent - By Yankovich_Sergey (*) Date 2012-01-16 03:42
we all do not need, for example 7_KQQQQQ-K is not required. Enough to create the most useful, for example, 7_KRPP-KRP.
Parent - - By Gambit-man (**) Date 2012-01-17 08:40
how do i use this? i don't seem to be able to do anything with it:confused:
Parent - - By Vempele (Silver) Date 2012-01-17 08:48
What happens when you run Retrospective_Chess_Generator4.exe?
Parent - - By Gambit-man (**) Date 2012-01-17 08:55
i haven't figured out how to run it.
what should i enter into the field if i'm looking for r+p vs n+b+p?
Parent - - By Vempele (Silver) Date 2012-01-17 09:39
7_KNBP-KRP (it's close to the bottom, in the king+two pieces+pawn vs. king+one piece+pawn section) and everything it complains about being required (there must be a better way to select them all, but I don't know how).
Parent - - By Gambit-man (**) Date 2012-01-17 09:52
close to the bottom of what?
all i've got on the page is :-
"Enter result (2+2) :" [with an apparent search field]
"Chess EndGame Analyzer. Generator of 3-4-5-6-7-chessman tablebases."
[and a download button]
Parent - - By Vempele (Silver) Date 2012-01-17 09:57
Enter the result of 2+2, then click the download button.
Parent - - By Gambit-man (**) Date 2012-01-17 10:57
nothing happens.
i'm just gonna give up with it
Parent - - By Yankovich_Sergey (*) Date 2012-01-17 13:57
Your computer does not accept a file? Look in the settings of your computer or browser. All the file is downloaded.
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-01-17 19:38
Hi

just one question...in the text file,you explain that the tablebases can ne converted from one one format to the other using ChessDLL.dll;my 2 questions are:

   with formats allow to convert from/to?for example,from, *.tby to nalimov(and also nalimov to *.tby ??),to gaviota format,scorpio,etc...

   how i can do it?convert the tablebases between the different format

thanks in advance
Parent - - By Yankovich_Sergey (*) Date 2012-01-18 05:05
Why would you want to convert to Nalimov format? 7-chessman Nalimov Tbs is not exists, and Nalimov Tbs also can not be used programs.  Then why Nalimov format is better than my format?

My ChessDLL.dll is created to make it possible to use generated tablebases for other programs.
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-01-18 16:25
i would convert,for example,to create the tablebase RrppRrp with your generator,convert the tablebase to Nalimov format,and use it to analyze,and is an example,with HIARCS...but if i dont missunderstood your latest message,even converted to Nalimov format,programs cant use it,right?

and other question,im not a programmer,and i dont know programming,is there any way that i can use your ChessDLL.dll to use the generated tablebases in your format for other programs (HIARCS,Houdini),or it is must be made innternally by the programmer of the engine?

thanks in advance
Parent - - By Yankovich_Sergey (*) Date 2012-01-18 17:44

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i would convert,for example,to create the tablebase RrppRrp with your generator,convert the tablebase to Nalimov format,and use it to analyze,and is an example,with HIARCS...but if i dont missunderstood your latest message,even converted to Nalimov format,programs cant use it,right?

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Yes
 

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or it is must be made innternally by the programmer of the engine?

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Yes.  My program Retrochess can use files  ("KRPP-KRP.tby" and other) , or other program (for example HIARCS, and other) can use files tablebase, if  connected to files with ChessDLL.dll.
Parent - By Yankovich_Sergey (*) Date 2012-01-18 17:48
But if other programs have access the tablebase through some sort of Nalimov standart interface, then I can do the same for access to my tablebase.
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-01-18 17:52
thanks for your quick answer...

well,to conect to those files the work must be done to the programmer,so i wont be able to analyze with any commercial program using you dll...just one more question,if you have enough patience to answer me;to build the tablebase KrppKrp(just an example),you must have(correct me if im wrong),generated befored the complet 6 pieces tablebases,so to have in your format the tablebase KrppKrp,you previously have to generate all the 6 pieces tablebases,that in Nalimov format is about 1,2Tb(adding 20% in your format,about 1,5 Tb),im right?i must generate the complet 6 piece tablebase to generate the tablebase KrppKrp?or i can simply generate that endgame directly?
Parent - - By Yankovich_Sergey (*) Date 2012-01-19 08:37
All 6 pieces tablebases is not required. Required minor tablebases for KRPP-KRP
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-01-19 14:26
what are the minor tablebases required to build that example?3-4-5 pieces tablebases?3-4 pieces tablebases?

thanks in advance
Parent - - By Vempele (Silver) Date 2012-01-19 14:46 Edited 2012-01-19 14:52
KRP-KRP, KRPP-KR, KRPP-KP, KRP-KPP. You also need a few 7-man TBs (for promotions) that have their own requirements. Basically, any KRx-Kxx and KRxx-Kx and their 5-man requirements.
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-01-19 16:48
thanks for the answer...but that means generating a lot of previous tablebases to be able to generate KrppKrp :eek:
Parent - - By Yankovich_Sergey (*) Date 2012-01-23 06:27
6-chessman tablebase being built faster than the 7-chessman tablebase 50-fold.
Parent - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-01-23 22:22
sorry,i didnt understand you,what do you mean with that?...im spanish,so please,explain me it easy,thanks
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-01-17 18:26
when you press the download button,nothing occurs...nothing is downloaded,so please,can you explain how to download the generator to my computer,to generate the tablebase that i want,at my computer?

thanks in advance
Parent - - By nebulus (****) Date 2012-01-17 18:35
Did you solve the math captcha above before you hit download button?
Parent - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-01-17 19:05
i dont see any captcha,i only see the 'enter the result',the blank square,and the download button... :cry:
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-01-17 19:07
i think i overpassed my stupid maximum level...the 'enter result' is the captcha :red:

thanks for your help
Parent - - By nebulus (****) Date 2012-01-17 19:35
I actually overlooked it myself the first time, which I found to be quite fascinating from usability point of view. I think if he had moved the captcha between the download button and the text (Chess EndGame Analyzer...), it would have been easier to spot it.
Parent - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-01-17 19:40
agree with you...or added to it insted of 'enter the result','solve the captcha'
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