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Parent - - By Banned for Life (Gold) Date 2012-01-09 22:05
Don't worry. If you have gold (and the fortifications to protect it :lol:), the supermarket will bring the Doritos and Mountain Dew to your place!
Parent - By Vasik Rajlich (Silver) Date 2012-01-09 22:11
But they'll also be bringing their own machettes.

Vas
Parent - - By Venator (Silver) Date 2012-01-10 16:17
I don't think Doritos and Mountain Dew (what the heck is that!?) will be of great help in such an awkward situation...

I prefer the idea to go to a desert island, where there is plenty of food, accompanied by a few nice ladies, and watch the rest of the world struggling with their debt slavery, from which there is no escaping :lol:
Parent - - By Vasik Rajlich (Silver) Date 2012-01-10 16:57

> Mountain Dew (what the heck is that!?)


You must be joking!!?

I mean, really? :eek:

Vas
Parent - - By Banned for Life (Gold) Date 2012-01-10 17:30
Wow! And I thought the Netherlands was a civilized place...
Parent - - By Venator (Silver) Date 2012-01-10 17:40
On the Dutch Wiki I found out that only a few super markets sell it, in very limited supplies. And sorry, I don't attend to the Jumbo, C1000, Vomar, Plus or America-Today shops....
Parent - - By Banned for Life (Gold) Date 2012-01-10 17:49
Sounds like a barbaric place! Between that and people on bicycles trying to run you over when you are on the red bricks, would be difficult to live there. :lol:
Parent - - By Venator (Silver) Date 2012-01-10 18:58
No way, just a matter of demand and supply! You Americans do not want football/soccer, nor do you have great cookies like 'stroopwafels', speaking about 'barbaric' places :lol:
Parent - - By Vasik Rajlich (Silver) Date 2012-01-10 22:49
Jeroen,

do yourself a favor, drop whatever you are doing, and go get yourself some good ol' Mountain Dew. You have to at least try it. You won't regret it!

One word of warning, though. Don't get addicted. There are few things nastier than a Mountain Dew addiction. :smile:

Vas
Parent - - By Ray (****) Date 2012-01-10 22:52
Diet coke is my addiction. Having a free supply at work helps :grin:
Parent - - By Vasik Rajlich (Silver) Date 2012-01-10 23:11
You should be really glad that you don't have a free supply of Mountain Dew at work.

(I am really not joking. :smile:)

Vas
Parent - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) Date 2012-01-15 00:54
i travel over english channel a lot and whilst Poteen is illegal in Ireland its freely sold by P&O on their ferries,lethal stuff.
Parent - - By Venator (Silver) Date 2012-01-11 09:51
OK, I'll try. I probably have to ask the super market employees where I can find it and for some reason I believe that they will look at me like 'what the hell are you talking about'.
Parent - - By Vasik Rajlich (Silver) Date 2012-01-11 16:11
Then you can start singing the song Lukas posted. :smile:

Vas
Parent - - By Venator (Silver) Date 2012-01-14 10:04
No super market in Holland sold it or sells it, they don't even know what it is.... I asked 3 of them and they looked at me as if I was speaking Chinese....
Parent - - By Lukas Cimiotti (Bronze) Date 2012-01-14 10:07
As it's illegal booze a supermarket is definitely the wrong place to look for it :wink:
Parent - - By Venator (Silver) Date 2012-01-14 10:20
Illegal booze? According to Dutch Wiki several super markets have sold it, so it can't be illegal booze!
Parent - - By Ugh (*****) Date 2012-01-14 10:22
it's both. it's the name for moonshine in some parts of the world, but one of the drinks manufacturers also use it as the name for sugared lemonade.

obviously Vas refers to the sugary lemonade version as his favourite tipple ;-)
Parent - By Lukas Cimiotti (Bronze) Date 2012-01-14 11:40
In fact some companies try to make profit by using great names for their relatively normal products. An other example of this kind id "red biddy", originally cheap red wine with methanol added (ouch.. very poisonous), now they sell beer by this name.
Parent - By Lukas Cimiotti (Bronze) Date 2012-01-14 10:35 Edited 2012-01-14 11:33
Here's some more information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poit%C3%ADn
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonshine
Parent - By Venator (Silver) Date 2012-01-14 10:03
I have been visiting three large super markets lately and guess what: NONE of them sells Mountain Dew....

I found, however, this site:

http://www.candyonline.nl/Webwinkel-Category-350906/Hard-to-find-frisdrank-TIP.html?gclid=CLu7zL-Sz60CFQe-3godUy9llw

Disadvantage is, that I have to order 48 tins and there are 4 different ones....
Parent - By Venator (Silver) Date 2012-01-10 17:38
No joking! We Dutch prefer Bols and jenever, that kind of stuff.
Parent - - By Venator (Silver) Date 2012-01-10 20:02
Hi Lukas,

Rybka is allowed to play in CCT 14, when I read Peter Skinner's posting about it correctly. Wouldn't that be a great way of returning to the computer chess scene!?

I mean, the best way to slam down a lynch mob, is by showing it on the chess board!
Parent - - By RFK (Gold) Date 2012-01-10 20:22
Are you sure about this? Skinner made a public statement on Talkchess in July against Vas?! Has he recently made a statement that indicates a change in direction?
Parent - - By Graham Banks (*****) Date 2012-01-10 21:00

> Are you sure about this? Skinner made a public statement on Talkchess in July against Vas?! Has he recently made a statement that indicates a change in direction?


Here are his posts in order on the subject:

As is customary since I have been running these events, I will be personally emailing all the commercial authors asking them to enter. This includes Rybka.

If the majority of the participants welcome Rybka into the event, and Vasik chooses to participate, it will.

Then:

I was going to poll the registrants tomorrow, but it seems that is a wasted exercise.

No one who is currently registered wants Rybka to be allowed participation.

Lastly:

Rybka won't be entering.
Parent - By RFK (Gold) Date 2012-01-10 21:10
Well...it will give them all a chance to lose to someone else for a change!:wink:
Parent - - By Rebel (****) Date 2012-01-10 21:29
What a sad day.
Parent - - By AWRIST (****) Date 2012-01-10 21:36
I can only recommand that other tournaments will be offered perhaps with prizes. Then let's see the blackmailers from this moment...

Ed, please dont let these people torture you too much. What you've done remains to history. Thanks so much.
Parent - - By Rebel (****) Date 2012-01-10 21:51
Yep and thank you.

Vas is made the scapegoat for what many do themselves.

Said by Dann Corbit in his farewell speech.
Parent - By Graham Banks (*****) Date 2012-01-10 22:12 Edited 2012-01-10 22:18

> Yep and thank you.
>
> Vas is made the scapegoat for what many do themselves.
>
> Said by Dann Corbit in his farewell speech.


I have not offered an opinion on the Rybka ruling, but this is an aspect that I have concerns about.
Parent - By Venator (Silver) Date 2012-01-11 12:41
Vas is made the scapegoat for what many do themselves.

Exactly. The whole case in just one sentence.
Parent - By RFK (Gold) Date 2012-01-10 22:24

> What a sad day.


The tide will change -it just takes time. People have to sit with what has transpired and processes what they are seeing and reading.  Most are not brave and willing to go it alone and need the assurance of a support network. That is why you have been, and continue to be so important.  This is a process,dude! Buck up! :smile:
Parent - - By Graham Banks (*****) Date 2012-01-10 21:52

> No one who is currently registered wants Rybka to be allowed participation.


Well, after that statement, we did get these, but it seems the decision was already made?

Jon Dart (Arasan)
Well, I am registered and you didn't ask .. maybe I should care if Rybka plays or not, but I actually don't.

Charles Roberson (Telepath)
I don't care if Rybka participates in the CCT. Houdini can enter as well, but somebody will make a clone claim and then you'll be forced to ask for his code.
Parent - - By AWRIST (****) Date 2012-01-10 22:00
Grah, what do your studies tell you about juvenile delinquents, how long does it take them in months or years to work out on their prejudices until they become cured members of the human society again? wish you all the very best to down under
Parent - - By Graham Banks (*****) Date 2012-01-10 22:11

> Grah, what do your studies tell you about juvenile delinquents, how long does it take them in months or years to work out on their prejudices until they become cured members of the human society again? wish you all the very best to down under


You're probably in a better position to answer that than I am.
However, I'd guess that very few permanently change for the better.
Looking at stats which say that the great majority of jailed criminals will re-offend upon release and looking at how few members on either side of an issue will ever change their mind no matter what evidence is presented are good indicators to this trend.
That's why we have the saying "a leopard never changes its spots".   :grin:
Parent - By AWRIST (****) Date 2012-01-10 23:35
First of all we have a real VIP who extremely changed his view in all openess, in short you can call him Ed Schroder.
True criminals have no good expectency mainly because they are so habitued to the routines of evil.
Therefore we should adopt the old magic belief that we humans have a free will, that is so enlightening wheras the contrary is so dull and hopeless. The trick is we must spread rumors that everybody can change by a self-fulfilling prophecy. Social work isnt useless after all.

In our case problem I do believe that more and more members will understand and enjoy the beauties of a creative spirit. That is something David et al might have lost out of sight. I feared that when I read that Levy is now a true virtual sex doctor...:cool:

While Vas clearly is looking better in his new white suit, dont you think so? He's is looking so innocent!
Parent - - By Venator (Silver) Date 2012-01-11 06:23
Well, too bad....
Parent - - By Banned for Life (Gold) Date 2012-01-11 07:13
Have you even heard of these engines? :lol: The cluster would have to give them pawn odds just to make it interesting!
Parent - By Venator (Silver) Date 2012-01-11 11:51
I have heard of 'Crafty' and I think it would be interesting to test your theory!

Perhaps Lukas wants to play some exhibition games Cluster Rybka vs Crafty on my Core i7?
Parent - - By Venator (Silver) Date 2012-01-15 13:08
Well, finally I managed to order the lemonade version of Mountain Dew. No super market has it here, how about it in Germany?
Parent - - By Lukas Cimiotti (Bronze) Date 2012-01-19 13:05
I just came back from shopping food. They sell Mountain Dew here - not the real old Mountain Dew, but the lemonade :wink:
Parent - By Venator (Silver) Date 2012-01-19 16:10
Well, I must admit: it tastes quite good, this lemonade version!
Parent - By Venator (Silver) Date 2012-01-15 13:07
Guess what, 12 tins of Regular Mountain Dew are on my way!
Parent - - By RFK (Gold) Date 2012-01-09 22:15
I would suggest taking on this persona. The end scene is the way to clear a local super market.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
Parent - - By Vasik Rajlich (Silver) Date 2012-01-09 22:27
And if you want to go shopping for clothing, here's your protocol:

Parent - - By RFK (Gold) Date 2012-01-09 22:38
That is what I call - one stop shopping! :yell:
Parent - - By Vasik Rajlich (Silver) Date 2012-01-09 23:18
The customer service could be better. :cool:

Vas
Parent - - By RFK (Gold) Date 2012-01-10 00:19
Okay! Here is how you demand good customer service!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
Parent - - By Vasik Rajlich (Silver) Date 2012-01-10 08:11
You can also ask more politely:

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