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- - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-11-09 15:00
white to move.
Parent - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2011-11-09 17:10
ok,lets play!
good luck at our game mate,i hope we will enjoy it!

best wishes

Salva
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2011-11-09 17:10
1.d4

rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/3P4/8/PPP1PPPP/RNBQKBNR b KQkq - 0 1
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-11-09 18:29
1...d5
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2011-11-09 18:33
2.c4
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-11-09 19:04
1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6

rnbqkbnr/ppp2ppp/4p3/3p4/2PP4/8/PP2PPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 3
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2011-11-09 19:11
3.Nc3
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-11-09 19:19
3...Nf6
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2011-11-09 19:21
4.Nf3
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-11-09 21:12
1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Nf3 dxc4

rnbqkb1r/ppp2ppp/4pn2/8/2pP4/2N2N2/PP2PPPP/R1BQKB1R w KQkq - 0 5
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-11-09 21:18
because of move order,thought i would play a line i haven't played before.Vienna Var.
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2011-11-09 22:49
Paul,since we are playing for fun,if you want play some opening line of your interest,only tell me,we can play it before the game ends the opening stage
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-11-09 23:08
no,no.my 1.f4 was an experiment and i wanted strong players to take me on,which i got.first game was a draw.lets see how i get on in game against Uly,i forecast he will have a hard time, in present position,see game.

i have never played you before and from the way you play i will decide how good you are.
hi you may be as good as me or even better.i just did not want to play a game where in any way you could dig up a game of mine and play my own moves against me.

anyway according to book your position is rarther good,the fun is to see if you can hold it.this is the best way to test lines which are at cutting edge of modern theory OTB.

any top bookmaker will take note of this game because of unlimited time controls.at least i know 2 top guys who will.:smile:
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2011-11-09 23:16
well,i will put my best efforts to try to win the game,be sure Paul

and about bookmakers...im sure they will do...but that is good,because none of us will make a blunder,and every move will have deep analisis,so they will be able to improve with our analisis...they will give credit to our game Paul? :wink:
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-11-09 23:20
maybe maybe not.:smile:
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2011-11-09 23:22
we must claim our royalties about our analisis... :smile:
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-11-09 23:28
hi lets have fun,dont worry about anyone else.i intend to give you a hard time but unlike some others dont mind chatting about it as we go on.
Parent - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2011-11-09 23:34
true...
+100
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-11-09 23:22
none of us will make a blunder

christ i would not bet on that.:wink:
Parent - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2011-11-09 23:25
i can tell you that i made a few blunders playing correspondence ches...well,better explained,copying the lines,but at least,i made it...
one of them,made me loss the right to go to the final of the world championshiop of LSS...i have a winned game,and i made a blunder,and i draw the game...that half point that i loss,made me be out of the final round :cry:
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2011-11-09 23:04
5.e4

edited:
conditional,if 5...Bb4,6.Bg5
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-11-09 23:16
accept conditional.

6....c5

rnbqk2r/pp3ppp/4pn2/2p3B1/1bpPP3/2N2N2/PP3PPP/R2QKB1R w KQkq c6 0 7
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2011-11-09 23:19
7.Bxc4

  conditional:if 7...cxd4 8.Nxd4
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-11-09 23:49
accepted

8...Bxc3+
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-11-09 23:51
position gets complex in a few moves which even computer theory has not yet worked out.
Parent - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2011-11-09 23:57
yes,i know,so in 1 or 2 moves i will must stop playing as fast as now,and play at 3-4 days move as we agree

i tried,with the moves i choose,not play for draws,and play agressive and complex game and go into an 'unknow' positions...

i dont like the drawish games,i always play active,so i hope you will enjoy the game,whatever the result of the game
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2011-11-09 23:52
9.bxc3
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-11-09 23:54
i hope you notice how computer evals are dropping.
Parent - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2011-11-09 23:59
the engines doesnt understand that opening...they overstimate(from the side of the white),and after a few moves,the evals drops

same at the sicilian opening
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-11-10 00:01
1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Nf3 dxc4 5.e4 Bb4 6.Bg5 c5 7.Bxc4 cxd4 8.Nxd4 Bxc3+ 9.bxc3 Qa5

rnb1k2r/pp3ppp/4pn2/q5B1/2BNP3/2P5/P4PPP/R2QK2R w KQkq - 0 10
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2011-11-10 00:07
10.Bb5+
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-11-10 00:18
well we are still in mainline as you know.

10...Nbd7
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2011-11-10 00:26
yes,that is why i still playing quick...

11.Bxf6

   conditional:if 11...Qxc3+ 12.Kf1,gxf6 13.h4
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-11-10 00:41
now this is really becoming fun.On which square do i put my king. e2 or fi..this is great fun.
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2011-11-10 00:51
now is a wrong move 'Ke7'...(i mean after accepting the conditional move)

i suposse you mean after moving your queen,or atacking my bishop...it seems a better place 'e7',nearer to the center thinking about an endgame,but also with higher risk of an atack if you cant stop my iniciative
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-11-10 00:53
i meant your king i was thinking for you.:smile:
Parent - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2011-11-10 00:59
but Paul,at my conditional that i sent to you,is my answer...my King goes to the square 'f1'
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-11-10 00:32
although i have never played this lne before,i know the theory behind it.one GM says this is a real mess and unresolved.i hope to enlighten them and win the game.i am much stronger than any GM as i i have no doubt you are.As i said before lets have fun.
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2011-11-10 00:39
if i were a girl,you will make me blush :red:

hahahaha just a joke...im just a guy who try to improve my chess day after day

and of course,i also will try to win the game...win the game is the only way to know if i really had improved the chess knowledge

well,lets try with our game to give some light to that line of the chess opening theory
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-11-10 00:47
1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Nf3 dxc4 5.e4 Bb4 6.Bg5 c5 7.Bxc4 cxd4 8.Nxd4 Bxc3+ 9.bxc3 Qa5 10.Bb5+ Nbd7 11.Bxf6 Qxc3+

r1b1k2r/pp1n1ppp/4pB2/1B6/3NP3/2q5/P4PPP/R2QK2R w KQkq - 0 12
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2011-11-10 00:52
Paul...i sent you a conditional,and at my conditional was your move,and my answer...you accept my conditional,since your move was in my conditional,but you didnt answered to my conditional...
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-11-10 01:02
sorry without looking i take it was 12.Kf1

r1b1k2r/pp1n1ppp/4pB2/1B6/3NP3/2q5/P4PPP/R2Q1K1R b kq - 0 12
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2011-11-10 01:04
yes...and if you take 12...gxf6,i play 13.h4

that is the conditional that i sent you
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-11-10 01:17
ok i got it,its very late in UK and  i am going to bed.
Parent - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2011-11-10 01:24
ok,nite Paul
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-11-10 01:07
1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Nf3 dxc4 5.e4 Bb4 6.Bg5 c5 7.Bxc4 cxd4 8.Nxd4 Bxc3+ 9.bxc3 Qa5 10.Bb5+ Nbd7 11.Bxf6 Qxc3+ 12.Kf1 gxf6

r1b1k2r/pp1n1p1p/4pp2/1B6/3NP3/2q5/P4PPP/R2Q1K1R w kq - 0 13
Parent - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2011-11-10 01:20
Paul,i played at my conditional 13.h4
Parent - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2011-11-10 02:57
13.h4

it is my move,but it was in my conditional that i sent you a few messages ago...i resend you again,it seems that you didnt see at the conditional

im gonna sleep,tomorrow i must work
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2011-11-10 00:50
Go Paul! :smile:
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-11-10 00:58
thanks Uly its really is cutting edge according to others in this line at least what the theorists ssy,i dont yet see it myself and havent yet bothered to switch big hardware on.
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