Thanks for accepting my challenge and good luck!
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Ng5 Bc5 5.Bxf7+
Alright, it's my move, let me check something first
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Ng5 Bc5 5.Bxf7+
r1bqk2r/pppp1Bpp/2n2n2/2b1p1N1/4P3/8/PPPP1PPP/RNBQK2R b KQkq -
Alright, it's my move, let me check something first

Okay, Ke7 is the move I'm sure... and Good luck and Good game!
I have a ton of analysis in this and I have tested these lines before for practice. I wonder how I did?
Kf8 is a move too I see, I need to look this up again. By the way, I normally wouldn't play 4.Ng5, White gets only the smallest of advantages there, one of my chess friends, rated about 2000 (and with the ambition to play in a rated USCF tournament once a decade, I think), and I played quite a number of games in various positions here, Black is getting enough activity to mostly equalize in the critical lines.
I have a ton of analysis in this and I have tested these lines before for practice. I wonder how I did?
Kf8 is a move too I see, I need to look this up again. By the way, I normally wouldn't play 4.Ng5, White gets only the smallest of advantages there, one of my chess friends, rated about 2000 (and with the ambition to play in a rated USCF tournament once a decade, I think), and I played quite a number of games in various positions here, Black is getting enough activity to mostly equalize in the critical lines.
Yup. Ready!
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 Bc5 5. Bxf7+ Ke7
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 Bc5 5. Bxf7+ Ke7
r1bq3r/ppppkBpp/2n2n2/2b1p1N1/4P3/8/PPPP1PPP/RNBQK2R w KQ -
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 Bc5 5. Bxf7+ Ke7 6.Bb3
r1bq3r/ppppk1pp/2n2n2/2b1p1N1/4P3/1B6/PPPP1PPP/RNBQK2R b KQ - 0 6
Yeah, I was expecting that, that's why I took more time on the first move, to be better prepared

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 Bc5 5. Bxf7+ Ke7 6. Bb3 d6
r1bq3r/ppp1k1pp/2np1n2/2b1p1N1/4P3/1B6/PPPP1PPP/RNBQK2R w KQ -
r1bq3r/ppp1k1pp/2np1n2/2b1p1N1/4P3/1BN5/PPPP1PPP/R1BQK2R b KQ - 0 7
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 Bc5 5. Bxf7+ Ke7 6. Bb3 d6 7.Nc3
By finding a few clever ideas I think I can bust all lines, Qe8, Rf8, and then Nd4 being the most difficult if I recall correctly. I wonder if I will get to use them and if they have been played in corr. White's concern is Qe8-h5 in a position in which I've already castled, although I do not think I castle in the key positions. The key is how to make use the Ng5 in different positions.
Looking forward to those plans, you always provide an interesting game 
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 Bc5 5. Bxf7+ Ke7 6. Bb3 d6 7. Nc3 Qe8

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 Bc5 5. Bxf7+ Ke7 6. Bb3 d6 7. Nc3 Qe8
r1b1q2r/ppp1k1pp/2np1n2/2b1p1N1/4P3/1BN5/PPPP1PPP/R1BQK2R w KQ -
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 Bc5 5. Bxf7+ Ke7 6. Bb3 d6 7. Nc3 Qe8 8.Nd5+
This was the key move I had counted upon when I had played Nc3 and now Black will not get counterplay via Bg4 as is normal in similar Traxler lines. Novelty according to my books and dbs. I think that Black is already lost - White will stay ahead here in the ensuing play.
r1b1q2r/ppp1k1pp/2np1n2/2bNp1N1/4P3/1B6/PPPP1PPP/R1BQK2R b KQ - 0 8
This was the key move I had counted upon when I had played Nc3 and now Black will not get counterplay via Bg4 as is normal in similar Traxler lines. Novelty according to my books and dbs. I think that Black is already lost - White will stay ahead here in the ensuing play.
Conditional offered: 8...Nxd5 9.exd5
r1b1q2r/ppp1k1pp/2np4/2bPp1N1/8/1B6/PPPP1PPP/R1BQK2R b KQ - 0 9
> I think that Black is already lost
Curious because I can't see how white can make progress, looking forward to your shocker!*

Conditional accepted:
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 Bc5 5. Bxf7+ Ke7 6. Bb3 d6 7. Nc3 Qe8 8. Nd5+ Nxd5 9. exd5 Nd4
Conditional sent:
IF 10. c3 THEN Nxb3
*) I hope they're not my famous last words...
Conditional accepted.
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 Bc5 5. Bxf7+ Ke7 6. Bb3 d6 7. Nc3 Qe8 8. Nd5+ Nxd5 9. exd5 Nd4 10.c3 Nxb3 11.axb3
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 Bc5 5. Bxf7+ Ke7 6. Bb3 d6 7. Nc3 Qe8 8. Nd5+ Nxd5 9. exd5 Nd4 10.c3 Nxb3 11.axb3
r1b1q2r/ppp1k1pp/3p4/2bPp1N1/8/1PP5/1P1P1PPP/R1BQK2R b KQ - 0 11
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 Bc5 5. Bxf7+ Ke7 6. Bb3 d6 7. Nc3 Qe8 8. Nd5+ Nxd5 9. exd5 Nd4 10. c3 Nxb3 11. axb3 h6
r1b1q2r/ppp1k1p1/3p3p/2bPp1N1/8/1PP5/1P1P1PPP/R1BQK2R w KQ -
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 Bc5 5. Bxf7+ Ke7 6. Bb3 d6 7. Nc3 Qe8 8. Nd5+ Nxd5 9. exd5 Nd4 10. c3 Nxb3 11. axb3 h6 12. d4
I expected 11...Bf5.
[Event "Analysis Main Line 11...¥f5"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2011.11.04"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Schachmatt"]
[Black "Uly"]
[Result "*"]
[ECO "C57"]
[PlyCount "59"]
[SourceDate "2011.11.04"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 Bc5 5. Bxf7+ Ke7 6. Bb3 d6 7. Nc3 Qe8 8.
Nd5+ Nxd5 9. exd5 Nd4 10. c3 Nxb3 11. axb3 Bf5 12. d4 exd4 13. O-O Qg6 14. Re1+
Kd7 15. b4 Bb6 16. Qa4+ Kc8 17. cxd4 Bxd4 18. Ra3 Be5 19. f4 Bd4+ 20. Kh1 Bf2
21. Re2 Bd7 22. Qb3 Qb1 23. Qc4 b5 24. Qc3 Bd4 25. Qd2 Bf6 26. Ne6 Kb7 27. Rd3
Be8 28. f5 Bh5 29. Re1 Bg4 30. Rf1 *
r1b1q2r/ppp1k1p1/3p3p/2bPp1N1/3P4/1PP5/1P3PPP/R1BQK2R b KQ d3 0 12
I expected 11...Bf5.
[Event "Analysis Main Line 11...¥f5"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2011.11.04"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Schachmatt"]
[Black "Uly"]
[Result "*"]
[ECO "C57"]
[PlyCount "59"]
[SourceDate "2011.11.04"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 Bc5 5. Bxf7+ Ke7 6. Bb3 d6 7. Nc3 Qe8 8.
Nd5+ Nxd5 9. exd5 Nd4 10. c3 Nxb3 11. axb3 Bf5 12. d4 exd4 13. O-O Qg6 14. Re1+
Kd7 15. b4 Bb6 16. Qa4+ Kc8 17. cxd4 Bxd4 18. Ra3 Be5 19. f4 Bd4+ 20. Kh1 Bf2
21. Re2 Bd7 22. Qb3 Qb1 23. Qc4 b5 24. Qc3 Bd4 25. Qd2 Bf6 26. Ne6 Kb7 27. Rd3
Be8 28. f5 Bh5 29. Re1 Bg4 30. Rf1 *
Yeah, no way I was playing that, specially considering that my mainlines still seem like draws. I know that if you said these positions are lost for Black, that I must be missing some key move somewhere, but I just can't see it.
I discarded 11...Bf5 very early in analysis, and focused in the non-transposing variations between 11...h6 and 11...Bb6, concluding that h6 was better, though I think white's best continuation after 11...Bb6 was 12.d4, and then 12...h6, anyway.
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 Bc5 5. Bxf7+ Ke7 6. Bb3 d6 7. Nc3 Qe8 8. Nd5+ Nxd5 9. exd5 Nd4 10. c3 Nxb3 11. axb3 h6 12. d4 Bb6
I discarded 11...Bf5 very early in analysis, and focused in the non-transposing variations between 11...h6 and 11...Bb6, concluding that h6 was better, though I think white's best continuation after 11...Bb6 was 12.d4, and then 12...h6, anyway.
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 Bc5 5. Bxf7+ Ke7 6. Bb3 d6 7. Nc3 Qe8 8. Nd5+ Nxd5 9. exd5 Nd4 10. c3 Nxb3 11. axb3 h6 12. d4 Bb6
r1b1q2r/ppp1k1p1/1b1p3p/3Pp1N1/3P4/1PP5/1P3PPP/R1BQK2R w KQ -
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 Bc5 5. Bxf7+ Ke7 6. Bb3 d6 7. Nc3 Qe8 8. Nd5+ Nxd5 9. exd5 Nd4 10. c3 Nxb3 11. axb3 h6 12. d4 Bb6 13.Nf3
Conditional offered: 13...Bg4 14.dxe5
My goal is to get into a winning rook endgame. My main line is a heavy piece ending with Black's king slightly more exposed and Black's rooks slightly awkwardly coordinated and I can target Black's structural weaknesses enough to win. There are many variations, but intuitively I do not think Black has quite enough to hold and concretely I see ways to restrict Black's chances. I think the key is that a queen trade sometimes is favorable to me when my rooks are better, and Black's structural deficits are such that this is enough to win.
r1b1q2r/ppp1k1p1/1b1p3p/3Pp3/3P4/1PP2N2/1P3PPP/R1BQK2R b KQ - 0 13
Conditional offered: 13...Bg4 14.dxe5
My goal is to get into a winning rook endgame. My main line is a heavy piece ending with Black's king slightly more exposed and Black's rooks slightly awkwardly coordinated and I can target Black's structural weaknesses enough to win. There are many variations, but intuitively I do not think Black has quite enough to hold and concretely I see ways to restrict Black's chances. I think the key is that a queen trade sometimes is favorable to me when my rooks are better, and Black's structural deficits are such that this is enough to win.
Oh, wow! I've been focusing on analyzing the critical positions near the root, and in that I don't miss a move that you'd play that would ruin my analysis. I haven't analyzed any endgame and wouldn't dare to predict one.
Accepted.
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 Bc5 5. Bxf7+ Ke7 6. Bb3 d6 7. Nc3 Qe8 8. Nd5+ Nxd5 9. exd5 Nd4 10. c3 Nxb3 11. axb3 h6 12. d4 Bb6 13. Nf3 Bg4 14. dxe5 Rf8
Accepted.
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 Bc5 5. Bxf7+ Ke7 6. Bb3 d6 7. Nc3 Qe8 8. Nd5+ Nxd5 9. exd5 Nd4 10. c3 Nxb3 11. axb3 h6 12. d4 Bb6 13. Nf3 Bg4 14. dxe5 Rf8
r3qr2/ppp1k1p1/1b1p3p/3PP3/6b1/1PP2N2/1P3PPP/R1BQK2R w KQ -
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 Bc5 5. Bxf7+ Ke7 6. Bb3 d6 7. Nc3 Qe8 8. Nd5+ Nxd5 9. exd5 Nd4 10. c3 Nxb3 11. axb3 h6 12. d4 Bb6 13. Nf3 Bg4 14. dxe5 Rf8 15.Be3
r3qr2/ppp1k1p1/1b1p3p/3PP3/6b1/1PP1BN2/1P3PPP/R2QK2R b KQ - 0 15
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 Bc5 5. Bxf7+ Ke7 6. Bb3 d6 7. Nc3 Qe8 8. Nd5+ Nxd5 9. exd5 Nd4 10. c3 Nxb3 11. axb3 h6 12. d4 Bb6 13. Nf3 Bg4 14. dxe5 Rf8 15. Be3 Qh5
r4r2/ppp1k1p1/1b1p3p/3PP2q/6b1/1PP1BN2/1P3PPP/R2QK2R w KQ -
Bringing it to left bottom of thread.
Cool! One more Traxler game. :)
Three or four critical moves here.
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 Bc5 5. Bxf7+ Ke7 6. Bb3 d6 7. Nc3 Qe8 8. Nd5+ Nxd5 9. exd5 Nd4 10. c3 Nxb3 11. axb3 h6 12. d4 Bb6 13. Nf3 Bg4 14. dxe5 Rf8 15. Be3 Qh5 16.Qe2
r4r2/ppp1k1p1/1b1p3p/3PP2q/6b1/1PP1BN2/1P2QPPP/R3K2R b KQ - 0 16
What am I missing? 
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 Bc5 5. Bxf7+ Ke7 6. Bb3 d6 7. Nc3 Qe8 8. Nd5+ Nxd5 9. exd5 Nd4 10. c3 Nxb3 11. axb3 h6 12. d4 Bb6 13. Nf3 Bg4 14. dxe5 Rf8 15. Be3 Qh5 16. Qe2 Rxf3

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 Bc5 5. Bxf7+ Ke7 6. Bb3 d6 7. Nc3 Qe8 8. Nd5+ Nxd5 9. exd5 Nd4 10. c3 Nxb3 11. axb3 h6 12. d4 Bb6 13. Nf3 Bg4 14. dxe5 Rf8 15. Be3 Qh5 16. Qe2 Rxf3
r7/ppp1k1p1/1b1p3p/3PP2q/6b1/1PP1Br2/1P2QPPP/R3K2R w KQ -
Well, I certainly analyzed this move thoroughly, I think more thoroughly than any other ... and it's quite possible you assessed the ending not completely accurately, the engines can the positions with King exposure and I do not intend to liquidate as the engines suggest. There is a horizon effect here. I thought I was winning for sure after 12...Bb6, after 12...Qg6, I thought it is a more difficult technical exercise but it looks like I can win there too because I can achieve connected passed pawns. Let's see...
For a while Rxf3 was my main line but I refuted it, and in the end I thought Rae8 was the only move that gives any chances.
Started analyzing with Houdini 1.5 in the middle of this game, it's a really great engine for analysis of long lines, but I cannot multitask when analyzing with it. Must find out how to adjust parameters so it uses less memory when active. Anyway Rybka is somewhat better for endings.
EDIT: Hmm, well maybe I missed a horizon effect line, that's unfortunate...
For a while Rxf3 was my main line but I refuted it, and in the end I thought Rae8 was the only move that gives any chances.
Started analyzing with Houdini 1.5 in the middle of this game, it's a really great engine for analysis of long lines, but I cannot multitask when analyzing with it. Must find out how to adjust parameters so it uses less memory when active. Anyway Rybka is somewhat better for endings.
EDIT: Hmm, well maybe I missed a horizon effect line, that's unfortunate...
White resigns. My analysis of exd6 Kf7 was woefully inadequate. Well done! Qe2 is a huge blunder, the most ambitious move, but quite unfortunately too slow. White advantage is simply within draw bounds on the alternatives, so I have to go back to move 7 for real improvements. At least I understand better why Bd5 is favored over Bb3, as concretely it seems Black has enough for a draw. I am disappointed by my results of late and lapses in judgment, albeit in part consequent of playing positions that are less familiar to me, but this is part of the learning process. I thank you for your efforts and quality play - it is not simple to analyze positions down material and with exposed King.
Wow! I never expected this game to end like this! You had me very scared with your assessments of the position calling the game won for white, I truly expected that the lines you were seeing were beyond my horizon and that I was going to be in trouble soon or in some endgame from outer space where white was winning but I just couldn't tell.
Thanks for the game and for allowing me to dig deeper in these positions, and for my better understanding of the implications of these lines for the Two Knights defense, a favorite opening of mine. I think I'm better prepared for my future challenge against Moz in these variations again,
*Handshake.*
Thanks for the game and for allowing me to dig deeper in these positions, and for my better understanding of the implications of these lines for the Two Knights defense, a favorite opening of mine. I think I'm better prepared for my future challenge against Moz in these variations again,
*Handshake.*
That’s pretty sick. Well played Uly.

there's many variations if you play it thru rybka ed and kf7 qc4 and qb5 and all the endgames win for Black also. White doesn't have a draw anywhere some weird tactics. I just didn't consider Kf7, I was looking at too many moves in previous branches, in an otb game, kf7 is the only move to consider really... didn't see it coming. it's pretty impressive for black, he had to see until about this depth on some lines committing to a plan on move 7 and 8.
Can you post the winning line?
+1

As Schammatt says, there are many variations, the moves of white are not sent in stone as it has many choices, but it seems it ends in an endgame with 3 pawns against Bishop in where an exchange of rooks leads to a black victory and white is paralyzed. I actually had projected something like this:
But I wouldn't venture to say that the end position was lost for white, you never know (I had planned to improve the line as the game continued, but it didn't).
And whoa! By looking at Schachmatt's PGN it seems he analyzed those variations much more thoroughly than I did
8/1pkb3R/8/p2P4/5r1P/1PP5/1P6/2K5 w - -
But I wouldn't venture to say that the end position was lost for white, you never know (I had planned to improve the line as the game continued, but it didn't).
And whoa! By looking at Schachmatt's PGN it seems he analyzed those variations much more thoroughly than I did

You know You Talk too much. Few moves ago You said White wins and now you say White resigns. Without confirming anything saying is bit weird.
Traxler still has bite and is not refuted till now.
P.S. - will you complete our game we played at WBCCC and continued with different move ?
Traxler still has bite and is not refuted till now.
P.S. - will you complete our game we played at WBCCC and continued with different move ?
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