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- - By keoki010 (Silver) [us] Date 2011-10-30 13:38
[Event "CC"]
[Site "Rybka Forum"]
[Date "2011.10.29"]
[Round "?"]
[White "National12"]
[Black "keoki010"]
[Result "*"]
[BlackElo "0"]
[Classes "0"]
[ECO "A03"]
[GameID "0"]
[TimeControl "?"]
[WhiteElo "0"]

1. f4 d5 *

rnbqkbnr/ppp1pppp/8/3p4/5P2/8/PPPPP1PP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 2
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-10-30 14:15
2.Nf3
Parent - - By keoki010 (Silver) [us] Date 2011-10-30 14:29
1.f4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 *
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Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-10-30 15:57
3.e3
Parent - - By keoki010 (Silver) [us] Date 2011-10-30 16:09
1.f4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e3 c5 *
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Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-10-30 17:24
4.b3
Parent - - By keoki010 (Silver) [us] Date 2011-10-30 20:24
1.f4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e3 c5 4.b3 g6 *
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Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-10-30 21:12
5.Bb2
Parent - - By keoki010 (Silver) [us] Date 2011-10-30 23:42
1.f4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e3 c5 4.b3 g6 5.Bb2 Bg7 *
rnbqk2r/pp2ppbp/5np1/2pp4/5P2/1P2PN2/PBPP2PP/RN1QKB1R w KQkq -
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-10-30 23:46
6.Be2
Parent - - By keoki010 (Silver) [us] Date 2011-10-31 14:59
1.f4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e3 c5 4.b3 g6 5.Bb2 Bg7 6.Be2 O-O *
rnbq1rk1/pp2ppbp/5np1/2pp4/5P2/1P2PN2/PBPPB1PP/RN1QK2R w KQ -
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-10-31 16:31
7.0-0
Parent - - By keoki010 (Silver) [us] Date 2011-10-31 17:19
1.f4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e3 c5 4.b3 g6 5.Bb2 Bg7 6.Be2 O-O 7.O-O Nc6 *
r1bq1rk1/pp2ppbp/2n2np1/2pp4/5P2/1P2PN2/PBPPB1PP/RN1Q1RK1 w - -
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-10-31 18:26
8.Ne5
Parent - By keoki010 (Silver) [us] Date 2011-10-31 19:19
1.f4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e3 c5 4.b3 g6 5.Bb2 Bg7 6.Be2 O-O 7.O-O Nc6
8.Ne5 Qc7 *
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Parent - - By keoki010 (Silver) [us] Date 2011-10-31 19:20
Decision time? Lot's of moves here for white...:eek:
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-10-31 22:02
9.Nxc6
Parent - - By keoki010 (Silver) [us] Date 2011-11-01 13:36
1.f4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e3 c5 4.b3 g6 5.Bb2 Bg7 6.Be2 O-O 7.O-O Nc6
8.Ne5 Qc7 9.Nxc6 Qxc6 *
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Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-11-01 17:05
10.Bf3
Parent - By keoki010 (Silver) [us] Date 2011-11-01 18:51
1.f4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e3 c5 4.b3 g6 5.Bb2 Bg7 6.Be2 O-O 7.O-O Nc6
8.Ne5 Qc7 9.Nxc6 Qxc6 10.Bf3 Be6 *
r4rk1/pp2ppbp/2q1bnp1/2pp4/5P2/1P2PB2/PBPP2PP/RN1Q1RK1 w - -
Parent - - By keoki010 (Silver) [us] Date 2011-11-01 18:51
left move
Parent - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-11-01 19:28
will move left on my next move.
Parent - By keoki010 (Silver) [us] Date 2011-11-01 18:59
2 of my engines think 10...Be6 was not nearly as good as 10...Bf5 ChessOK database thinks Bf5 was better for Black. A few moves further it is a toss-up according to the engines. we'll have to see I guess.
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-10-31 22:54 Edited 2011-10-31 22:57
you to George have many choices slightly further on.:smile:
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-10-31 22:57
i was following an old game Pirc-Golombek 1956 in which white played 9.Nc3 however blacks reply a6 was not the best move.
Parent - - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-10-31 22:58
You do like the older games, just not crazy enough to play pre-1900's. :smile:
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-10-31 23:19
did you not follow my game against Ruben,a warm up for tournament.

http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforum/topic_show.pl?tid=19283
Parent - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-10-31 23:27
I stand corrected. :smile:
- - By keoki010 (Silver) [us] Date 2011-11-01 18:52
left
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-11-01 19:29
oh i see you have already done it.
Parent - - By keoki010 (Silver) [us] Date 2011-11-01 19:52
yes, been so long since I did this I forgot how.
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-11-01 21:36
1.f4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e3 c5 4.b3 g6 5.Bb2 Bg7 6.Be2 O-O 7.O-O Nc6
8.Ne5 Qc7 9.Nxc6 Qxc6 10.Bf3 Be6 11.d3

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Parent - - By keoki010 (Silver) [us] Date 2011-11-01 23:16
1.f4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e3 c5 4.b3 g6 5.Bb2 Bg7 6.Be2 O-O 7.O-O Nc6
8.Ne5 Qc7 9.Nxc6 Qxc6 10.Bf3 Be6 11.d3 Qd7 *
r4rk1/pp1qppbp/4bnp1/2pp4/5P2/1P1PPB2/PBP3PP/RN1Q1RK1 w - -
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-11-01 23:33
well we are out of most books now,maybe Nelson will come storming in with hundreds of games,:smile:
Parent - By Nelson Hernandez (Gold) [us] Date 2011-11-02 01:31
Dozens, not hundreds.  White 44.6% with 39.3% draws.  First seen on FICS in 2002 in a game that featured Vincent Diepeveen as black.  Five moves have been tried here and two more positions have been attained through transposition.  You guys should be out of book within a couple of moves.
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-11-02 13:39
12.Qe1
Parent - - By keoki010 (Silver) [us] Date 2011-11-02 23:57
1.f4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e3 c5 4.b3 g6 5.Bb2 Bg7 6.Be2 O-O 7.O-O Nc6
8.Ne5 Qc7 9.Nxc6 Qxc6 10.Bf3 Be6 11.d3 Qd7 12.Qe1 Rac8 *
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Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-11-03 00:08
13.Nd2
Parent - - By keoki010 (Silver) [us] Date 2011-11-03 00:31
1.f4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e3 c5 4.b3 g6 5.Bb2 Bg7 6.Be2 O-O 7.O-O Nc6
8.Ne5 Qc7 9.Nxc6 Qxc6 10.Bf3 Be6 11.d3 Qd7 12.Qe1 Rac8 13.Nd2
Rfd8 *
2rr2k1/pp1qppbp/4bnp1/2pp4/5P2/1P1PPB2/PBPN2PP/R3QRK1 w - -
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-11-03 01:00
i think this was best reply,Rybka as no doubt you are aware wanted me to play a4,i just have a gut feeling this was wrong and i had to develop my knight.Next move looks pretty much forced although Komodo atm still likes a4.

14.Be5
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-11-03 01:28
the problem with this opening George is that it puts liitle pressure on black.I believe its good enough for a draw but thats about it,i think Uly more or less thinks the same.Anyway it deserves an occasional outing and thats what its getting here, if only for suprise value.Old Bird seemed to do ok with it, but that was a very long time ago.:smile:
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2011-11-03 01:32
I agree, but I still think it's an opening in where one player can beat the other one by playing better.
Parent - - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-11-03 01:33
+1
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-11-03 01:43
thats easy to say but i feel one side has to make a rarther large error of judgement,i dont see it at this leval.ie if Keoki plays Ng4 there are a lot of exchanges,not saying this is best line but it is a choice.i dont mind going into an endgame,had a lot of practice recently.:grin:
Parent - By keoki010 (Silver) [us] Date 2011-11-03 15:20
Yeah, I've got several going on atm over on ficgs.
Parent - - By keoki010 (Silver) [us] Date 2011-11-03 15:39
1.f4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e3 c5 4.b3 g6 5.Bb2 Bg7 6.Be2 O-O 7.O-O Nc6
8.Ne5 Qc7 9.Nxc6 Qxc6 10.Bf3 Be6 11.d3 Qd7 12.Qe1 Rac8 13.Nd2
Rfd8 14.Be5 Ng4 *
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Parent - By keoki010 (Silver) [us] Date 2011-11-03 15:41
I chose Ng4 over b5 because b5 seems to lead into a murky region that's not clear but looks like a dead draw! Ng4 gives some wiggle room.
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-11-03 17:12
15.Bxg7
Parent - - By keoki010 (Silver) [us] Date 2011-11-03 19:39
1.f4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e3 c5 4.b3 g6 5.Bb2 Bg7 6.Be2 O-O 7.O-O Nc6
8.Ne5 Qc7 9.Nxc6 Qxc6 10.Bf3 Be6 11.d3 Qd7 12.Qe1 Rac8 13.Nd2
Rfd8 14.Be5 Ng4 15.Bxg7 Kxg7 *
2rr4/pp1qppkp/4b1p1/2pp4/5Pn1/1P1PPB2/P1PN2PP/R3QRK1 w - -
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-11-03 21:04
16.Bxg4
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