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- - By mantova (**) Date 2011-07-10 21:57
instead who is right or not,and not 'speaking' about who is in the 'true' right or not,someone apart from me feel like we are fighting in a fraticidal war?
Parent - - By Eagleclaww (***) Date 2011-07-10 22:16
I try to be neutral with the Rybka cloning stuff. But its its nearly impossible to not be biased toward one side or the other, even if a person is trying to at least have neutral posts concerning the issue of cloning.
Parent - - By mantova (**) Date 2011-07-10 22:28 Edited 2011-07-10 22:33
i have my own opinion,and you can read it in my other post...but looking backward,and reading all is writen,i feel like a pawn in a fraticidal war...
for me vas is guilty,for other people,vas is inocent...but looking from an 'outside' look,we seem pawns,fighting for a war that is not our war...we,of course,have our own opinions,but we irrationaly start fighting,insulting eachother,trying to make our reasoning more and more obtain what?the life will continue,people who steal will continue stealing,people who work honestly will continue working honestly,instead of what we are fighting...
our 'fight' has no sense
Parent - - By Permanent Brain (*****) Date 2011-07-10 23:26
We (luckily!) are not even pawns, we are the spectators in the circus maximus, watching the gladiators and the carnivors. :lol: A never-ending tragicomical scandal of epic dimensions.
Parent - - By mantova (**) Date 2011-07-10 23:53
if we were only spectators...we are who fight,who send and receive insults,who support at our backs all the heavy work,and endless,who blood to make others rich...who wins with that 'wars'?we dont win,chess dont win,so why we fight?every of us have own ideas about what happened(me the first,i still thinking that vas stolen the code and used it in a fraudulent way),but fighting like we are doing,the only thing that we will obtain is know the worst thing of every of us...and that is sad,because none of us will take benefit of knowing it owns defects showed,and never are clearly showed as when we are angry and out of control...sadly,none of us will take benefit of that,and of course,chess wont be a exception...that 'war' should never happen
Parent - - By turbojuice1122 (Gold) Date 2011-07-11 14:53
I think that it is clear that lately, you have been very reasonable and primarily been trying to discuss the issues at hand, showing that you are definitely a reasonable person.  This is what we need, and this is most easily achieved when we dismiss any emotional connection with the issues, and simply post based on the information, facts, and arguments being presented.
Parent - - By mantova (**) Date 2011-07-11 16:01
thanks a lot for your words,as all other the people,can be wrong,or make a mistake(you can call it with the words you want),but when i see that i make an error,i improve myself and learn from it to prevent futura wasnt 100 error free,but is my way,and im proud to use it...
im a chess engine with auto learning archive? :yell:
Parent - - By turbojuice1122 (Gold) Date 2011-07-11 17:08
We all make mistakes; I have certainly made many on this forum.  I definitely handled some of my fights with Hetman poorly.  Perhaps some might think that I'm doing the same right now with Rob, but I guess time will have to determine this; I think I'm doing okay so far, but must be very careful.
Parent - - By Nimzovik (***) Date 2011-07-11 17:31
Hear Hear!!  Well said!! We all should address others with deference and respect.
Parent - By mantova (**) Date 2011-07-11 18:38
totally agree with you nimzovik
Parent - - By mantova (**) Date 2011-07-11 18:37
i can say you that Rob is a honest im not speaking about vas,chess,engines,clones or something speaking about the person behind the words...he has his beliefs,and defends it as strong as he the times that we see at te world today,is too hard find a people with a strong beliefs like Rob...other question if people agree or not with him(i agree),but like a person,i fin him too honest and smart i found more people that i really enjoy speak with them,because even if we dont agree,we respect the other and speak in a smart and constructive conversation:that persons are you and thehug...
Parent - - By turbojuice1122 (Gold) Date 2011-07-11 20:44
I also agree that Rob is very honest.  However, I think that sometimes he places too much of an emotional attachment to his ideas and statements, and this can easily lead to unnecessary conflicts.
Parent - By mantova (**) Date 2011-07-11 20:55
who here doesnt put too much emotional attachment to his ideas and statements?me the first
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