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- By Christian Packi (****) [de] Date 2011-05-06 16:16
I reread the last game. There was some awesome banter going on! :lol: Let's hope this continues. I also see Uly has the color he wanted because it always wins! So let's get this on! :smile:

1. b3R
- - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2011-05-07 06:14


Good luck and have fun guys! And remember, don't pay attention to the arguments of other players, here everyone is on his own! :lol:

1. b3R g3R

Parent - - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-05-07 06:29
We all seem to like these Batman pics. :lol:

1. b3R g3G Nf3B
Parent - - By Christian Packi (****) [de] Date 2011-05-07 18:21
1. b3R g3G Nf3B
2. Bb2R
Parent - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2011-05-07 22:36
1. b3R g3G Nf3B
2. Bb2R Bg2G

Parent - - By Christian Packi (****) [de] Date 2011-05-09 23:34
Hey Jimmy it's your turn. :wink:
Parent - - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-05-09 23:35
1. b3R g3G Nf3B
2. Bb2R Bg2G d4B
Parent - - By Christian Packi (****) [de] Date 2011-05-09 23:40
1. b3R g3G Nf3B
2. Bb2R Bg2G d4B
3. Nf3R
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2011-05-10 00:08
1. b3R g3G Nf3B
2. Bb2R Bg2G d4B
3. Nf3R c4G

Parent - - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-05-11 04:14
1. b3R g3G Nf3B
2. Bb2R Bg2G d4B
3. Nf3R c4G c4B
Parent - - By Christian Packi (****) [de] Date 2011-05-11 11:36
1. b3R g3G Nf3B
2. Bb2R Bg2G d4B
3. Nf3R c4G c4B
4. g3R
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2011-05-11 23:36
1. b3R g3G Nf3B
2. Bb2R Bg2G d4B
3. Nf3R c4G c4B
4. g3R Nc3G

Parent - - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-05-12 03:58
1. b3R g3G Nf3B
2. Bb2R Bg2G d4B
3. Nf3R c4G c4B
4. g3R Nc3G Nc3B
Parent - - By Christian Packi (****) [de] Date 2011-05-12 12:51
1. b3R g3G Nf3B
2. Bb2R Bg2G d4B
3. Nf3R c4G c4B
4. g3R Nc3G Nc3B
5. Na3R
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2011-05-12 23:21
o_O

1. b3R g3G Nf3B
2. Bb2R Bg2G d4B
3. Nf3R c4G c4B
4. g3R Nc3G Nc3B
5. Na3R d3G

Parent - - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-05-12 23:32
1. b3R g3G Nf3B
2. Bb2R Bg2G d4B
3. Nf3R c4G c4B
4. g3R Nc3G Nc3B
5. Na3R d3G Bf4B
Parent - - By Christian Packi (****) [de] Date 2011-05-13 00:35
1. b3R g3G Nf3B
2. Bb2R Bg2G d4B
3. Nf3R c4G c4B
4. g3R Nc3G Nc3B
5. Na3R d3G Bf4B
6. c4R
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2011-05-13 03:52
1. b3R g3G Nf3B
2. Bb2R Bg2G d4B
3. Nf3R c4G c4B
4. g3R Nc3G Nc3B
5. Na3R d3G Bf4B
6. c4R Bd2G

Parent - - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-05-13 03:53
This is almost a little to positional for my taste. :lol:
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2011-05-13 03:59
Christian is the only one that has developed all his minor pieces, IF Na3R can be called "developing" :lol:
Parent - - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-05-13 04:14
He played Na3R because he wants to keep the lines open for that bishop. I'll think on my move for a bit. Don't know yet were to put my light square bishop.
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2011-05-14 09:26

> Don't know yet were to put my light square bishop.


I'm still wondering it, is it really going to attack the pawn at c4R? :lol:
Parent - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-05-14 09:32
I wouldn't count on it. :smile:
Parent - - By Christian Packi (****) [de] Date 2011-05-13 11:57
It's all part of a masterplan. :wink:
Parent - - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-05-14 09:04
1. b3R g3G Nf3B
2. Bb2R Bg2G d4B
3. Nf3R c4G c4B
4. g3R Nc3G Nc3B
5. Na3R d3G Bf4B
6. c4R Bd2G e3B

Lets see what you have up your sleeve. :smile:
Parent - - By Christian Packi (****) [de] Date 2011-05-14 14:43
1. b3R g3G Nf3B
2. Bb2R Bg2G d4B
3. Nf3R c4G c4B
4. g3R Nc3G Nc3B
5. Na3R d3G Bf4B
6. c4R Bd2G e3B
7. Nc2R
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2011-05-14 20:37
:evil:

1. b3R g3G Nf3B
2. Bb2R Bg2G d4B
3. Nf3R c4G c4B
4. g3R Nc3G Nc3B
5. Na3R d3G Bf4B
6. c4R Bd2G e3B
7. Nc2R b4G

Parent - - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-05-14 20:39

>  b4G


Since when do you make moves like that. :lol:
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2011-05-14 20:41
I blame Highendman! :yell:
Parent - - By Christian Packi (****) [de] Date 2011-05-14 20:42
Where is that game and how did he lose?!
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2011-05-14 20:46
He beat the whole Rybka forum with b4 (2.b4, anyway):

http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforum/topic_show.pl?tid=13190

Since then I keep looking for ways to play it :smile:
Parent - - By Christian Packi (****) [de] Date 2011-05-14 20:51
But he also played Na3-Nc2. So who is the real HEM here huh? HUH? :mad:
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2011-05-14 21:52
Did you play Na3-Nc2 inspired by that game?
Parent - - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-05-14 21:53
He played Na3-Nc2 because he is making a big push for d4R
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2011-05-14 22:00
So I am the real HEM here! :lol:
Parent - - By Christian Packi (****) [de] Date 2011-05-14 22:48
As long as Jimmy's c-pawn isn't paralyzed I will be fine. :twisted:
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2011-05-14 23:06
Well, let's see what Jimmy moves!
Parent - - By Christian Packi (****) [de] Date 2011-05-14 23:09
I was about to post my move when I realized it's Jimmy's turn. :yell:
Parent - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-05-14 23:27
I'm posting my next move to the left.
Parent - By Christian Packi (****) [de] Date 2011-05-14 20:41
What the ... :eek:
Parent - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-05-14 20:43
Actually looking at it a 2nd time it makes sense.
Parent - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-05-11 04:15
My move is posted start for the delay. Been trying to get things going for WBCCC.
- - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-05-14 23:27
1. b3R g3G Nf3B
2. Bb2R Bg2G d4B
3. Nf3R c4G c4B
4. g3R Nc3G Nc3B
5. Na3R d3G Bf4B
6. c4R Bd2G e3B
7. Nc2R b4G Be2B
Parent - - By Christian Packi (****) [de] Date 2011-05-14 23:31
1. b3R g3G Nf3B
2. Bb2R Bg2G d4B
3. Nf3R c4G c4B
4. g3R Nc3G Nc3B
5. Na3R d3G Bf4B
6. c4R Bd2G e3B
7. Nc2R b4G Be2B
8. 0-0
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2011-05-15 00:22
First player going over the border :cool:

1. b3R g3G Nf3B
2. Bb2R Bg2G d4B
3. Nf3R c4G c4B
4. g3R Nc3G Nc3B
5. Na3R d3G Bf4B
6. c4R Bd2G e3B
7. Nc2R b4G Be2B
8. 0-0R f4R

Parent - - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-05-17 04:06
1. b3R g3G Nf3B
2. Bb2R Bg2G d4B
3. Nf3R c4G c4B
4. g3R Nc3G Nc3B
5. Na3R d3G Bf4B
6. c4R Bd2G e3B
7. Nc2R b4G Be2B
8. 0-0R f4R 0-0B
Parent - - By Christian Packi (****) [de] Date 2011-05-17 15:09
I guess I have to take material off. Btw it is unnecessary to put a R behind 0-0. The move 0-0 is well defined in itself.

1. b3R g3G Nf3B
2. Bb2R Bg2G d4B
3. Nf3R c4G c4B
4. g3R Nc3G Nc3B
5. Na3R d3G Bf4B
6. c4R Bd2G e3B
7. Nc2R b4G Be2B
8. 0-0 f4R 0-0
9. Nxb4G
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2011-05-18 07:24 Edited 2011-05-18 07:34

>Btw it is unnecessary to put a R behind 0-0. The move 0-0 is well defined in itself.


Wait what? That's like saying the x in Nxb4G is unnecessary because the move Nb4G is well defined in itself. 0-0R says "red castled", 0-0 just says "someone castled", and one has to look at what order was it played, and who is the first player of the game, and what is the color of that player, before knowing on a first glance what happened.

But, anyway, last game we had an incorrect move in the move history for a really long while, and it didn't matter, so, I don't think that's important, will not get into edit wars.

>What are you up to Uly? I know you're trying to hurt me! :evil:


Depends on the cooperation of Jimmy, and he's not going to cooperate because it's not good for him if I mate you, so I can't have a plan if I can't see beyond 2 ply!

1. b3R g3G Nf3B
2. Bb2R Bg2G d4B
3. Nf3R c4G c4B
4. g3R Nc3G Nc3B
5. Na3R d3G Bf4B
6. c4R Bd2G e3B
7. Nc2R b4G Be2B
8. 0-0 f4R 0-0
9. Nxb4G fxg3R

(Or just 'g3'? Because that's the only g3 the second player can play in the board, it defines itself)

Parent - - By Christian Packi (****) [de] Date 2011-05-18 13:11

> That's like saying the x in Nxb4G is unnecessary because the move Nb4G is well defined in itself.


Actually that's true. Afaik a move like cd4 is a well accepted short notation in normal chess. But that’s not the point.

> 0-0R says "red castled", 0-0 just says "someone castled", and one has to look at what order was it played, and who is the first player of the game, and what is the color of that player, before knowing on a first glance what happened.


8. 0-0 f4R 0-0 says "first and third player castled". Of course you have to know which color the first player is but that's just a problem from lack of experience. In normal chess you immediately know that white is the first player.

I want to point out why we put the letters R, G and B behind the moves. It is because unlike in normal chess we have three squares with the same notation e.g. d4 exists three times. So we need another indicator which square we mean. Therefore a move like Nxb4G actually means I moved my knight to the square b4G. This is unnecessary for castling. Every player has exactly two ways to castle. These are well distinguished by 0-0 and 0-0-0. No squares here so no R, G or B.

Talking about the game. Since I am getting murdered here and don't even know why I had time to think about Yalta. I'll put my conclusion first and say that 4-way Yalta is a more balanced game than 3-way Yalta.

And here is why. If in 4-way Yalta two players attack another player there will always be a forth player left that is opposite to the attacked player. This player has no direct access to the attacked player and therefore can't just go for the kill too and hope to mate him first (like it is possible in 3-way Yalta). So this forth player will start an attack on one of the attackers. This will force the attacking player to either risk getting mated himself or stop his attack and defend against the new aggressor. Through this natural development a 2on2 establishes with possible side kicks from the other side.

Ps: I didn’t see the blue bishop when I took the pawn. I guess it vanished in the square color for me. :roll:
Parent - - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-05-18 13:35

> I guess it vanished in the square color for me. :roll:


I was wondering about this myself. I guess you want to play hxg3R?
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