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- - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-04-19 21:35
trust we will have another good game.

1.e4
Parent - - By Mark Eldridge (****) [gb] Date 2011-04-19 22:19
I hope so too.

1.c6
Parent - - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-04-19 22:20
Going to redeem yourself with the caro vs Paul? I have to admit the last time you played it. It was interesting to watch.
Parent - - By Mark Eldridge (****) [gb] Date 2011-04-19 22:23
Well i'm going to try?
Parent - - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-04-19 22:26
Sorry Mark that come off as a bit insulting. Didn't mean it that way.
Parent - By Mark Eldridge (****) [gb] Date 2011-04-19 22:33
Did not take it as an insult. No need to apologize.
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-04-19 22:20
i was not expecting that.
Parent - - By Mark Eldridge (****) [gb] Date 2011-04-19 22:24
Thats a result Paul not expecting c6
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-04-19 22:41
:smile:

2.b3

could be fun.
Parent - - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-04-19 22:47
:surprised: :smile:
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-04-19 22:51
thought i would take a leaf out of Alans ideas.nothing wrong with this move.
Parent - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-04-19 22:59
I'll have to look that one up. If he plays 1.b3 c6 2.e4!? :lol:
Parent - - By Mark Eldridge (****) [gb] Date 2011-04-20 17:29
2.d5
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-04-20 21:12
1.e4 c6 2.b3 d5 3.e5

rnbqkbnr/pp2pppp/2p5/3pP3/8/1P6/P1PP1PPP/RNBQKBNR b KQkq - 0 3
Parent - - By Mark Eldridge (****) [gb] Date 2011-04-20 21:35
3.e6
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-04-20 21:53
4.Nf3
Parent - - By Mark Eldridge (****) [gb] Date 2011-04-21 19:02
4.c5
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-04-21 20:42
Hi Nelson,got many games of this position. 4...c5 got me out of book,although i expected it.
Parent - By Nelson Hernandez (Silver) [us] Date 2011-04-21 22:34
PurePower, Rybka 3-Heyer, Rybka 3 Dynamic, 1/2-1/2, 2009.10.25 is the first game to wind up in this position.  Only four games have been here before.
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-04-21 21:15 Edited 2011-04-22 16:22
1.e4 c6 2.b3 d5 3.e5 e6 4.Nf3 c5 5.c3

rnbqkbnr/pp3ppp/4p3/2ppP3/8/1PP2N2/P2P1PPP/RNBQKB1R b KQkq - 0 5
Parent - - By Nelson Hernandez (Silver) [us] Date 2011-04-21 22:36
Novelty move.  Millions and millions of games, never seen this before.  Indicates the vastness of the unexplored territory.
Parent - - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-04-21 22:37
How many games did you have after 2.b3?
Parent - - By Nelson Hernandez (Silver) [us] Date 2011-04-21 22:48
A pretty fair number.  Can't be more specific.  I can say that 2.b3 has been seen in less than 1 in 1,000 games and is my #12 move in that position (out of 29)!
Parent - - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-04-21 22:52
You know I just had a good laugh a sec ago. I just realized that your book is so big. That when you say you have a move played 2% of the time. That could still be more games than anyone has in the entire line. :lol:
Parent - - By Nelson Hernandez (Silver) [us] Date 2011-04-21 22:54
I doubt that I have a 50-1 advantage over everyone else!  If you're talking databases, no way.  If you're talking opening books, it depends.
Parent - - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-04-21 23:12
Of course I was thinking opening books here. What surprises me is how many unplayed moves you have in your book. Anyway on a personally note. It would be pretty hard to get a book as big as yours so I probably prefer to just make a solid manual one and use other strong books as references.
Parent - By Nelson Hernandez (Silver) [us] Date 2011-04-21 23:46
A solid manual book can completely neutralize my big one and perhaps even gain advantages.  But you need to be able to following prepared lines.  A big book doesn't always cooperate with the plan.  But this game is an example of exactly how to defeat the book: drive toward an unexplored position and be very deeply prepared.  Anyone can do it, and it's a lot of fun to spring something new on an opponent.
Parent - - By Mark Eldridge (****) [gb] Date 2011-04-21 22:45
5.Nc6
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-04-22 06:36
6.d4
Parent - - By keoki010 (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-04-22 15:58 Edited 2011-04-22 17:04
Paul you are missing the black 3rd move in your diagram post.

[Event "Fun Match"]
[Site "Rybka Forum"]
[Date "2011.04.22"]
[Round "2"]
[White "NaTIONAL12"]
[Black "Eldridge,Mark"]
[Result "*"]
[Annotator "?"]
[BlackElo "0"]
[ECO "B10"]
[TimeControl "?"]
[WhiteElo "0"]

1. e4 c6 2. b3 d5 3. e5 e6 4. Nf3 c5 5. c3 Nc6 6. d4 *
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-04-22 16:24
thanks,i have corrected it.i played 6.d4 not 6.c4
Parent - By keoki010 (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-04-22 17:03
:cry:sorry I must have blinked or something! :red:
Parent - - By Mark Eldridge (****) [gb] Date 2011-04-22 20:03
6.Bd7
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-04-22 21:11
1.e4 c6 2.b3 d5 3.e5 e6 4.Nf3 c5 5.c3 Nc6 6.d4 Bd7 7.a3

r2qkbnr/pp1b1ppp/2n1p3/2ppP3/3P4/PPP2N2/5PPP/RNBQKB1R b KQkq - 0 7
Parent - - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-04-22 21:13
You have an interesting formation going on here. :lol:
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-04-22 21:15
its indeed strange i agree.
Parent - - By Christian Packi (****) [de] Date 2011-04-22 21:29
Let's be positive and call it flexible!
Parent - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-04-22 21:31
yes,you can certainly say that.a new game for every bookmaker,and not blitz.:smile:
Parent - - By Mark Eldridge (****) [gb] Date 2011-04-22 22:05
7.Rc8
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-04-22 23:33
Mark,the trouble is i am hardly going to play my main moves against  1...c6 in my friendly game against you.:smile:anyway it gives Nelson new games.
Parent - - By Mark Eldridge (****) [gb] Date 2011-04-23 00:19
No problem Paul every game we play is very interesting to me.:smile:
Parent - - By Nelson Hernandez (Silver) [us] Date 2011-04-23 01:21
You guys are not quite completely free from the gravitational pull of the book yet.  There have been potential moves all along that could have transposed you into positions seen before.  But you guys are skirting those options every time.  You just don't want me to be involved, I get it.
Parent - - By Mark Eldridge (****) [gb] Date 2011-04-23 10:50
With Paul's last move i now have 132 games in my database.
Parent - - By Nelson Hernandez (Silver) [us] Date 2011-04-23 11:57
Yep, and I have many more.  But you have a pretty big database, there!
Parent - - By Mark Eldridge (****) [gb] Date 2011-04-23 14:00
I ahve another database with 518 games on it. Still not as big as yours.
Parent - - By Nelson Hernandez (Silver) [us] Date 2011-04-23 15:24
Now you need to combine all the games from all the sources and remove doubles.
Parent - By Mark Eldridge (****) [gb] Date 2011-04-23 16:12
True, that would be a good idear
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2011-04-23 07:56
8.b4
Parent - - By Mark Eldridge (****) [gb] Date 2011-04-23 10:48
8.Cxd4
Parent - By Mark Eldridge (****) [gb] Date 2011-04-23 10:49
Sorry had caps on.
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