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Parent - By Nelson Hernandez (Gold) [us] Date 2011-02-27 18:17
I only provide aggregate success rate and % draws.  

If N=100 (hypothetically), success rate % = 38.0% and draw rate % = 33.2%, then

Black won (38.0-(33.2 / 2)) = 21.4 games and
White won (100 - 33.2 - 21.4) = 45.4 games

as you calculated above.
Parent - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-02-27 18:18
Sorry playing both moves in just a few minutes. I made one already.
Parent - - By Nelson Hernandez (Gold) [us] Date 2011-02-27 18:20 Edited 2011-02-27 18:29
If 12...Rc8 then white now has 68.0% and 26.7% draws.  Black's last move was fairly unusual but has transposed into a much more common position first seen in Chee$e-Mon$ter, Deep Fritz 8-Deep_dachi, Deep Fritz 8, 1-0, 2004.05.01.  The golden age!
Parent - By Banned for Life (Gold) Date 2011-02-27 18:38
I like this line because, as your database indicates, it is frequently decisive. This position is easier for black to screw up than white, which I think explains the much higher white win ratio, but I don't necessarily believe it's a bad position for black at cc time controls (or even in a freestyle with heavy preparation).
Parent - - By turbojuice1122 (Gold) [us] Date 2011-02-28 12:02
Okay, now we're finally far enough. :-)  I had been referring to 8.Qd2! Nc6 9.g4 immediately, and if black plays 8...d6, then white plays 9.0-0-0 and then reacts based on black's many possible moves.  I thought this gave white better opportunities, but perhaps not as much better as I originally thought.  Anyway, now we've transposed back into a more normal Sicilian, so just about anything is up for grabs here.
Parent - By Banned for Life (Gold) Date 2011-02-28 18:46
Black has better options after 8.Qd2.
- - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-02-27 18:39
TheHug vs Alan

1.e4 c5 2.Nc3 b6 3.Nf3 Bb7 4.d4 cxd4 5.Nxd4 a6 6.Be3 e6 7.f3 Nf6 8.Bd3 d6 9.Qd2 Nbd7 10.0-0-0 Ne5 11.Be2 b5 12.g4 Rc8 13.Kb1

2rqkb1r/1b3ppp/p2ppn2/1p2n3/3NP1P1/2N1BP2/PPPQB2P/1K1R3R b k - 0 13


Alan vs TheHug

1.b3 Nf6 2.Bb2 d5 3.Nf3 c5 4.e3 Nc6 5.Bb5 Bd7 6.0-0 e6 7.d4 cxd4 8.exd4 Bd6 9.Bd3 0-0 10.Re1 Qc7 11.a3 Rfe8

r3r1k1/ppqb1ppp/2nbpn2/3p4/3P4/PP1B1N2/1BP2PPP/RN1QR1K1 w - - 0 12


Here is the fen Alan
Parent - - By Nelson Hernandez (Gold) [us] Date 2011-02-27 19:23
First game: black with 53.1% and 31.3% draws, but getting deep enough into book that this means little.

Second game: still following Vidal-Chaves, only game in book.
Parent - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-02-27 19:39
Thank you Nelson.
- - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-02-28 18:53
TheHug vs Alan

1.e4 c5 2.Nc3 b6 3.Nf3 Bb7 4.d4 cxd4 5.Nxd4 a6 6.Be3 e6 7.f3 Nf6 8.Bd3 d6 9.Qd2 Nbd7 10.0-0-0 Ne5 11.Be2 b5 12.g4 Rc8 13.Kb1 Be7 14.g5

2rqk2r/1b2bppp/p2ppn2/1p2n1P1/3NP3/2N1BP2/PPPQB2P/1K1R3R b k - 0 14
Parent - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-02-28 20:05
Alan vs TheHug

1.b3 Nf6 2.Bb2 d5 3.Nf3 c5 4.e3 Nc6 5.Bb5 Bd7 6.0-0 e6 7.d4 cxd4 8.exd4 Bd6 9.Bd3 0-0 10.Re1 Qc7 11.a3 Rfe8 12.Ne5 Ne4

r3r1k1/ppqb1ppp/2nbp3/3pN3/3Pn3/PP1B4/1BP2PPP/RN1QR1K1 w - - 0 13
- By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-03-03 00:36
TheHug vs Alan

1.e4 c5 2.Nc3 b6 3.Nf3 Bb7 4.d4 cxd4 5.Nxd4 a6 6.Be3 e6 7.f3 Nf6 8.Bd3 d6 9.Qd2 Nbd7 10.0-0-0 Ne5 11.Be2 b5 12.g4 Rc8 13.Kb1 Be7 14.g5 Nfd7 15.f4

2rqk2r/1b1nbppp/p2pp3/1p2n1P1/3NPP2/2N1B3/PPPQB2P/1K1R3R b k - 0 15


Alan vs TheHug

1.b3 Nf6 2.Bb2 d5 3.Nf3 c5 4.e3 Nc6 5.Bb5 Bd7 6.0-0 e6 7.d4 cxd4 8.exd4 Bd6 9.Bd3 0-0 10.Re1 Qc7 11.a3 Rfe8 12.Ne5 Ne4 13.Bxe4 dxe4

r3r1k1/ppqb1ppp/2nbp3/4N3/3Pp3/PP6/1BP2PPP/RN1QR1K1 w - - 0 14
- By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-03-07 01:29 Edited 2011-03-10 00:02
TheHug vs Alan

1.e4 c5 2.Nc3 b6 3.Nf3 Bb7 4.d4 cxd4 5.Nxd4 a6 6.Be3 e6 7.f3 Nf6 8.Bd3 d6 9.Qd2 Nbd7 10.0-0-0 Ne5 11.Be2 b5 12.g4 Rc8 13.Kb1 Be7 14.g5 Nfd7 15.f4 b4 16.Nd5

Well at least the game got more interesting :lol:

2rqk2r/1b1nbppp/p2pp3/3Nn1P1/1p1NPP2/4B3/PPPQB2P/1K1R3R b k - 0 16


Alan vs TheHug

1.b3 Nf6 2.Bb2 d5 3.Nf3 c5 4.e3 Nc6 5.Bb5 Bd7 6.0-0 e6 7.d4 cxd4 8.exd4 Bd6 9.Bd3 0-0 10.Re1 Qc7 11.a3 Rfe8 12.Ne5 Ne4 13.Bxe4 dxe4 14.Nxd7 Qxd7

r3r1k1/pp1q1ppp/2nbp3/8/3Pp3/PP6/1BP2PPP/RN1QR1K1 w - - 0 15
- - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-03-10 00:00
TheHug vs Alan

1.e4 c5 2.Nc3 b6 3.Nf3 Bb7 4.d4 cxd4 5.Nxd4 a6 6.Be3 e6 7.f3 Nf6 8.Bd3 d6 9.Qd2 Nbd7 10.0-0-0 Ne5 11.Be2 b5 12.g4 Rc8 13.Kb1 Be7 14.g5 Nfd7 15.f4 b4 16.Nd5 exd5 17.Nf5

2rqk2r/1b1nbppp/p2p4/3pnNP1/1p2PP2/4B3/PPPQB2P/1K1R3R b k - 0 17


Alan vs TheHug

1.b3 Nf6 2.Bb2 d5 3.Nf3 c5 4.e3 Nc6 5.Bb5 Bd7 6.0-0 e6 7.d4 cxd4 8.exd4 Bd6 9.Bd3 0-0 10.Re1 Qc7 11.a3 Rfe8 12.Ne5 Ne4 13.Bxe4 dxe4 14.Nxd7 Qxd7 15.Rxe4 Rad8

3rr1k1/pp1q1ppp/2nbp3/8/3PR3/PP6/1BP2PPP/RN1Q2K1 w - - 0 16
Parent - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-03-10 00:02
I made a draw offer in both games as the next round is getting closer.
- - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-03-10 02:26
Both games agreed to a draw. Well I will probably see you in round 1 :smile: Good luck in the tournament to come Alan.
Parent - - By Banned for Life (Gold) Date 2011-03-10 20:18
Sounds like a bug in the software. I resigned in both games...
Parent - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-03-10 20:46
:lol:
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