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- - By j_futur (**) [mg] Date 2007-09-03 15:23
Hi,

Rybka GUI :
Is it possible to add the option of computer match on network RJ45 with share RS232?
I think it is possible with shredder GUI but not on Fritz GUI! Whereas there is laptop witch have not RS232 Socket nor
PCMCIA socket!

Thanks!
Parent - - By Permanent Brain (*****) Date 2007-09-03 18:51
What is "RJ45"?
Parent - By Razor (****) [gb] Date 2007-09-03 19:28
Ethernet connector - I believe he meant to say the abilty to set up chess programme tournaments between two PCs connected across a LAN or even a WAN network.
Parent - - By shogi64 (*) [us] Date 2007-09-03 20:34
Hi,

I just had similar type idea...comment was made before to allow inclusion or exclusion or analysis lines which i believe rybka team responded positively.

Would it not be possible to send sequential candidate moves to a second or even third machine (e.g. I don't build the ultimate 8 (16, ha) core machine, but put together 2 (3?)  overclocked 6600's or other similar setup?).  And would it be possible for a module to do this automatically...
May be asking too much...program would need to have "network awareness?"...there must be code already out there that "distributes the workload" in this fashion?

"Executive Function", C.O.O. (chief operating officer function), ha.  I would imagine not only "Send" but "Send/Retrieve & compare" play next move would be optimal.  Or is this just a stupid idea?   You could probably network 10 machines off of "main server" for the cost ($30,000) of what someone suggested to Larry and it would probably be much stronger.  So you get X machines branching factor analyzing horrifically deep their respective single move and executive plays next move based on comparision, then continue.

How would that be for DPA (deep position analysis) :-)  Hardware DPA. Then how about let main executive be playing rybka cluster vs. deep fritz.  Now make this work over internet where 10 Rybka Fans with strong machines join the partie!!  Great fun (and you would probably end up with 100 pages of game analysis, well isn't that shorter that Kasparov vs. the World, 10,000 pages?).  Sign me up when i get my dual Penryn, ha.  In that case you just need "Internet executive"--perhaps need static IP address for all for this to function?  Vas already has this setup in his basement. :-)  Now that would be a School of little fish!!

I am sure people are doing this in freestyle but manually entering multiple candidate moves on multiple machines?

Gracias
Parent - - By joshua2 (*) [us] Date 2007-09-04 02:44
That sounds like a great idea. I was thinking of suggest this in fact, and was musing differentl ways it might be possible to implement this. The main problem is bandwith connection between the processes, especially if it is done over the internet, it cannot be split the same way it would be split by just having more cores on the same computer. Now if a gigabyte ethernet connection is used, the bandwith might not be that limiting. Maybe have one computer analyze the top move, and have the other computer analyze all the other moves?
Parent - - By shogi64 (*) [us] Date 2007-09-04 06:07
Somebody mentioned FPGA before which Vas nixed, but is cheap if done in quantity, and at some point the eval fxn gets about as good as its going to get so put it on hardware. Then just keep adding boards to your rackmount with fiberoptic backplane and run the executive reverberator. :-)  you only need one OS and GUI.  Each chip analyzes one line (deeper than Kasparov).  Not a computer geek so don't ask me if anyone has invented a fiberoptic backplane yet, ha. :-)
Parent - By shogi64 (*) [us] Date 2007-09-04 06:16
Don't forget to invest in hard drive companies as we are all going to have 250GB opening books soon. :-)
Parent - - By tdh1967 (*) Date 2007-10-15 03:55
I would love to see the option of having two program play across a LAN without having to go through a server elsewhere.  This is the most realistic way to play program vs. program because on a single machine, permanent brain really must be off or it bogs down too much. 
Parent - By Zruty (*****) [ru] Date 2007-10-16 14:21
you can play such games even now via netchess.
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