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Parent - - By OneSlyJoker (**) [us] Date 2011-02-07 02:28
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 Nc6 7. Qd2 e6 8.
O-O-O Bd7 9. f4 h6 10. Bh4 b5 11. a3 Be7 12. Nb3...

Bet you were happy to see my 11. a3 vice 11. Bxf6 my frigid Mainer friend. How far have you explored this game I am curious.
Parent - By Weirwindle (***) [us] Date 2011-02-07 02:37
I have never explored this position nor have I started analysis. I only know about the couple thousand games played out of it.
Parent - - By Weirwindle (***) [us] Date 2011-02-07 02:39 Edited 2011-02-07 02:41
I will probably start soon since Nf3 isn't whites number 1 choice.
And it wasn't that cold today. It actual hit 30, just high enough to shovel my driveway in a T-shirt.
Parent - - By OneSlyJoker (**) [us] Date 2011-02-07 03:14
Well in a bizarre twist of fate Ive had no pants both pairs of my custom fit and hard to find jeans and I have been this week in shorts and undersized wind pants. ha! besides you probably don't work outdoors in ultra cold temps either...unless being from Maine you are a lobsterman...
Parent - - By Weirwindle (***) [us] Date 2011-02-07 03:24
You remember all those trees that I was talking about?
During winter vacation and weekends I'm usually in the woods chopping away for firewood. Else I'm either working on Tool Assisted Speed Runs, playing chess, or in school. LOL
University of Maine Electrical and Computer Engineering Student
Parent - By OneSlyJoker (**) [us] Date 2011-02-07 04:18
radical dude, thats hardcore. Now don't beat me in this game. I'd like to show my prowess or obsession in this game. I cant find Bxf6 as any better than 11. a3 my victory is up to u.
- - By Weirwindle (***) [us] Date 2011-02-07 17:11
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 Nc6 7. Qd2 e6 8.
O-O-O Bd7 9. f4 h6 10. Bh4 b5 11. a3 Be7 12. Nb3 Ra7
3qk2r/r2bbpp1/p1nppn1p/1p6/4PP1B/PNN5/1PPQ2PP/2KR1B1R w k - 0 13
Parent - - By OneSlyJoker (**) [us] Date 2011-02-07 18:46
Well that is a curious move, i must say I did not anticipate it, I'll have to do my homework on this move. Darn i was pulling for the steelers and they almost had it. one lousy interception at under two minutes to spare. Congrats to Aaron Rogers who will no longer live in Brett Favre's shadow any longer.
Parent - By Weirwindle (***) [us] Date 2011-02-07 20:18
I watched the first half and the Packers were kicking butt.
Then I saw the half time and shut it off.
Parent - By OneSlyJoker (**) [us] Date 2011-02-07 22:27
13. Rg1
- - By Weirwindle (***) [us] Date 2011-02-14 02:49
I'm surprised Rg1 wasn't in my opening book.

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 Nc6 7. Qd2 e6 8.
O-O-O Bd7 9. f4 h6 10. Bh4 b5 11. a3 Be7 12. Nb3 Ra7 13. Rg1 Rb7

3qk2r/1r1bbpp1/p1nppn1p/1p6/4PP1B/PNN5/1PPQ2PP/2KR1BR1 w k - 0 14
Parent - By OneSlyJoker (**) [us] Date 2011-02-14 23:14
14. g4
- - By Weirwindle (***) [us] Date 2011-02-16 23:38
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 Nc6 7. Qd2 e6 8.
O-O-O Bd7 9. f4 h6 10. Bh4 b5 11. a3 Be7 12. Nb3 Ra7 13. Rg1 Rb7 14. g4 b4

3qk2r/1r1bbpp1/p1nppn1p/8/1p2PPPB/PNN5/1PPQ3P/2KR1BR1 w k - 0 15
Parent - - By OneSlyJoker (**) [us] Date 2011-02-17 15:48 Edited 2011-02-17 19:49
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 Nc6 7. Qd2 e6 8.
O-O-O Bd7 9. f4 h6 10. Bh4 b5 11. a3 Be7 12. Nb3 Ra7 13. Rg1 Rb7 14. g4 b4 15. axb4

We had the most perfect weather last night on the rig floor nice cool breeze, I could work all year around on a night like yesterday. Praise God for giving us such a pleseant night to work in. Has Maine started to warm up any yet?
Parent - By Weirwindle (***) [us] Date 2011-02-17 16:44
Maine, not main. It hit 40 today.
- - By Weirwindle (***) [us] Date 2011-02-17 16:48
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 Nc6 7. Qd2 e6 8.
O-O-O Bd7 9. f4 h6 10. Bh4 b5 11. a3 Be7 12. Nb3 Ra7 13. Rg1 Rb7 14. g4 b4 15.
axb4 Rxb4

3qk2r/3bbpp1/p1nppn1p/8/1r2PPPB/1NN5/1PPQ3P/2KR1BR1 w k - 0 16
Parent - By OneSlyJoker (**) [us] Date 2011-02-17 22:25
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 Nc6 7. Qd2 e6 8.
O-O-O Bd7 9. f4 h6 10. Bh4 b5 11. a3 Be7 12. Nb3 Ra7 13. Rg1 Rb7 14. g4 b4 15.
axb4 Rxb4 16. Bxf6
- - By Weirwindle (***) [us] Date 2011-02-18 01:20
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 Nc6 7. Qd2 e6 8.
O-O-O Bd7 9. f4 h6 10. Bh4 b5 11. a3 Be7 12. Nb3 Ra7 13. Rg1 Rb7 14. g4 b4 15.
axb4 Rxb4 16. Bxf6 Bxf6

3qk2r/3b1pp1/p1nppb1p/8/1r2PPP1/1NN5/1PPQ3P/2KR1BR1 w k - 0 17
Parent - - By OneSlyJoker (**) [us] Date 2011-02-18 01:38
17. Qxd6
Parent - - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-02-18 01:40
Got to give the players a lot of credit for making this a very sharp game!
Parent - By OneSlyJoker (**) [us] Date 2011-02-18 01:41
Thank you hug. As we speak I am exploring moves and eliminating bad ones. Have been for most of the afternoon. Not bad for me only having a single core. Huh?
- - By Weirwindle (***) [us] Date 2011-02-18 03:41
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 Nc6 7. Qd2 e6 8.
O-O-O Bd7 9. f4 h6 10. Bh4 b5 11. a3 Be7 12. Nb3 Ra7 13. Rg1 Rb7 14. g4 b4 15.
axb4 Rxb4 16. Bxf6 Bxf6 17. Qxd6 Be7

3qk2r/3bbpp1/p1nQp2p/8/1r2PPP1/1NN5/1PP4P/2KR1BR1 w k - 0 18
Parent - By OneSlyJoker (**) [us] Date 2011-02-18 19:10
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 Nc6 7. Qd2 e6 8.
O-O-O Bd7 9. f4 h6 10. Bh4 b5 11. a3 Be7 12. Nb3 Ra7 13. Rg1 Rb7 14. g4 b4 15.
axb4 Rxb4 16. Bxf6 Bxf6 17. Qxd6 Be7 18. Qd2
- - By Weirwindle (***) [us] Date 2011-02-18 20:45
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 Nc6 7. Qd2 e6 8.
O-O-O Bd7 9. f4 h6 10. Bh4 b5 11. a3 Be7 12. Nb3 Ra7 13. Rg1 Rb7 14. g4 b4 15.
axb4 Rxb4 16. Bxf6 Bxf6 17. Qxd6 Be7 18. Qd2 O-O

3q1rk1/3bbpp1/p1n1p2p/8/1r2PPP1/1NN5/1PPQ3P/2KR1BR1 w - - 0 19
Parent - By OneSlyJoker (**) [us] Date 2011-02-18 22:12
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 Nc6 7. Qd2 e6 8.
O-O-O Bd7 9. f4 h6 10. Bh4 b5 11. a3 Be7 12. Nb3 Ra7 13. Rg1 Rb7 14. g4 b4 15.
axb4 Rxb4 16. Bxf6 Bxf6 17. Qxd6 Be7 18. Qd2 O-O 19. Rg3
- - By Weirwindle (***) [us] Date 2011-02-19 00:58
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 Nc6 7. Qd2 e6 8.
O-O-O Bd7 9. f4 h6 10. Bh4 b5 11. a3 Be7 12. Nb3 Ra7 13. Rg1 Rb7 14. g4 b4 15.
axb4 Rxb4 16. Bxf6 Bxf6 17. Qxd6 Be7 18. Qd2 O-O 19. Rg3 Qb6

5rk1/3bbpp1/pqn1p2p/8/1r2PPP1/1NN3R1/1PPQ3P/2KR1B2 w - - 0 20
Parent - - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-02-19 01:04
:eek:
Parent - - By Weirwindle (***) [us] Date 2011-02-19 01:06
What do you mean :eek:
Parent - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-02-19 01:13
I wondering if the Bishop is taboo or not.
Parent - - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-02-19 01:15
Never mind I see the result now. :lol:
Parent - By Weirwindle (***) [us] Date 2011-02-19 01:18
:lol: Better.
Parent - By OneSlyJoker (**) [us] Date 2011-02-20 15:28
20. h4

This seems to be my only real move. The other three moves only loose or draw. Alright Weirwindle, lets see if your great move is what i thought is was going to be.
- - By Weirwindle (***) [us] Date 2011-02-19 01:32 Edited 2011-02-19 03:12
If Nelson Hernandez has any input about this game, the 6... Nc6 opening, or white move 11. a3
I would like to hear it.
Parent - - By Weirwindle (***) [us] Date 2011-02-19 02:47
Stand by to be amazed by my next move Sly.
Parent - - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-02-19 02:59
That is an interesting statement considering he hasn't moved yet.
Parent - - By Weirwindle (***) [us] Date 2011-02-19 03:09
True, but my next move is going to happen whether he plays a certain move or not.
Parent - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-02-19 03:16
Well I see the tactical focal points. But without using an engine, I won't speculate
Parent - By Weirwindle (***) [us] Date 2011-02-19 03:10
It may even surprise you Hug.
Parent - - By OneSlyJoker (**) [us] Date 2011-02-20 03:37
If you are just now getting to the next move buddy we aren't playing the same game. I have plans for where the endgame will start. And I believe 13. Rg1 was one of the stronger moves in the game. 11. a3 has lack of momentum but isn't a bad move. Maybe i am vaultingly opptomistic, but I like my chances in this game. i just hope the game wont draw and it very well may. I wish you the best in your game. :) You sledom make the moves I anticipate its a bit odd neither of us have made bad moves so far, just some colorful combinations. Forgive me Weirwindle, I have been sick the past few days and have not been as diligent as I would have liked in my analysis. I promise you plenty of strong play yet to come.
Parent - - By Weirwindle (***) [us] Date 2011-02-20 03:51 Edited 2011-02-22 00:15
That is quite ok sly. Take all of the time you need. I have three tournaments keeping me busy.
Two on FICGS and WBCCC.
Hope you feel better and continue to give me a good game,
Timothy
Parent - - By OneSlyJoker (**) [us] Date 2011-02-20 14:51
Have learned a valuable lesson by lukas during this game. AMD computers, while great for games and floating point math, are inefficient at the integer its sad when my single core I3 does tasks in chess better than my quad amd I just started to rent. I'm going to take it back and get a dual core intel. IDeA is a pain in the place the sun doesn't shine. I was having it tree out a few positions last night and I woke up a few minutes ago and it had gone back to the very beginning and explored every move in the game looking for alternatives and actually playing them. What a mess! I like it because you can go forward and backward on the lines to see where the game will be taken, but I don't think its using my tablebases. Also my engine settings such as cache are not staying where I set them. Do you use IDeA or just sandbox for analysis? This is my first serious correspondence game and any pointers by anybody would be vastly appreciated.

-Jordan aka "Too Tall"
Parent - - By Weirwindle (***) [us] Date 2011-02-20 15:42 Edited 2011-02-20 15:49
Once you know everything IDeA and its functions it become an invaluable tool.
For very long time controls like correspondence chess games it is superior to IA.
My first game on rybkaforum against Sekos was analysed only with AI (IDeA was next to useless on a previous version of aquarium) and I was happy to come away with a draw as white.
I think your problem may be your IDeA analysis controls. Tips: Never use a setting that will only allow < 10 depth per task search.
Do not play around with ply search controls. Time controls are adequate enough.
For my quality control I usually do 15 < seconds < 30 or 30 plies with max time equal to seconds. Set at higher time for lower middle game and faster for middle endgame.
For my Dual Core this gives me about 5000 positions per day each at about 15-18 depth depending on position in game.
Width between 40% and 70%. I like to limit black and white alternatives to 9. Your problem may be limiting your variation length.
While setting new root nodes you need to be delicate with your depth vs width. Why spend you day analyzing a move 10 depth in when it is easily overcome with better analysis earlier in your search?
Parent - - By OneSlyJoker (**) [us] Date 2011-02-20 15:48
Thanks Tim, you have been most informative. Please tell me you were expecting 20. h4 or at least that you agree with it.
Parent - By Weirwindle (***) [us] Date 2011-02-20 15:52
Yes I agree with it. It was your only move besides 20. Na2...Ra4 21. g4 line.
Parent - By OneSlyJoker (**) [us] Date 2011-02-20 15:24
Hmm, upon further and much closer analysis, i see that you are in fact correct and you do have a move coming that is going to give me trouble. I was .41 ahead of you...I'll have to go back sometime and figure out what went wrong.
Parent - - By Nelson Hernandez (Gold) [us] Date 2011-02-19 04:23

> the 6... Nc6 opening


Playable, my #2 move in book, 46.4% success rate, 42.0% draw rate (higher than 6...e6 and 6...Nbd7, but not as much as 6...Bd7).  I prefer the main line of 6...e6 here slightly.

> white move 11. a3


Also playable, again my #2 move in book, 42.1% success rate, 44.6% draw rate.  An interesting position on two grounds: positive white evaluations are in conflict with empirical results, and if you ELO-adjust the position you see that white players have faced stronger black players to a surprising degree in the many thousands of games I have.  As a result 42.1% is understated and in actuality ought to be apprised at about 48%.

I would definitely prefer 11.Bxf6 here, though.  (A bold move might be 11.f5.) 

Novelty move was 13.Rg1.
Parent - By Weirwindle (***) [us] Date 2011-02-19 04:34
Thanks for that.
I have played 11. f5 in a FICGS game.
All analysis by both players root back to 11. f5 as a perfect 0.00. The lines were extremely tight.
- - By Weirwindle (***) [us] Date 2011-02-20 15:47
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 Nc6 7. Qd2 e6 8.
O-O-O Bd7 9. f4 h6 10. Bh4 b5 11. a3 Be7 12. Nb3 Ra7 13. Rg1 Rb7 14. g4 b4 15.
axb4 Rxb4 16. Bxf6 Bxf6 17. Qxd6 Be7 18. Qd2 O-O 19. Rg3 Qb6 20. h4 a5

5rk1/3bbpp1/1qn1p2p/p7/1r2PPPP/1NN3R1/1PPQ4/2KR1B2 w - - 0 21
Parent - - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2011-02-20 15:50
Was this your shock move?
Parent - - By Weirwindle (***) [us] Date 2011-02-20 15:54
Always with the negative waves from you Hug.
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