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Up Topic Rybka Support & Discussion / Rybka Discussion / Will there or won't there be a Rybka 5 UCI?
- - By fncll (*) [us] Date 2010-12-31 18:52
I'm confused by some of the subtext of the Rybka Cluster discussion. Some make it sound as if Rybka 4 is the end of the line for Rybka UCI and that future development will all be on Rybka Remote? Does this mean the Rybka 4.X branch is the last I will be able to purchase and run locally?
Parent - - By sarciness (***) [gb] Date 2010-12-31 18:54
Almost certainly there will be a Rybka 5 you can run on your home computer. My guess is that Cluster will always be several steps ahead though.
Parent - By ppipper (*****) [es] Date 2010-12-31 19:46
-1, sorry
Parent - - By mdraith (**) [de] Date 2010-12-31 18:59

> Some make it sound as if Rybka 4 is the end of the line for Rybka UCI and that future development will all be on Rybka Remote?


As Vas already said, this is not the case. Maybe the cluster project drives innovation for the retail engine. And it's not clear yet if the Rybka cluster will really be a success.
Parent - - By Gaмßito (****) [cr] Date 2010-12-31 20:08 Edited 2011-01-01 01:55
I wish Vas the best, but the rental buisness is definitely not for me, nor for a normal customer.

I want to have the program in my personal computer, and spend with it all the time I want. Simple as that. And regards to the expensive price, if I had that money I honestly prefer to buy a monster hardware with 16 or even more cores, to use Rybka 4 UCI.

Regards,
Gaмßito.
Parent - By Goran Trajkoski 02 (*) [mk] Date 2011-01-01 21:58
Me to. Sure if I want to pay 500 Euro it will be of course for Hardware. I am not to much strong in chess (2000) so 3260 for Rybka 4 for my i7 laptop or 3500(or maybe 3600) for the cluster is not makeking things diffrent. Yes of corse i am evaluating some position for maybe 15 min to have right seeing the position but that's all.
Parent - By M ANSARI (*****) [kw] Date 2010-12-31 21:31
For sure there will be a Rybka 5 UCI.
Parent - - By Vasik Rajlich (Silver) [pl] Date 2011-01-01 10:36
Don't worry! :smile: There definitely will be a Rybka 5.

The Rybka Cluster is a parallel track which complements and feeds the public Rybka versions. Almost all of the work which is really specific to the Rybka Cluster has been done by Lukas. 99.9% of the work which I have done for the Rybka Cluster has long-term value and will be used in future public Rybka versions in various forms. This even includes the extreme form of tree splitting which the cluster uses.

It will still take some more time to get everything set up, though. In the meantime, users of the public Rybka versions (which is the vast majority of this forum) will need to be a little bit patient. I'm sorry about that. I'd love to have something better for you, but at this point the most important thing is to set things up for the long haul.

Vas

ps. I wish everyone a great 2011! :smile:
Parent - - By tomgdrums (****) Date 2011-01-01 15:01
On a totally different subject...what do you think happened to Donovan and Shanahan??

I am kind of surprised at how bad that flamed out.  I REALLY like Donovan and want him to end his career on some high notes!!
Parent - - By Vasik Rajlich (Silver) [pl] Date 2011-01-02 08:54
Yeah, I was pretty amazed what a train wreck that turned out to be. It was a combination of ultra-demanding coach, a very laid-back quarterback, and a bad season by said quarterback.

I'm sure that McNabb will start somewhere next year, but apparently not in Washington.

Vas
Parent - - By Arrière Pensée (Gold) Date 2011-01-03 03:58

> Yeah, I was pretty amazed what a train wreck that turned out to be. It was a combination of ultra-demanding coach, a very laid-back quarterback, and a bad season by said quarterback.


> I'm sure that McNabb will start somewhere next year, but apparently not in Washington.


Is this what we're paying you for? :grin: (or, just one of the things! :yell:)
Parent - - By Vasik Rajlich (Silver) [pl] Date 2011-01-03 18:59
That's not a bad idea! :twisted:

Vas
Parent - By Arrière Pensée (Gold) Date 2011-01-03 19:55
:lol::smile::grin:
Parent - - By titanium cranium (***) [us] Date 2011-01-01 16:59
Vas,
Just focus on fixing the R4 bugs, and all will be good.
Parent - By Vasik Rajlich (Silver) [pl] Date 2011-01-02 08:54
Yes, I know. :smile:

Vas
Parent - - By Geomusic (*****) Date 2011-01-02 14:39
"extreme tree-spliting"
you using this vas?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kldc_R9yfmQ&feature=related
Parent - By Akbarfan (***) Date 2011-01-02 19:26
:smile::smile::smile:
Parent - By Vasik Rajlich (Silver) [pl] Date 2011-01-03 19:03
More than one way to split a tree ..

Vas
Parent - - By titanium cranium (***) [us] Date 2011-01-01 14:14
Software guys are always issue updates, don't they? I mean, if he doesn't issue updates, the other programs will blow by him.
Parent - - By Ray (****) Date 2011-01-01 14:37

> Software guys are always issue updates, don't they?


Some do, some don't. Shredder is an example where you don't get any.
An annual release cycle with no updates in between does come with the risk that you have highlighted
Parent - By mdraith (**) [de] Date 2011-01-01 14:46
For me as a customer, I expect bugs to be fixed in a timely manner.
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2011-01-02 03:56

> Shredder is an example where you don't get any.


And an example where you don't need any. I've yet to find a bug in their engine or GUI, to my surprise when I was challenged. People have reported crashes and the like, but not facing those I can only assume they're system issues.

It seems to me that Shredder has a much better beta testing process than Rybka. Different priorities, much more solid engine, though also much weaker.
Parent - By tomgdrums (****) Date 2011-01-02 05:41
+1

I have never had an issue with Shredder products!!  I have Shredder for Android as well and it is awesome!!

Shredder was the first engine/GUI I ever purchased so I do have a soft spot for it.  :)  But that soft spot has been rewarded by Shredder's consistency and quality. (same goes for Hiarcs!)  And Shredder also provides a great opening book and access to the huge book  via internet connection.
Parent - By ppipper (*****) [es] Date 2011-01-03 15:25 Edited 2011-01-03 15:28
I don't think so, at least in next 1-2 years. We already have R4, which is super engine and still will be in such a period of time
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