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Parent - By AnnabelleR [pk] Date 2010-12-03 05:53
Downloaded successfully and it is working fine ...
Parent - By Felix Kling (Gold) [de] Date 2010-12-01 16:18
I can confirm that "edit annotation" via right click in the tree window doesn't work.
Parent - - By Nick (*****) [gb] Date 2010-12-01 17:33

> Possibly we can write this script to show how the Aqscripter may work.


Well if you have time, I think that would be a great example.  It is possible that Dadi may have some experience here or done this already as we did some analysis on CCRL book exits in the Rybka 4 beta testing timeframe.

> In what form do you want to see the results?


Not sure what options are available to aqscripter output.  My own program creates pgn files in a directory with both the eval and book exit number in the filename, separated into "white" and "black" directories.   So like 0.70-20.pgn .. the key is that these can be easily sorted.  I guess anything that can be sorted is the desired output, the book maker is looking for someone who stays in book longer than his opponent and comes out with a good book exit evaluation.  Or even stays in book all the way to the end of the game and wins.

Also, I have to say that adding and changing engines on the fly is really useful with 4.0.6, I tested this feature both in IDeA and in engines doing IA.  Feels very solid.
Parent - - By Victor Zakharov (*****) [ru] Date 2010-12-01 18:23 Edited 2010-12-01 19:13
Ok, I think tomorrow the script will be published.
Parent - By Victor Zakharov (*****) [ru] Date 2010-12-03 15:05
Nick, I sent a pm to you.

There is a draft script. But it is much larger than I expected.  For providing more functionality there is need to have more specific goals to prevent wasting time for unessential features.
Parent - - By Linus (***) [at] Date 2010-12-02 17:25
I installed 4.06 and I don't see my database games. The list of games is there, but when I am double clicking a game I get an empty window. What am I doing wrong?
Parent - - By Victor Zakharov (*****) [ru] Date 2010-12-02 17:42
My guess that you specified wrong Aquarium Data folder during installation. Setup is not always capable to discover Aqurium Data folder for earlier versions.

What Aquarium version you had before and what folders you specified during installation?
Parent - - By Victor Zakharov (*****) [ru] Date 2010-12-02 17:44
Aquarium data folder is the folder where you have ABases, ATrees and other subfolders that can be changed during Aquarium work.
Parent - - By Victor Zakharov (*****) [ru] Date 2010-12-02 17:45
It is possible to run setup once more and to specify valid Data folder
Parent - By Linus (***) [at] Date 2010-12-02 17:51
OK, that did the trick. Thank you.
Parent - By Linus (***) [at] Date 2010-12-02 17:45
I installed all updates which were officially released. So I had whatever version was before 4.06 (possibly 4.05).

During installation it asked me for a personal data folder. Since I did not have one before I specified an empty folder. How can I correct that?
Parent - By Sciolto (***) [nl] Date 2010-12-02 18:43
Did a clean install up to and including 4.02 before installing this 4.06 RC.
Analyzed a position in the sandbox with the newly released Critter 0.9 and noticed that I could add multiple lines at once to the notation pane. In the next 36 hours I added 2 more positions to analyze and after that time I decided it was time to save the notation from the sandbox into a newly created database. At that point I started to get access violations constantly and I was not able to save the analysis. The analysis wasn't even there anymore in the sandbox. All the analysis vanished before I could save it. A few more repeating access violations before I had to end the Aquarium task the hard way. I was a bit worried about the long delay after the initial announcement. Usually software is stable before you add new functions and if you add a lot of new functionality this more often than not leads to many many bugs. In my opinion this software is FAR from release worthy. I will stick with the old version until there are no longer access violations. I have experienced too much loss of hard analysis with buggy software. New functionality isn't worth anything when data integrity is compromised. I don't want to be a beta tester, just a user.
Attachment: Aquarium.elf (354k)
Parent - - By opus7 (*) Date 2010-12-07 13:37
Not sure if I've missed something, but I cannot access the scripter.   I can browse the available ones, but the show/hide button does nothing....as ( seemingly ) does the run button.

Also not sure what the Game Index option does in the database : it just locked Aquarium for 3 or 4 minutes !
Parent - - By nebulus (****) [no] Date 2010-12-07 14:09

> Not sure if I've missed something, but I cannot access the scripter.   I can browse the available ones, but the show/hide button does nothing....as ( seemingly ) does the run button.


http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforum/topic_show.pl?pid=292704

> Also not sure what the Game Index option does in the database : it just locked Aquarium for 3 or 4 minutes


Do you mean Opening Index? It classifies a game according to ECO.
Parent - - By opus7 (*) Date 2010-12-07 14:14
Yes, I do, and I realised that it should do that, but the ECO field does not seem to be in the database ! I thought it might add it, but no...  BTW the database is a DSN format, which is maybe why.

The scripter issue I still cannot get around
Parent - - By nebulus (****) [no] Date 2010-12-07 15:51
No, I don't think ECO column is available in DNS databases. Anyway, you can see ECO and use "Opening Index" from the inside of the game.

> The scripter issue I still cannot get around


Switch to Scripter tab, click Show/Hide so it's active, activate window as Victor has shown.
Parent - By opus7 (*) Date 2010-12-07 16:22
Wow ! that's very well hidden...thanks, I can see it now...
Parent - - By RadioMan (*) [nl] Date 2010-12-08 10:58
Hi Victor, you said that 4.0.6 will be available on chessok.com in a day or two, I bought Rybka there last friday and I still got 4.0.5, but that's not the reason for this question, I thought you meant that it downloading through the chessok downloader, but everytime I start that it says nothing to download and there are no updates available.
Is this downloader still working or should I only keep an eye on the forums from now on to check for a new release?  Now I downloaded this file from here, but somehow I think I shouldn't do that.
Parent - - By Felix Kling (Gold) [de] Date 2010-12-08 14:31
The Downloader isn't used anymore to spread updates afaik. The official release is delayed, there are some bugs that are being fixed, so it was good to have that "unofficial" release.

If you want the latest version, this forum is the best place I think.
Parent - - By Overlord (**) [it] Date 2010-12-08 16:10 Edited 2010-12-08 16:16
So there will be a 4.0.7 to install over "unofficial 4.0.6"?
Parent - - By Felix Kling (Gold) [de] Date 2010-12-08 16:33
there will be an official 4.0.6 :)
Parent - - By Dhanish (***) [in] Date 2010-12-09 06:11

> there will be an official 4.0.6 :)


Now we have various versions of 4.0.6 with different build numbers!

Next we will have same build numbers but different md5 files for the exe.
Parent - By Felix Kling (Gold) [de] Date 2010-12-09 10:24
if you don't like that, don't download unofficial releases ;)
Parent - - By retep1 (***) [de] Date 2010-12-09 16:25
is build 362 the latest?
Parent - - By Vempele (Silver) [fi] Date 2010-12-09 16:34
I have 365, but I think it's for testers only.
Parent - - By retep1 (***) [de] Date 2010-12-09 19:03
thx for the info. Can you check the following - see the picture.
I have annotated the move 12. ..Sgf6, but it will not be displayed in the tree.
Attachment: annotation-retep1.jpg (605k)
Parent - - By Dadi Jonsson (Silver) [is] Date 2010-12-09 19:11
If you annotated it after building the tree, then that's the explanation. You could also have added this annotation directly to the tree.
Parent - - By retep1 (***) [de] Date 2010-12-09 22:39
I have annotated the move 11. Da5 and the Move 11. Sgf6  after building the tree directly to the tree by cklicking the menu "Annotate" and then "long after move" and entering the text. The annotation 11. Da5 is displayed, the annotation 1. Sgf6 not (see the picture in my post above). What could be the reason?
Parent - - By Vempele (Silver) [fi] Date 2010-12-10 07:16 Edited 2010-12-10 07:18
How do you get "long after"? I only have "Long Before" and "Long".
Parent - - By retep1 (***) [de] Date 2010-12-10 10:17
I mean this:
Parent - - By Vempele (Silver) [fi] Date 2010-12-10 10:20
That's for game comments. Tree tab->Annotate.
Parent - - By retep1 (***) [de] Date 2010-12-10 10:34
OK. my fault. I missed the drop-down menu. it must be the move(Sgf6) not "position" (default).
Attachment: annotation-tree-tab.jpg (680k)
Parent - - By RadioMan (*) [nl] Date 2010-12-13 16:14
Can I ask a stupid question, please don't be offended by this.

Why do you comment in english, but use german notation?  I mean Sgf6 is Ngf6 in english.
I know I have the same problems from time to time, reading dutch and english notation, I could imagine you changed the comments to english just because you wanted to make this screenshot, but it just reads kind of strange this way.
Parent - - By Felix Kling (Gold) [de] Date 2010-12-13 16:25
I guess that was not intended ;)
Parent - By RadioMan (*) [nl] Date 2010-12-13 16:37
I am sure it wasn't, but I just had to ask about this, don't know what S stands for though, in dutch it is P which stands for Paard, horse in english and Pferd in german ofcourse.
I hope that he doesn't need to go through all his analysis to change these names, after I brought this up...... oow boy, somehow I can always find a way to get people to hate me.
Parent - By retep1 (***) [de] Date 2010-12-13 18:26

>>Why do you comment in english?


These comments are imported from the Chessbase Mega-Database.

S=Springer (in german) (=knight ). I forgott to change the notation.
Parent - - By Loboestepario (****) [us] Date 2010-12-15 14:30
All these links are broken...
Parent - - By Vempele (Silver) [fi] Date 2010-12-15 14:32
They all work for me.
Parent - By Loboestepario (****) [us] Date 2010-12-15 17:54
Thanks, it seems to be ISP related I was able to download from my office.
Parent - By retep1 (***) [de] Date 2011-03-02 16:20
opening chessplanet it crashes in build 386 - but after clicking OK I can login. Fixed in 4.0.7?
Attachment: crashchessplanet.jpg (37k)
Parent - By The Truth (**) [de] Date 2011-07-16 08:19
Is there standalone version of bookadapter 406? I got old standalone version from here: http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforum/topic_show.pl?tid=10715 and it has 3-fold repetition bug, that is when there is pending 3-fold repetition and still in book (near book exit) the engine will hang and would not send any moves if the opponent plays a different move that exits the book and the 3-fold repetition. It also triggers if book exits or reached move limit while there is pending 3 move repetition at the position of the book exit. Is this fixed in version 406?
- - By goslinga [ca] Date 2010-12-03 06:37
I tried to install the new Aquarium but it seems my key is invalid. Now it does not work anymore. What I do?
Parent - - By RadioMan (*) [nl] Date 2010-12-15 16:12
Just curious, since nobody responds to your post, did you find a solution to your problems?  I always hate it when I have to enter the serial key during an update, and I realized that after having bought this online in the download version they never sent me an email with the serial number, except on a page that opened after I paid.  Luckilly I wrote these numbers down, so now it's case that I don't loose them, only forgot to write the serial of Rybka4 opening book.
Anyway, maybe you did write down the serial, but made a mistake somewhere or something.
Parent - - By keoki010 (Silver) [us] Date 2010-12-15 20:39
contacting chessok usually gets you a reply the same day.  Put the serial number in a txt file and cut&paste it when you need to.
Parent - By RadioMan (*) [nl] Date 2010-12-16 10:52
Yes, I also have a file with serials, infact it's a database, but I once had a computer crash and it took me forever to find them, ofcourse I made a backup of that file, but even when I am carefull I don't always make a backup, anyway I also write the numbers down on paper and you could say ofcourse why not print it, but then I would have to use another piece of paper everytime.... I am not cheap, but I do have a problem with unnecessary paper consumption.

Anyway, since software vendors always say to write down the serial number, I think alot of people do this and that might have been the problem that he is having and also that you don't get a serial number sent by email after your purchase.

And yes, if you write to sales@convekta.com they will help you further, eventually I will do that myself with the serial of rybka4 opening book, but the thing is, right now I have it installed allready, so don't need the serial number at the moment.

Just thought it was sad that nobody offered any help after a couple of days, so I was curious if his problem was solved by now.
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