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The latest CCRL Rating Lists and Statistics are available for viewing from the following links:
http://computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040/ (40/40)
http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/404/ (40/4)
http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/404FRC/ (FRC 40/4)
Please note that the three lists are updated separately to each other.
The links given in each update report will give you the currently up to date lists.
The links to the various rating lists can be found just beneath the default Best Versions list (as in this screenshot). Specific 32-bit rating lists are denoted as such to the right of the default list in each category. The default lists contain the 64-bit engines.
Our 40 moves in 40 minutes repeating and 40 moves in 4 minutes repeating are both adjusted to the AMD64 X2 4600+ (2.4GHz).
Currently active testers are Graham Banks, Ray Banks, Shaun Brewer, Adam Hair, Aser Huerga, Kirill Kryukov, Dom Leste, Denis Mendoza, Cody Rowland, Wassim Saeed, Joshua Shriver, Charles Smith, Gabor Szots and Martin Thoresen.
Be aware that in the early stages of testing, an engine's rating can often fluctuate a lot.
It is strongly advised to look at the many other rating lists available in order to get a more accurate overall picture of an engine's rating relative to others.
The LOS (likelihood of superiority) stats to the right hand side of each rating list tell you the likelihood in percentage terms of each engine being superior to the engine directly below them.
All games are available for download by engine, by month or by ECO code.
The current ELO ratings are saved in all game databases for those engines that have 200 games or more.
Clicking on an engine name will give details as to opponents played plus homepage links where applicable.
Custom lists of engines can be selected for comparison.
An openings report page lists the number of games played by ECO codes with draw percentage and White win percentage. Clicking on a column heading will sort the list by that column.
For any testers interested in joining our group, please read our homepage before applying.
http://computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040/ (40/40)
http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/404/ (40/4)
http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/404FRC/ (FRC 40/4)
Please note that the three lists are updated separately to each other.
The links given in each update report will give you the currently up to date lists.
The links to the various rating lists can be found just beneath the default Best Versions list (as in this screenshot). Specific 32-bit rating lists are denoted as such to the right of the default list in each category. The default lists contain the 64-bit engines.
Our 40 moves in 40 minutes repeating and 40 moves in 4 minutes repeating are both adjusted to the AMD64 X2 4600+ (2.4GHz).
Currently active testers are Graham Banks, Ray Banks, Shaun Brewer, Adam Hair, Aser Huerga, Kirill Kryukov, Dom Leste, Denis Mendoza, Cody Rowland, Wassim Saeed, Joshua Shriver, Charles Smith, Gabor Szots and Martin Thoresen.
Be aware that in the early stages of testing, an engine's rating can often fluctuate a lot.
It is strongly advised to look at the many other rating lists available in order to get a more accurate overall picture of an engine's rating relative to others.
The LOS (likelihood of superiority) stats to the right hand side of each rating list tell you the likelihood in percentage terms of each engine being superior to the engine directly below them.
All games are available for download by engine, by month or by ECO code.
The current ELO ratings are saved in all game databases for those engines that have 200 games or more.
Clicking on an engine name will give details as to opponents played plus homepage links where applicable.
Custom lists of engines can be selected for comparison.
An openings report page lists the number of games played by ECO codes with draw percentage and White win percentage. Clicking on a column heading will sort the list by that column.
For any testers interested in joining our group, please read our homepage before applying.
![[mx]](/mwf/v12/flags/mx.png "Mexico")
Still no sight of Stockfish 1.8 at 40/40.
> Still no sight of Stockfish 1.8 at 40/40
It's there. Look harder.
Ah! Thanks.
[Currently] 40 elo short of Rybka 4, Stockfish 2.0 would be terrific if they manage just 25 elo improvement between versions!
[Currently] 40 elo short of Rybka 4, Stockfish 2.0 would be terrific if they manage just 25 elo improvement between versions!
> Ah! Thanks.
>
> [Currently] 40 elo short of Rybka 4, Stockfish 2.0 would be terrific if they manage just 25 elo improvement between versions!
I have a feeling that Critter might surpass both before long.
And I thought Komodo would do that first.
Exciting times, people only focusing on Rybka are the bored ones, though, a Rybka 4 update that burninates everything in sight is still in my dreams
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Nah, Critter and Stockfish merge into one becoming the dreaded Critterfish!! Gobbles up Rybka fish until it's out of stock!
I always dreamed about some Frankenstein engine, I mean, can't the best things of open source be merged to create a metaengine? With only the best of the best of each known part of a chess engine, the best null move, the best move generation, every part of evaluation and search to be the best known, and things are replaced as better methods are discovered.
It would require a joint effort between all open source programmers, but what would be the result? It should be an always stronger engine. The main thing that worries me about Stockfish is its terrible hash management, that is like if you kept clearing the hash every time, but the times I've commented it I've been ignored, and each new version of Stockfish has this problem, which makes me think it may never be resolved.
A Frankensteinish engine would have the best open source hash management, I can only imagine how much of an improvement it could give.
Critter isn't much better in this area, but it at least remembers critical refutations of its lines. Look at Zappa Mexico, if your engine can't manage hash like that, you're doing it wrong!
It would require a joint effort between all open source programmers, but what would be the result? It should be an always stronger engine. The main thing that worries me about Stockfish is its terrible hash management, that is like if you kept clearing the hash every time, but the times I've commented it I've been ignored, and each new version of Stockfish has this problem, which makes me think it may never be resolved.
A Frankensteinish engine would have the best open source hash management, I can only imagine how much of an improvement it could give.
Critter isn't much better in this area, but it at least remembers critical refutations of its lines. Look at Zappa Mexico, if your engine can't manage hash like that, you're doing it wrong!
Actually that's one of the reasons I wanted to register on talk chess. I was going to suggest a 'community engine' in their programming section, because I have seen many times that someone starts an open source engine and people start talking about it and improving it. Usually these engines are done by hobbyists and they don't reach the strength level of the stockfish/critter etc, although there's no reason why it couldn't.
I was thinking that the Vas haters (aka most talkchess forum members) would be hot on the idea because they would have a chance to do what they feel Vas has let them down on, and a chance to make a stronger, and also free engine.
I figure everyone would at the very least learn a lot about engine programming, and I am sure some of the seasoned professionals like hyatt would be willing to help.
..but they won't activate my account so I guess I won't be posting anything.
I was thinking that the Vas haters (aka most talkchess forum members) would be hot on the idea because they would have a chance to do what they feel Vas has let them down on, and a chance to make a stronger, and also free engine.
I figure everyone would at the very least learn a lot about engine programming, and I am sure some of the seasoned professionals like hyatt would be willing to help.
..but they won't activate my account so I guess I won't be posting anything.
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