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Parent - By Vasik Rajlich (Silver) Date 2010-06-13 11:20

> Always hard to know when a new style of product hits the market how the price/volume trade off will work.  But my gut feel is that if it was pitched lower the higher take up levels would more than compensate so that the overall profit would be much higher.


Yes.

> (On the other hand it is easier to start with high prices and drop them than start with low prices and raise them.)


Yes, and corrolary: if you're going to make estimates about a product which doesn't exist yet, don't shoot too low. In theory, anyway - please don't quote me on that. :smile:

Vas
Parent - - By Vasik Rajlich (Silver) Date 2010-06-13 11:17

> An hour for 50 cores ?


Yes, for 50 separate minimal instances. I'd prefer to stay away from the term "core", that's an implementation detail.

Vas
Parent - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) Date 2010-06-18 23:31
no matter what you say i will never buy into cloud.i like freedom.i dont mind spending money on big hardware,that is part of the fun.when i get my next build unleash Lukas on me.i am very confident i can hold my own at corr time controls.
Parent - - By Nelson Hernandez (Gold) Date 2010-06-12 15:51
I totally disagree on that meter, Vas.  I think a meter would be extremely helpful, with no minimum.  Some people (like me) would love to run a smallish cluster for one hour or less...and never again.  For under 20 euros my curiosity would be permanently satisfied.  And what do you care if there are dozens of people like me?  Those little drops in the bucket are worth something too, right?
Parent - - By Regularuser (***) Date 2010-06-12 16:03
I would also find the metered method good, albeit for completely different reasons.

I see it a bit like topping up a pre-pay mobile/cell phone.   Nobody has a problem with doing that so I can't see the problem for rental Rybka.
Parent - By Vasik Rajlich (Silver) Date 2010-06-13 11:24
For a cluster, absolutely, you would need to have a meter. If you don't need a meter when you're running a machine like that, I think we should talk. :smile:

The issue is that you want to have a package which costs around 100 Euro, and which can be used without having to even think about a clock.

Vas
Parent - - By Vasik Rajlich (Silver) Date 2010-06-13 11:25

> Some people (like me) would love to run a smallish cluster for one hour or less...and never again.


Just a warning: once you use great hardware, it's hard to go back. :smile:

Vas
Parent - - By Nelson Hernandez (Gold) Date 2010-06-13 11:39
It is very possible to go from leasing a Mercedes to leasing a Mini-Cooper.  (I have no trouble conceiving it, anyway.)  But it's almost impossible to think of buying a top-end Mercedes and replacing it with a Mini-Cooper.  That would be a come-down of gigantic proportions.  The Mini-Cooper dealer, upon seeing your trade-in, would be thinking "are you ****ing kidding me?!  What happened to you, man?"

The psychology is totally different between buying and leasing.
Parent - By Carl Bicknell (*****) Date 2010-06-13 11:57

> The psychology is totally different between buying and leasing.


Shrewd point. Understanding this makes a big difference.
Parent - - By Lukas Cimiotti (Bronze) Date 2010-06-13 12:33
I don't know if I can really agree.
Last year in our USA trip, I leased a GMC Yukon. Coming back home I found out that I couldn't live with my VW Passat anymore. I had to buy an SUV
Parent - - By Nelson Hernandez (Gold) Date 2010-06-13 14:53
You leased one car and bought another.  Two different types of transactions.  Think of my analogy this way: a car you buy and own is like a woman you marry.  It's a long commitment (though of course not a lifetime commitment when we are talking cars).  A car you lease is like a woman with whom you have a very short-term relationship.

So in your case you ditched your wife (the Passat) and married a woman with whom you first had an affair (the SUV).  It's all right.  This has been known to happen!

Returning to my point: with no personal ties of commitment it is very easy to jump from one system to another, both up and down the power/cost scale.  But once you have a personal commitment to the a particular machine or set-up, to some extent it becomes a reflection of your personality, aspirations, idiosyncrasies.
Parent - By Vasik Rajlich (Silver) Date 2010-06-14 06:02
It really depends on how awesome the SUV is! :smile:

Vas
Parent - By Vasik Rajlich (Silver) Date 2010-06-14 06:01
When you rent the cluster, you should probably have some sort of game plan for this problem. For example, maybe you should put a huge sign above your monitor that says "I am only renting.". :smile:

Vas
Parent - By M ANSARI (*****) Date 2010-06-14 09:05
How true that is.
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