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- - By Alkelele (****) Date 2007-06-18 16:30 Edited 2007-06-18 16:56
As encouraged by Nelson Hernandez, a small update to some unauthorized statistics. Any false information is purely my responsibility ;-)

As far as I'm aware, Rybka has participated in all 9 major official tournaments since she was first released on December 4th 2005. She has been the clear (unshared) winner in 8 of them, and then she shared 2nd place in one.

Here are the tournaments in chronological order, with the most well-known participating competitors mentioned in order of their placement:

1) 15th International Paderborn Computer Chess Championship  5.5/7   1st place ahead of Gandalf, Zappa, Spike, Shredder, Fruit.
2) CCT 8                                                       8/9   1st place ahead of Zappa, Junior, Hiarcs, Spike, Fruit, Diep.
3) 6th International CSVN Tournament (ICT Leiden)            8.5/9   1st place ahead of Shredder, Gandalf, Diep.
4) 14th World Computer Chess Championship                    8.5/11  2nd with Shredder, behind Junior (9/11), ahead of Zappa, Spike, Diep.
5) 26th Open Dutch Computer-Chess Championship                 9/9   1st place ahead of Loop, Hiarcs, Fruit, Gandalf, Shredder.
6) 16th International Paderborn Computer Chess Championship  6.5/7   1st place ahead of Shredder, Gandalf, Spike, Diep.
7) CCT 9                                                       6/7   1st place ahead of Hiarcs, Spike, Naum, Loop, Zap!Chess, Junior, Diep.
8) 7th International CSVN Tournament (ICT Leiden)            7.5/9   1st place ahead of Zappa Zanzibar, Hiarcs-X, Deep Sjeng.
9) 15th World Computer Chess Championship                     10/11  1st place ahead of Zappa, Loop, Shredder, Gridchess, Deep Sjeng.

Rybka lost two games in those 9 tournaments, 1 against Spike in her first tournament, and then the one against Shredder costing her the 14th World Championship.

Total score: 69½/79 (88%). 62 wins - 15 draws - 2 losses.

Incidentally, Fritz didn't participate in any of these tournaments :P
Parent - By RFK (Gold) Date 2007-06-18 17:03 Edited 2007-06-18 17:13
Hi Alkelele,

Now, that puts Rybka into perspective, doesn't it!!! What Vas needs is a business manager like "Sam Phillips" was to Rock'n'Roll-some one with a great deal of energy and a lot of good ideas.
Parent - - By Venator (Silver) Date 2007-06-18 21:28
The last 5 tournaments went without a single loss and a 39/43 score (only 8 draws conceeded).

Also interesting to note: Rybka won the last 4 Turin games, than 9/9 in the Dutch Open and the
first 5 games in Paderborn. That's 18 in a row!
Parent - - By Roland Rösler (****) Date 2007-06-18 23:26
Bad luck! Bobby makes 19 in a row. Interzonal Palma de Mallorca 1970 (round 17-23; 7 wins), then Fischer vs. Taimonov (6 wins), then Fischer vs. Larsen (6 wins). And no windfall at all; only best players.
Parent - - By Venator (Silver) Date 2007-06-19 06:52
Thanks for pointing that out, I didn't know! Of course the great Bobby Fischer is the one to put this
awesome record in the books.
Parent - - By ebutaljib (****) Date 2007-06-19 07:17
Actually Fischer achieved 20 consecutive wins, he won the first game against Petrosian in the candidates final too.

But this is not the record. The record is held (and will probably stay that way) by first world champion Wilhelm Steinitz. He won 25 consecutive games between 1873 and 1882.
Parent - - By Venator (Silver) Date 2007-06-19 07:32
Ouch.... That will be VERY hard to beat....

Thanks for the info!
Parent - - By ebutaljib (****) Date 2007-06-19 08:45
Even for Rybka?   :)
Parent - By Venator (Silver) Date 2007-06-19 15:02
Yes, remember Steinitz didn't have opponents like Zappa, Hiarcs, Loop and Shredder, amongst others!
Parent - - By Nelson Hernandez (Gold) Date 2007-06-18 21:36
He needs a pitchman like Billy Mays, too.  You know, the loud and amped-up bearded guy who pitches Orange-Glo and all sorts of household cleaners.  Imagine that approach on late-night cable infomercials!
Parent - - By RFK (Gold) Date 2007-06-19 00:36 Edited 2007-06-19 00:43
That would do it!! He could have individual charts of all the wins and games going at lightning speed in the back ground- While he runs through the campy slogans that nobody wants to hear when they're playing chess like, "Get the bull off the ice? What the hell does that mean?"
Parent - - By Banned for Life (Gold) Date 2007-06-19 02:23
I disagree strongly with you here! These inane comments are the best part of the GUI! Nothing beats the anticipation of waiting for an insightful comment, only to end up with something like "Gets the bull off the ice". If you were paying a GM for instruction and you got this comment you would probably smack him in the head, but its funny coming from Fritz. Ah well, I guess I'm easily amused...

Parent - - By RFK (Gold) Date 2007-06-19 02:40 Edited 2007-06-19 02:56

I don't get you! That's the whole point! They have Fritz saying it-and, hell...we have Billy Mays commenting on it! How can you possibly argue with that? Fritz still gets to say it for folks like...well, like yourself! We got Billy Mays saying it for a whole lot of  folks who like Rybka and Fritz. Don't be so narrow minded now.

I mean, come on! What's good for the goose is good for the gander! You know what I mean?

No hard feelings-


I think you've been eating too much of that red meat lately and being chased by killer tomatoes hasn't helped you think straight lately either, and stay off the worcestershire sauce-for God's sake!
Parent - - By Nelson Hernandez (Gold) Date 2007-06-19 03:59
It is kind of cool how I am a catalyst for Sid's psychotic episodes.  I just throw out some crazed scenario--for instance Billy Mays pitching Rybka on late-night cable TV--and Sid does these fabulous riffs.  Vas, if you ever need creative talent for chess commercials, we're available at very reasonable rates.
Parent - By RFK (Gold) Date 2007-06-19 04:02 Edited 2007-06-19 04:08
By the way do you speak Spanish? It would help if you could be multilingual. Is Billy Mays at least multilingual?
Parent - By Banned for Life (Gold) Date 2007-06-19 05:37

Pitching Rybka on late night television would never work because the competition's commercial is already available. Do you remember the Bass-O-Matic commercial where Dan Akaroyd feeds a large fish into a blender with the voice over "IT SLICES, IT DICES...". It would be very hard to compete with this powerful imagery.

Parent - - By Gaмßito (****) Date 2007-06-19 06:00

Please, send that to FIDE. :-)

Parent - - By Alkelele (****) Date 2007-06-19 11:52 Edited 2007-06-19 11:56

Nah, I don't think that's necessary, I am sure that Kirsan is already an avid reader of the Rybka forum :-)

Anyway, I had some amusement reading the interviews with the representatives from the recent Fritz-Junior match.

Note these questions and answers (Alexander Kure was the representative of the Fritz team):

>Q: What is your reaction to the letter from the creator of Rybka, who is challenging the winner of this match?

>A.K.: Rybka is not a reigning World Champion, and Junior is. There was a similar situation when Bobby Fischer considered himself a champion, but did not want to play in a qualification. Maybe Rybka is the strongest program in the world, however it has to win the championship to prove it.

The irony is thick :-) Rybka is the only engine participating in all 9 major official tournaments since her release, while Fritz for a long time has participated in.... zero tournaments.

>Q: Do you consider Rybka being among, let’s say, top three or top five chess engines?

>S.B., A.B.: Yes. Rybka shared the 2nd-3rd places in the World Championship in 2006.

Their insistence on disregarding any results or statistical data but those of the "World Championship" strikes me as, well, let's say funny :-) I guess the logical conclusion is that Fritz does not even enter the radar of strong engines since it never participates in any tournaments ;-) At any rate, we can now rest assured that both the Fritz team and the Junior team consider Rybka the strongest engine in the world!
Parent - By Vempele (Silver) Date 2007-06-19 12:03

>Maybe Rybka is the strongest program in the world, however it has to win the championship to prove it.

If that's the way they test possible improvements in Fritz and Junior, it's no wonder Rybka is much stronger. :)

>Also, the letter is addressed to Kirsan Ilyumzhinov, who has many excellent qualities but has never written a chess engine, as far as I know.

I have never written a chess engine either, so it looks like my opinion doesn't matter.

>And now I think all the candidates in Elista are using our products to prepare their opening innovations.

Note the absence of a mention about which products they are using. The Fritz GUI certainly is very popular.

>---More funny stuff---

Is it June Fool's Day already?
Parent - - By Vasik Rajlich (Silver) Date 2007-06-19 13:05
Actually, to be fair, I should point out that Amir and Shay are consistent. For whatever reason, they have always put the WCCC on a pedestal. They even have "World Champion" T-shirts.

I do feel bad for the Chessbase employees, who have to toe the company line, probably without much reward. The comment of Alex Kure is hilarious :)

Parent - By Venator (Silver) Date 2007-06-19 13:41
Yes, I hadn't read it before and I had a nice laugh about it! Poor Alex is trying the best he can to cover
the Fritz myth, but alas, now Rybka is worldchamp and there is no denying anymore :-)
Parent - By Vasik Rajlich (Silver) Date 2007-06-19 13:02
Very nice, thanks for the compilation :)

Parent - - By er (**) Date 2007-06-19 13:07
Nice table!
Please, add month and year of these events.

Parent - By herakleitos (***) Date 2007-06-19 14:30
It would also be interesting to know the version of Rybka used.
Parent - By Alkelele (****) Date 2007-06-19 16:13
Some approximate dates can be found here, along with some links for further information:

I don't have time to compile the exact dates of the tournaments right now. With regard to the versions used, I think only Vas can give precise information.
Parent - By guyhaw (*) Date 2007-07-03 05:46
... and if Rybka had had the right 6-man Nalimov EGTs in the last ICGA WCCC, it would have been 10.5/11, a remarkable score.
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