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- - By Eelco de Groot (***) Date 2009-09-15 16:04


Preliminary list of participants

◦ Rybka
  Vasik Rajlich  USA
  Hans v.d. Zijden Netherlands

◦ Pandix 2009 AI
  Gyula Horvath Hungary

◦ Hermann [Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4 GHz & 4GB RAM, 64-bit Windows]
  Volker Annuss Germany

◦ Joker [Core2Duo 2.4 GHz (using 1 core)]
  Harm Geert Muller Netherlands

I assume that Rybka will be playing on the cluster from Lukas? As this was not possible the last time, but the rules are different for this championship.
Parent - By Lukas Cimiotti (Bronze) [de] Date 2009-09-15 16:31
Yes, the cluster will be playing :)
Parent - - By Razor (****) [gb] Date 2009-09-15 17:41
No interest to me due to significant hardware differences.
Parent - By Fulcrum2000 (****) [nl] Date 2009-09-15 17:45
Very interesting to me because Rybka will be playing at max strength.
Parent - - By Ray (****) Date 2009-09-15 20:31
Very interesting for me to see some very superb quality play from the cluster
Parent - - By Razor (****) [gb] Date 2009-09-15 20:40
Just look at it play against itself then - I suspect this will be as good as it can get for the time being.

As tournaments go this is a pointless tournament due to significant hardware differences.
Parent - By Ray (****) Date 2009-09-15 20:43

>> As tournaments go this is a pointless tournament due to significant hardware differences.


That is your opinion but it is not mine.
Parent - By Carl Bicknell (*****) [gb] Date 2009-10-16 17:27
Very interesting for me also - Rybka on top form!
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-09-15 20:33
I'm very interested to see the strongest chess player go at it.
Parent - - By InspectorGadget (*****) [za] Date 2009-09-17 11:03

> I'm very interested to see the strongest chess player go at it.


You mean the HighEndMan? :-D
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-09-17 11:26
HighEndMan is the strongest entity (?), a player by necessity should consist of 1 element (??), since I wouldn't expect HighEndMan to fare well without engine help against the cluster and I don't see other unassisted computer being stronger, the cluster remains the strongest chess player (???).
Parent - - By InspectorGadget (*****) [za] Date 2009-09-17 11:32

> HighEndMan is the strongest entity (?), a player by necessity should consist of 1 element (??), since I wouldn't expect HighEndMan to fare well without engine help against the cluster and I don't see other unassisted computer being stronger, the cluster remains the strongest chess player (???).


Haaaaa, I know Vitu, I was just joking
Parent - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-09-17 13:54
Me too (????) :)
Parent - By Omega-three (**) Date 2009-09-17 18:50
Hi razor

There are not enough games in most of the competitions to find the strongest program, thats what the rating lists are for. The competitions are mostly for the fun and enjoyment of entering their new program and for the rest of us to watch and enjoy the games.

regards

Mike
Parent - - By Miroslav Kvíčala (**) [cz] Date 2009-09-15 18:21
Non sense tournament. These engines are absolutly no competitors for Rybka...I would like to see new Fritz and Shredder playing... :)
Parent - - By Lukas Cimiotti (Bronze) [de] Date 2009-09-15 19:55
I hope some strong engines will join. But I don't think new Fritz will be there. Shredder would be great, Sjeng also. Maybe Stockfish will come too.

Regards,
Lukas
Parent - By Ray (****) Date 2009-09-15 20:32
Yes I'm sure some stronger engines will enter. It is early days in terms of the list of entrants
Parent - - By GCP (***) [be] Date 2009-09-16 11:52

>Sjeng also


I'm in.
Parent - By Felix Kling (Gold) [de] Date 2009-09-16 12:17
that makes it quite exciting :) There should be quite a gap beween Sjeng and the next participant, so one game decides everything maybe :)
Parent - - By turbojuice1122 (Gold) [us] Date 2009-09-15 21:22
Fritz doesn't play in tournaments where it has virtually no chance of winning...which is basically all of them nowadays.
Parent - - By kstevens (**) [us] Date 2009-10-17 01:13
Is it because they would lose or could just be they are not interested in tournaments. I seem to remember the programmers of Fritz stating they are not interested in playing in these tournaments. Once in a while you may see Fritz but not too often.
Parent - By turbojuice1122 (Gold) [us] Date 2009-10-21 01:09
I know they have said this, but I think that if this is actually true, this would make them extremely unusual among computer chess programmers.  It would also contradict their extensive history of such public gimics.
Parent - - By Overlord (**) [it] Date 2009-09-15 19:52
Any information about those engines?
Any games played before so that we can see their standings?
Parent - By Lukas Cimiotti (Bronze) [de] Date 2009-09-15 20:00
http://www.taccl.org/ACCAWCRCC/2009ACCAWCRCC/WCRCCResults.html
In this link you'll find results of the last tournament in which Pandix and Joker played. Hermann isn't very strong.

Regards,
Lukas
Parent - By Eelco de Groot (***) Date 2009-09-17 11:29


Sjeng has entered. Book by Erdo!

◦ Deep Sjeng
  Gian-Carlo Pascutto (prog.) Belgium
  Erdogan Gunes (book) Germany
Parent - By Eelco de Groot (***) Date 2009-10-16 16:01
The first round is off, with some delays due to router problems. No upsets for the main title favourites after the first games. Two more rounds will be played today. The Baron played its first game in the bar!

Friday, 16 oktober 2009 15:06 

The Baron - Pandix 1-0

Joker - Deep Sjeng 0-1

The King - Hansdamf 1-0

Hermann - Rybka 0-1

Ktulu free 



The Baron vs. Pandix, coffee errr connections were better in the bar
- - By peter2804 (**) [gb] Date 2009-09-16 02:46
Why does Vasik always seem to be the first to enter these Tournements? There's no wonder some of the 'well known' engines like Fritz and Junior are not entered. (Hiarcs not included) If he waited, other programers might think he's not entering and enter themselves. He would also be in a better position to judge the strength of competitors and if he thinks the final entries are no threat to Rybka then he should'nt enter thereby giving someone else a chance to win. A Formula 1  driver would never think of racing against 2nd class opposition would he.
Parent - By Razor (****) [gb] Date 2009-09-16 05:08
Hardware difference and cost
Parent - - By GCP (***) [be] Date 2009-09-16 11:52

>A Formula 1  driver would never think of racing against 2nd class opposition would he.


If they're also racing in the same GP, of course he would. Schumacher at his peak didn't skip races just because the other guys were far behind.
Parent - By Master Om (Bronze) [in] Date 2009-09-17 09:09
Correct...But..................................................
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