Yea, $200,000 guarantees from anonymous people on the internet won't get taken seriously by ANYBODY, as you should well know. Gonna go with a 0% chance of this being legit.
By the way you guys send an email to FIDE will you!
If you ARE serious and have the money - then that's a mighty fine offer. Hopefully it will tip the scales in Vas' favour.
Would you do that 'deal' ?
If you would not than not make that suggestion than someone other could do that.
I think that such a suggestion with someone name it is the offence.
The point is that if somebody suggests seriously a lot of money to somebody who is going to beat rybka he risks the possibility that Vas will lose for part of the money prize
and he can lose not by making his program weaker(it will cause a suspect that he lost on purpose) but by helping another programmer to be stronger.
I do not believe that somebody will suggest seriously big money for a program that is going to beat rybka because even if we assume that no program can do it by normal means there is no reason to take the risk that I mention.
It is more logical that somebody will offer Vas big money for his source code and I do not think that somebody offered it.
OK now comes to my offer .
I want 2 conditions from the tournament organiser
first is that the hardware is more or less equal for both the engines
Second is that the hardware is present at the match site ( no remote internet connectivity because in such a case there is a possibility of human GM aid )
I really don't know that why vasik has offered the infinite hardware because chessbase has definately more resources than vasik and they can easily use a very powerfull machine as they have use recently in a computer championship match in which chess engine junior is running on some 256 processor machine on a remote site via internet.
And if they acquire such machine for zap zanzibar which is already only 60 points behind rybka's latest version then zanzibar would definately have better chances of wiinning such a match as people know that on doubling the processor speed engine's elo rougly increases to 40 - 70 points .
he said that with a huge difference in processors the other program would probably win
(he said that "If an engine using 512 processors can't beat Rybka, then something is definitely very wrong").
I don't think that with 256, for example, the issue will be that much different. With something like Zap maybe even less (but zap is not an issue in this challenge).
More likely is one (or a combination of) the following:
1) The scalability of 2.3.2 is already good enough to give reasonable performance increases. Enough to maintain a lead. Even if far from the other engine's scalability.
2) Vas can run Rybka on a very powerful computer he already knows he will have access to.
Even with bad scaling capability, Rybka's work on a 32 core machine will make it prohibitively difficult for either Fritz or Junior to catch up. even on a 256 processor monster.
3) The level of the soon (hopefully) to be released 2.3.2, is actually a lot stronger than the 50 point increase that was claimed at first.
Could be. After all, the 50 point increase was claimed a while ago, and Vas decided the version is not yet ready to be released. It may be possible that all stability issued (and the zugzwangs issue and who knows what else) caused another increase in elo... No one knows how big or small that increase is.
(That said, it will be more than just amazing if 2.3.2 will be FAR more than 50 points stronger than its predecessor, but who knows...).
If you took currently existing public programs, then I suspect that Rybka would lose to Zappa on 512 processors, although I am far from sure about it. Rybka's current MP implementation is not designed for such a number of processors. This is going to change, obviously.
> I suspect that Rybka would lose to Zappa on 512 processors
Yes that's my concern in such a match .
My email is
Don't know yours.
And is there any check on the human aid during a remote internet connection with hardware ?
> My email is
Are you sure? Why are the logs on this server repeatedly showing messages like this one:
Delivery to the following recipients failed.
Diagnostic-Code: smtp;550 Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable
Yesterday I sent you a message pointing this out.
i have checked it
for confirmation give me ur email and i reply u on this from my address.
IF problems are still there with
then try this
> This is getting stranger every minute..
What's strange in that ?
> You email addresses don't look really professional for someone offering 200K USD..
Because in pakistan business has very little to do with internet or email accounts .
and u are suprised to know that its only 2 years back when there is the first ATM machine works in pakistan. !!
by the way my email address is email@example.com
firstname.lastname@example.org is my Mrs email address.
sicne in last 10 years there are only 3 national tournaments and there is long time ago when any rated competiton has been played.
u have mentioned sultan khan but u don't know that he has never played from pakistan he only migrated to pakistan after the 1947 dividend of subcontinent he only played from british india.
One more thing the largest prize money ever given for the chess tournament is 50000 rupee equivalent to 800 $ !!!
And one can't even find where is the pakistan chess federation and who is the president of it ,
if u find then plz email me.
H. #2997 Street #5 Daura Road
Near Kohat Road
Pakistan (92)42-751 33 44
Google leads to this address :)
This offer of 200000 bucks had put my marriage on the verge of divorce , I really was not expecting such a strong threat from my wife . Although i had tried my best to convince her that there is very less possibility that rybka would actually loose but have no succes in changing her mind .
So i am really very sorry for that.
By the way i will continue my struggle to find some other sponsor for arranging such a match with big prize money.
I am really feeling very empty that why i don't have such a life partner like Rybka's author have , who is very passionate about chess , but that lifes and one can't do much about that.
God Bless Rybka and Vasik
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