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- - By Venator (Silver) Date 2019-10-16 07:22 Upvotes 1
In the TCEC 16 superfinal I decided to test AlphaZero's novelty in the Frankenstein-Dracula gambit: 12... h5!?  Here are the two games:

[Event "TCEC Season 16 - Superfinal"]
[Site "https://tcec-chess.com"]
[Date "2019.10.01"]
[Round "31.1"]
[White "AllieStein v0.5-dev_7b41f8c-n1"]
[Black "Stockfish 19092522"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C27"]
[WhiteElo "3823"]
[BlackElo "3892"]
[PlyCount "96"]
[EventDate "2019.??.??"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Bc4 Nxe4 4. Qh5 Nd6 5. Bb3 Nc6 6. Nb5 g6 7. Qf3 f5 8.
Qd5 Qf6 9. Nxc7+ Kd8 10. Nxa8 b6 11. Qd3 Bb7 12. Ne2 h5 13. h4 Bh6 14. Nxb6
axb6 15. a4 Re8 16. O-O f4 17. Qh3 Nf5 18. d3 Ncd4 19. Nc3 Bc6 20. Re1 f3 21.
Bxh6 Nxh6 22. Ne4 Bxe4 23. Rxe4 fxg2 24. a5 Ng4 25. Qg3 Nf3+ 26. Kxg2 Nxh4+ 27.
Kg1 Nf3+ 28. Kg2 Nh4+ 29. Kg1 Nf3+ 30. Kh1 bxa5 31. Bd5 Nh4 32. f3 Nxf3 33. Rf1
Qd6 34. Rxf3 Qxd5 35. Qh4+ Kc7 36. Qg5 Rg8 37. Kg2 Rb8 38. Rc4+ Kb7 39. Kg3 Re8
40. Rf1 h4+ 41. Kh3 Rf8 42. Rxf8 Qh1+ 43. Kxg4 Qg2+ 44. Kxh4 Qh2+ 45. Kg4 Qg2+
46. Kh4 Qh2+ 47. Kg4 Qg1+ 48. Kh4 Qh2+ 1/2-1/2
Parent - - By Venator (Silver) Date 2019-10-16 07:26 Upvotes 1
The second game was very spectacular, Allie was on its way to make a draw, but 32... Kc7? was the decisive mistake. 32... Ba8 would hold the draw.

[Event "TCEC Season 16 - Superfinal"]
[Site "https://tcec-chess.com"]
[Date "2019.10.01"]
[Round "32.1"]
[White "Stockfish 19092522"]
[Black "AllieStein v0.5-dev_7b41f8c-n1"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C27"]
[WhiteElo "3892"]
[BlackElo "3823"]
[PlyCount "88"]
[EventDate "2019.??.??"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Bc4 Nxe4 4. Qh5 Nd6 5. Bb3 Nc6 6. Nb5 g6 7. Qf3 f5 8.
Qd5 Qf6 9. Nxc7+ Kd8 10. Nxa8 b6 11. Qd3 Bb7 12. Ne2 h5 13. h4 Bh6 14. a3 Nd4
15. Nxd4 exd4 16. f3 g5 17. c3 g4 18. Kd1 f4 19. Rf1 Bxa8 20. a4 Re8 21. Kc2 a5
22. Kb1 Nf5 23. Ka2 Bb7 24. Bc4 Nxh4 25. b4 axb4 26. cxb4 Bg7 27. Bb2 Nxg2 28.
a5 gxf3 29. a6 Be4 30. Qa3 Ne3 31. dxe3 fxe3 32. a7 Kc7 33. Rac1 Kb7 34. Qa4
Qd6 35. Rg1 Bh6 36. Rg8 Bf8 37. b5 Ka8 38. Ba3 Qh2+ 39. Ka1 Qd2 40. Rd1 Qf2 41.
Qb3 Qc2 42. Qxc2 Bxc2 43. Rxd4 e2 44. Bb4 Bh7 1-0
Parent - - By Fulcrum2000 (****) Date 2019-10-16 13:23
Hi Jeroen, which time control did you chose for these two games?
Parent - - By Venator (Silver) Date 2019-10-16 13:33
As mentioned, the games have been played in the TCEC 16 superfinal. Thus 2 hours for the whole game plus 10 seconds increment. Hardware 43 cores.
Parent - - By Fulcrum2000 (****) Date 2019-10-16 15:00
Ah sorry, I misunderstood. Thought you did run them outside of TCEC to check some opening.
Need to read better before I reply next time ;-)
Parent - By Venator (Silver) Date 2019-10-16 17:11
No problem :-).
Parent - - By Boombaard (**) Date 2019-10-16 18:45
That were very interesting games indeed. However 11.Qf3! is probably much stronger than 11.Qd3. After 11...Bb7 12.h4 black is in trouble. Therefore I think black should try the old 8...Qe7! in stead of 8...Qf6. After 9.Nxc7 Kd8 10.Nxa8 b6 11.Qd3 is probably best, but after 11...Bb7 12.Ne2 Bxa8 13.0-0 a known but fascinating pawn storm begins with 13...g5! My Stockfish evaluates this as +0,75, much more moderate than the +1,11 after 8...Qf6. I expect NN's to like this pawnstorm.
It would be nice to have 8...Qe7 included in your TCEC opening book!
Parent - By Venator (Silver) Date 2019-10-17 15:14 Upvotes 1
I agree that 11.Qd3 looks rather artificial and just blocks the d-pawn. On the other hand, AlphaZero's novelty was in this line (i.e. with 11.Qd3), I was just curious if it was playable or not.

It would be nice to have 8...Qe7 included in your TCEC opening book!

I can't select the Frankenstein-Dracula too often, but I surely will keep it in mind!
Parent - - By user923005 (****) Date 2019-10-17 01:33 Edited 2019-10-17 01:37
It wasn't just missing Kc7, it was mistake after mistake after mistake for AllieStein.

The columns are:
tacd=TCEC depth
eacd=my database depth
tce=TCEC centipawn evaluation
ece=database eval
tacd=TCEC depth
eacd=db depth
tacs=TCEC time
eacs=time
etc.
Parent - - By Venator (Silver) Date 2019-10-17 15:17
I don't know why you think AllieStein made more mistakes. 32... Kc7? loses, but 32... Ba8 draws.

Furthermore, in a parallel match between SF and Leela, the latter played exactly the same moves as AllieStein did. Leela avoided the 32... Kc7? mistake, played the correct 32... Ba8 and made a draw effortlessly.
Parent - By user923005 (****) Date 2019-10-17 18:43
32.. Kc7 was a terrible blunder, but it gave up less than two pawns advantage.  Probably the move that lost the game, but engines have come back from deficits this large.
Much worse moves followed.
35.. Bh6 gave up at least 7 pawns (and ironically AllieStein thinking the score was about even).
and
37.. Ka8 gave up another 7 pawns

AllieStein was happy with the score until move 39, when the trouble started to become apparent.

I am re-analyzing the most interesting patch to 50 plies deep.
Parent - By user923005 (****) Date 2019-10-18 19:37
I think the main problem with AllieStein is time control.
If you look at the area where AllieStein got pushed around, you will see a lot of very quick moves.
In a slow time control contest like TCEC, I think it might be good to have a minimum time to think, unless there is literally a single forced move.
Parent - - By MrKris (**) Date 2019-10-18 05:04
Thanks, your openings seem to work well on my modest equipment also.

[Event "G/14+2  i7-4770K/RTX 2060 Sy.6"]
[Site "A0's 12...h5!? Frankenstein-Dracula"]
[Date "2019.10.17"]
[Round "1"]
[White "asmFishWCP_2019-10-16c0"]
[Black "Lc0-0.22.0_42872"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "2200"]
[Time "19:21:05"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[TimeControl "840+2"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "N2k1b1r/pb1p4/1pnn1qp1/4pp1p/8/1B1Q4/PPPPNPPP/R1B1K2R w KQ - 0 13"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "120"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

13. a3 {+1.54/31 79} Nd4 {-0.75/17 10} 14. Nxb6 {+1.47/32 22} axb6
{-0.55/26 13} 15. Nxd4 {+0.96/30 22} exd4 {-0.51/23 11} 16. f3 {+1.36/32
34} Bg7 {-0.47/29 10} 17. Kd1 {+0.83/30 18} Re8 {-0.37/29 17} 18. Qf1
{+0.96/33 34} h4 {-0.30/33 16} 19. h3 {+2.26/26 5} f4 {-0.29/24 0} 20. Qf2
{+1.12/30 25} d3 {-0.24/33 26} 21. Qxb6+ {+1.14/36 21} Kc8 {-0.25/35 13}
22. cxd3 {+1.53/32 6} Qg5 {-0.24/40 0} 23. Qxd6 {+1.52/34 14} Qxg2
{-0.23/32 22} 24. Kc2 {+1.14/33 22} Qxh1 {-0.22/29 19} 25. Qxg6 {+1.23/33
15} Re7 {-0.20/29 13} 26. Qg5 {+1.28/32 9} Kd8 {-0.19/27 21} 27. Qa5+
{+1.32/35 31} Kc8 {-0.17/28 33} 28. Qg5 {+1.00/39 41} Kd8 {-0.13/25 45} 29.
Qxf4 {+0.99/35 10} Qxh3 {-0.26/26 52} 30. Qb8+ {+0.99/37 12} Bc8 {-0.28/32}
31. Qb6+ {+0.99/36 8} Ke8 {-0.29/29 0} 32. Bd5 {+0.99/38 13} Qg3 {-0.66/36
53} 33. d4 {+0.99/40 19} h3 {-0.70/36 18} 34. b4 {+0.99/38 9} Re1 {-0.76/30
19} 35. Bb2 {+0.99/41 13} Rxa1 {-0.79/29 9} 36. Bxa1 {+0.99/42 9} h2
{-0.83/26 25} 37. f4 {+0.99/43 10} Qg1 {-0.90/29 120} 38. Bc3 {+1.99/31 21}
h1=Q {-0.91/31 27} 39. Bxh1 {+2.28/32 9} Qxh1 {-0.91/31 0} 40. Qg6+
{+2.45/30 6} Kf8 {-0.92/28 0} 41. b5 {+2.69/33 23} Bb7 {-0.73/22 33} 42. d5
{+2.68/31 8} Bxc3 {-0.11/19 28} 43. Qd6+ {+1.29/33 28} Ke8 {-0.11/20 11}
44. Qb8+ {+2.12/29 5} Kf7 {-1.45/20 33} 45. Qxb7 {+2.33/33 10} Bf6
{-1.42/23 3} 46. Qxd7+ {+2.81/32 9} Kf8 {-1.37/21 11} 47. Qc8+ {+2.94/32
11} Kg7 {-1.36/22 5} 48. Qc7+ {+2.81/35 44} Kf8 {-1.30/23 17} 49. Qc5+
{+3.15/32 10} Kg7 {-1.30/20 17} 50. b6 {+3.67/28 11} Qe4+ {-1.49/23 27} 51.
Kb3 {+2.30/30 21} Bd4 {-1.53/26 19} 52. Qc7+ {+2.72/31 5} Kg6 {-1.51/26 3}
53. Qc6+ {+1.76/33 30} Kh5 {-1.37/19 25} 54. b7 {+1.35/36 22} Ba7 {-1.36/21
3} 55. Qb5 {+2.76/26 4} Kg4 {-1.36/18 7} 56. d3 {+1.36/28 13} Qd4 {-1.33/17
8} 57. Kc2 {+0.51/33 36} Bb8 {-1.01/15 21} 58. Qc4 {0.00/33 20} Qf2+
{-1.02/17 16} 59. Kc3 {0.00/35 5} Qe1+ {-0.98/15 10} 60. Kb2 {0.00/38 3}
Kg3 {-0.80/16 9} 61. Qb5 {0.00/34 7} Qd2+ {-0.59/13 8} 62. Kb3 {0.00/37 2}
Qd1+ {-0.56/15 1} 63. Kb4 {0.00/36 4} Qd2+ {-0.58/13 6} 64. Kb3 {0.00/40 4}
Qd1+ {-0.55/14 5} 65. Kb4 {0.00/40 5} Qd2+ {-0.58/14 4} 66. Ka4 {0.00/39 8}
Qxf4+ {-0.55/14 2} 67. Kb3 {0.00/35 3} Qc1 {-0.44/12 6} 68. Qb4 {0.00/36 3}
Qd1+ {-0.44/13 5} 69. Kc3 {0.00/39 8} Qc1+ {-0.43/14 2} 70. Kb3 {0.00/38 4}
Qd1+ {-0.39/13 4} 71. Kc4 {0.00/38 13} Qg4+ {-0.40/12 2} 72. Kb3 {0.00/42
6} Qd1+ {0.00/2 3 3-fold repetition} 1/2-1/2

128...Kf7?? Continuing its Ke6/d5 shuffle with 128...Kd5 as it had been playing is easily equal. [Event "G/14+2  i7-4770K/RTX 2060 Sy.6"]
[Site "A0's 12...h5!? Frankenstein-Dracula"]
[Date "2019.10.17"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Lc0-0.22.0_42872"]
[Black "asmFishWCP_2019-10-16c0"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "2000"]
[Time "19:58:55"]
[WhiteElo "2200"]
[TimeControl "840+2"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "N2k1b1r/pb1p4/1pnn1qp1/4pp1p/8/1B1Q4/PPPPNPPP/R1B1K2R w KQ - 0 13"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "246"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

13. a3 {+0.77/16 15} Bxa8 {-1.51/28 28} 14. Bd5 {+1.36/15 13} Bg7 {-1.50/29
13} 15. Qb3 {+1.37/18 10} h4 {-1.43/31 43} 16. h3 {+1.42/16 22} Ne8
{-1.75/29 21} 17. d3 {+1.32/17 40} Nc7 {-1.30/28 9} 18. c4 {+1.28/18 2} Ke8
{-1.57/29 23} 19. O-O {+1.74/20 26} Nxd5 {-1.38/29 7} 20. cxd5 {+1.70/25
15} Ne7 {-1.62/33 20} 21. Nc3 {+1.69/25 11} Kf7 {-1.36/31 7} 22. d6+
{+1.67/25 11} Nd5 {-1.21/31 9} 23. Ne4 {+1.67/25 11} fxe4 {-1.41/36 35} 24.
dxe4 {+1.66/24 10} Qe6 {-1.53/32 25} 25. exd5 {+1.66/26 0} Qxd5 {-1.80/35
36} 26. Qxd5+ {+1.64/20 24} Bxd5 {-1.68/36 12} 27. Be3 {+1.58/20 96} Ke6
{-1.28/33 23} 28. Rfd1 {+1.58/22 0} Bc6 {-1.31/32 26} 29. Rd2 {+1.65/16 60}
e4 {-1.31/30 16} 30. Rad1 {+1.50/14 37} Rh5 {-1.02/30 8} 31. Bd4 {+1.41/14
26} Bh6 {-0.89/31 8} 32. Re2 {+1.49/14 16} Bf4 {-0.87/31 16} 33. f3
{+1.74/16 18} e3 {-1.05/41 26} 34. Bxe3 {+2.01/19 28} Re5 {-1.24/44 31} 35.
Rde1 {+1.99/22 4} Bb5 {-1.24/45 16} 36. Bxf4 {+1.96/21 10} Rxe2 {-1.14/47
29} 37. Rxe2+ {+1.92/20 10} Bxe2 {-1.14/49 9} 38. Bg5 {+1.87/19 13} Kxd6
{-1.24/48 34} 39. Bxh4 {+1.86/20 13} b5 {-1.24/46 18} 40. Be1 {+2.06/12 45}
Bd3 {-1.24/44 9} 41. Kf2 {+2.05/11 54} Ke6 {-1.24/43 21} 42. Bc3 {+2.06/9
23} a6 {-1.24/46 13} 43. h4 {+2.04/10 27} Bc4 {-1.05/41 9} 44. b4 {+2.04/10
10} Kf7 {-1.05/46 5} 45. Be5 {+2.02/9 28} Ke6 {-1.05/49 8} 46. Bg7 {+2.00/9
26} Kf7 {-1.05/49 9} 47. Bb2 {+1.98/9 17} Kg8 {-1.05/48 8} 48. Be5 {+1.98/9
13} Kf8 {-1.05/49 7} 49. Bf4 {+2.00/8 17} Ke8 {-1.05/51 8} 50. g3 {+2.00/8
11} Bb3 {-1.05/48 8} 51. Kg2 {+2.02/8 9} Be6 {-1.05/49 6} 52. Be5 {+2.00/8
16} Ke7 {-1.05/48 6} 53. Bb8 {+2.00/8 12} Kf6 {-1.05/50 7} 54. Kf2 {+1.94/9
8} Bc4 {-1.05/51 24} 55. Bf4 {+1.96/8 7} Kf5 {-1.05/50 4} 56. Bd2 {+1.95/9
12} Ke6 {-1.05/51 6} 57. Kg2 {+1.94/8 7} Bd5 {-1.05/53 15} 58. Bf4 {+1.96/8
7} Kf7 {-1.05/52 4} 59. Be5 {+1.91/8 6} Be6 {-1.05/53 7} 60. Bf4 {+1.90/8
5} Kg8 {-1.05/48 6} 61. Bg5 {+1.89/8 6} Bf7 {-1.05/48 5} 62. Bf4 {+1.90/8
4} Bc4 {-1.05/49 5} 63. Be3 {+1.90/8 5} Kh7 {-1.05/51 5} 64. Bf4 {+1.91/8
4} Bb3 {-1.05/52 6} 65. g4 {+1.90/8 3} Be6 {-1.05/50 5} 66. Kg3 {+1.86/8 3}
Bd5 {-1.05/50 5} 67. Bg5 {+1.81/8 3} Bb3 {-1.05/53 8} 68. Be3 {+1.74/8 3}
Kg7 {-1.05/52 4} 69. Bd2 {+1.70/8 3} Bc2 {-1.05/50 4} 70. Bc3+ {+1.66/8 2}
Kf7 {-1.05/51 5} 71. h5 {+1.59/10 2} gxh5 {-1.05/48 9} 72. gxh5 {+1.56/12
0} d6 {-1.05/55 4} 73. Kh4 {+1.78/11 2} Bd1 {-1.05/52 4} 74. f4 {+1.78/11
1} Bc2 {-1.25/55 7} 75. Kg5 {+1.79/11 2} Ke6 {-1.25/60 4} 76. Bd4 {+1.79/10
1} Bd3 {-1.25/62 5} 77. Ba7 {+1.81/11 3} Be4 {-1.25/59 4} 78. Bb6 {+1.81/11
4} d5 {-1.25/59 4} 79. Bd4 {+1.80/11 1} Bd3 {-1.25/61 4} 80. Be5 {+1.77/10
1} Be4 {-1.25/60 5} 81. Kh6 {+1.74/11 3} Kf7 {-1.25/55 5} 82. Kg5 {+1.75/12
2} Ke6 {-1.25/65 3} 83. Kg4 {+1.73/12 0} Bh1 {-1.25/58 4} 84. Bg7 {+1.84/12
3} Be4 {-1.25/64 6} 85. h6 {+1.85/12 0} Bc2 {-1.25/57 3} 86. Kf3 {+1.89/11
2} d4 {-1.25/58 3} 87. Bxd4 {+2.45/9 1} Bf5 {-1.25/63 4} 88. Ke3 {+2.38/8
4} Bh7 {-1.25/58 3} 89. Bb6 {+2.31/8 2} Kd5 {-1.25/62 3} 90. Bc7 {+2.27/9
1} Bf5 {-1.25/61 3} 91. Kf3 {+2.20/9 2} Ke6 {-1.25/61 4} 92. Be5 {+2.15/9
2} Kd5 {-1.25/66 5} 93. Bf6 {+2.10/8 2} Ke6 {-1.25/65 3} 94. Bg5 {+2.04/9
2} Bh7 {-1.25/61 4} 95. Bd8 {+2.02/8 1} Bf5 {-1.25/63 5} 96. Ke3 {+1.97/9
1} Kd5 {-1.25/63 3} 97. Bc7 {+1.93/9 2} Bg6 {-1.25/62 3} 98. Kf2 {+1.89/9
2} Be4 {-1.25/60 3} 99. Kg3 {+1.83/8 1} Ke6 {-1.25/64 4} 100. Kf2 {+1.81/9
1} Kd5 {-1.25/60 2} 101. Bb8 {+1.77/8 2} Ke6 {-1.25/61 2} 102. Be5 {+1.78/9
1} Bf5 {-1.25/64 3} 103. Ke3 {+1.76/8 1} Kd5 {-1.25/68 4} 104. Bf6 {+1.70/8
2} Ke6 {-1.25/62 5} 105. Bh4 {+1.66/9 1} Kd5 {-1.25/62 2} 106. Bd8 {+1.61/9
1} Bg6 {-1.25/63 3} 107. Kf3 {+1.58/8 2} Bf5 {-1.25/67 3} 108. Kf2 {+1.56/8
2} Ke4 {-1.25/62 3} 109. Bc7 {+1.53/9 1} Kd4 {-1.25/59 2} 110. Kf3 {+1.53/9
2} Kd3 {-1.25/60 3} 111. Kg3 {+1.55/9 2} Kd4 {-1.25/65 3} 112. Bb8 {+1.47/9
1} Kd5 {-1.25/62 2} 113. Kf3 {+1.45/9 1} Ke6 {-1.25/59 2} 114. Ke3 {+1.42/9
1} Kd5 {-1.25/66 2} 115. Ba7 {+1.39/9 2} Be4 {-1.25/63 4} 116. Bd4 {+1.41/8
2} Bf5 {-1.25/62 3} 117. Be5 {+1.37/8 2} Bg6 {-1.25/63 2} 118. Kf2 {+1.34/8
1} Bf5 {-1.25/65 3} 119. Kf3 {+1.33/8 1} Ke6 {-1.25/67 3} 120. Bg7 {+1.28/8
2} Bg6 {-1.25/61 2} 121. Bf8 {+1.29/8 1} Kd5 {-1.25/63 3} 122. Ke3 {+1.27/9
1} Bc2 {-1.25/60 2} 123. Bg7 {+1.25/8 1} Bf5 {-1.25/65 2} 124. Kf3 {+1.24/8
2} Bd3 {-1.25/65 2} 125. Bf6 {+1.24/8 2} Ke6 {-1.25/59 2} 126. Ba1 {+1.18/8
2} Kd5 {-1.25/64 2} 127. Kg4 {+1.15/8 1} Ke6 {-1.25/65 15} 128. Kf3
{+1.14/8 1} Kf7 {-1.25/45 2, ----?? 128...Kd5=----} 129. Ke3 {+1.92/10 1} Bc2 {-1.25/58 5} 130.
Bg7 {+2.22/11 1} Ke7 {-1.25/48 1} 131. Kd4 {+3.06/10 1} Kd6 {-20.68/29 22}
132. Be5+ {+3.49/10 1} Kc6 {-18.60/28 2} 133. Bb8 {+4.46/10 1} Kd7
{-24.97/29 12} 134. Ke5 {+4.69/10 1} Ke7 {-17.65/24 0} 135. f5 {+4.77/10 2}
Kf7 {-74.92/27 6 Black resigns} 1-0

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[Event "TCEC Season 16 - Superfinal"]
[Site "tcec-chess.com"]
[Date "2019.10.01"]
[Round "32.1"]
[White "Stockfish 19092522"]
[Black "AllieStein v0.5-dev_7b41f8c-n1"]
[Result "1-0"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "3kr3/P2p2b1/1p3q2/7p/1PBpb3/Q3pp2/KB6/R4R2 b - - 0 32"]

32... Kc7 {---Here Stockfish stays with 32...Ba8 after about 3 mins., Lc0 had 32...Kc7? for 9 mins.---} 33. Rac1 Kb7 34. Qa4 Qd6 35. Rg1 Bh6 36. Rg8 Bf8 37. b5 Ka8 38. Ba3
Qh2 39. Ka1 Qd2 40. Rd1 Qf2 41. Qb3 Qc2 42. Qxc2 Bxc2 43. Rxd4 e2 44. Bb4 Bh7
1-0
Parent - - By Lazy Frank (****) Date 2019-10-25 10:59 Upvotes 1
For sure a3 is a move what should be played (not h4, both engines in TCEC S16 final felt in active kingside play).
Asmfish Nxb6 of course out of comments.
In the LC0-SF game i'm not sure about Qb3 move.
Parent - - By Boombaard (**) Date 2019-10-29 22:20
Ah, Lazy Frank again.
I know that name of 2 correspondence games we played (see Correspondence tab with Frankenstein Dracula games).
After I played some strong moves mister Lazy Frank didn't react anymore and disappeared. Not resiging, nothing. Very impolite.
It's a shame.
Parent - By MrKris (**) Date 2019-10-30 09:20
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G/14'+1" ; i7-4770K/RTX 2060 1GBhash Syzygy6
3 'Happy Halloween' openings as below reversed.
Lc0-v0.22.0_J20-460 +1, Stockfish_19102601c0 +1, =4

The engines from where Lazy Frank - Boombaard left off, white 0.5 - black 1.5:
In Sf 0-1 Lc0 white lost a knight for pawn, 20...Bxe2, for 2 knights vs. rook and pawn;
black sacrificed a pawn to trade queens, 22...Qc6;
extreme tactics followed so that after 30...Bxf5 black had 2 knights vs. bishop and 3 pawns;
black eventually won the unusual ending.
In Lc0 1/2-1/2 Sf black is the exchange down but with 19...Bg2 has a perpetual queen attack for a quick draw.
[Event "Franken-Drac"]
[Site "Rybka forum"]
[Date "2019.10.29"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Stockfish_19102601c0"]
[Black "Lc0-v0.22.0_J20-460"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C27"]
[Opening "Vienna"]
[Variation "3.Bc4 Nxe4 4.Qh5 Nd6 5.Bb3 Nc6"]
[TimeControl "840+1"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "125"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "human"]

1. e4 {book} e5 {book} 2. Nc3 {book} Nf6 {book} 3. Bc4 {book} Nxe4 {book}
4. Qh5 {book} Nd6 {book} 5. Bb3 {book} Nc6 {book} 6. Nb5 {book} g6 {book}
7. Qf3 {book} f5 {book} 8. Qd5 {book} Qf6 {book} 9. Nxc7+ {book} Kd8 {book}
10. Nxa8 {book} b6 {book} 11. Ne2 {book} Bb7 {book} 12. Qd3 {book} Bxa8
{book} 13. a3 {book} Ne7 {book} 14. f3 {+0.59/31 73s}

(14.Qh3 {__ Lc0-Sf __} g5 15.d4 exd4 16.c3 f4 17.O-O Ng6 18.Nxd4 Nh4 19.g3 Bg2 20.Qg4 Bf3 21.Qh3 Bg2 22.Qg4 Bf3 23.Qh3 Bg2 {1/2-1/2})

g5 {-0.09/14 11s} 15.
O-O {+0.07/31 91s} f4 {+0.21/16 16s} 16. c3 {0.00/31 44s} h5 {+0.89/18 19s}
17. Qa6 {0.00/29 5.1s} Bc6 {+0.69/23 38s} 18. d4 {-0.87/34 58s} Bb5
{+0.69/18 0.23s} 19. Qxa7 {-0.73/33 5.7s} Ndc8 {+0.66/26 13s} 20. Qa8
{-0.71/35 23s} Bxe2 {+1.14/22 28s} 21. Re1 {-1.27/31 14s} Bd3 {+1.13/26
12s} 22. dxe5 {-1.20/33 17s} Qc6 {+1.08/28 17s} 23. Qxc6 {-1.41/35 18s}
Nxc6 {+1.08/25 0.37s} 24. g3 {-1.39/35 21s} Bc5+ {+1.55/24 44s} 25. Kg2
{-1.27/34 6.1s} h4 {+1.58/24 8.8s} 26. gxf4 {-1.07/33 7.1s} h3+ {+1.57/23
11s} 27. Kh1 {-1.46/36 23s} Bf2 {+1.56/22 8.1s} 28. f5 {-1.41/36 24s} Bxe1
{+1.49/22 108s} 29. Bxg5+ {-1.38/31 5.3s} Kc7 {+1.49/23 0.23s} 30. Rxe1
{-1.42/33 9.6s} Bxf5 {+1.48/22 0.25s} 31. Kg1 {-1.57/35 19s} Be6 {+1.51/20
38s} 32. Bc2 {-1.36/29 7.2s} Rg8 {+1.51/20 0.25s} 33. f4 {-0.84/28 7.5s}
N8e7 {+1.52/19 8.1s} 34. Kf2 {-1.18/32 48s} Nf5 {+1.52/19 9.1s} 35. Bd1
{-1.37/37 63s} Na5 {+1.48/19 52s} 36. Bg4 {-0.88/32 8.6s} Nc4 {+1.50/20
12s} 37. Re2 {-1.00/35 12s} b5 {+1.52/21 10s} 38. Kf3 {-0.97/32 5.8s} Rh8
{+1.52/22 19s} 39. Bf6 {-0.96/34 24s} Rh7 {+1.55/21 38s} 40. Bg5 {-1.24/34
21s} Nb6 {+1.50/14 76s} 41. Kf2 {-1.16/31 19s} Na4 {+1.63/13 20s} 42. Rd2
{-1.16/31 15s} Nc5 {+1.60/14 12s} 43. Kf3 {-1.55/31 8.7s} Rh8 {+1.59/13
24s} 44. Rd1 {-1.41/31 7.0s} Bb3 {+1.76/14 28s} 45. Ra1 {-1.34/31 43s} Bd5+
{+1.91/14 14s} 46. Ke2 {-1.57/30 7.6s} Be6 {+1.91/14 9.6s} 47. Bf6
{-1.93/30 11s} Rh7 {+1.99/14 9.2s} 48. Bxf5 {-2.09/30 20s} Bxf5 {+2.58/11
21s} 49. Ke3 {-2.07/28 11s} Rh6 {+2.95/12 20s} 50. Rg1 {-2.04/27 2.0s} Rg6
{+3.08/13 9.8s} 51. Rg5 {-2.62/32 8.2s} Rxg5 {+3.10/13 9.2s} 52. fxg5
{-2.72/31 5.6s} Na4 {+3.23/12 9.0s} 53. b3 {-3.25/31 23s} Nxc3 {+3.40/11
12s} 54. Bg7 {-3.34/27 1.9s} Nd5+ {+4.28/10 19s} 55. Kf3 {-2.55/26 2.1s}
Ne7 {+4.52/10 9.3s} 56. Bf8 {-3.44/30 5.9s} Ng6 {+4.57/10 8.1s} 57. Bd6+
{-3.57/30 3.6s} Kb6 {+4.68/10 8.2s} 58. Kf2 {-4.07/33 13s} Be6 {+5.73/9
13s} 59. Kg3 {-3.58/24 0.77s} Bxb3 {+5.99/10 4.4s} 60. Kxh3 {-4.73/29 4.2s}
Bd1 {+6.82/10 4.3s} 61. Kg3 {-5.92/31 12s} Kc6 {+7.64/9 6.0s} 62. Kf2
{-6.77/31 8.5s} Kd5 {+8.97/8 5.9s} 63. Ke3 {-6.56/23 1.4s, Black wins by
adjudication} 0-1

Where Boombaard - Lazy Frank left off the engines gave white the advantage but they drew both, white 1.0 - black 1.0:
[Event "Franken-Drac"]
[Site "Rybka forum"]
[Date "2019.10.29"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Lc0-v0.22.0_J20-460"]
[Black "Stockfish_19102601c0"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C27"]
[Opening "Vienna"]
[Variation "3.Bc4 Nxe4 4.Qh5 Nd6 5.Bb3 Nc6"]
[TimeControl "840+1"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "81"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "human"]

1. e4 {book} e5 {book} 2. Nc3 {book} Nf6 {book} 3. Bc4 {book} Nxe4 {book}
4. Qh5 {book} Nd6 {book} 5. Bb3 {book} Nc6 {book} 6. Nb5 {book} g6 {book}
7. Qf3 {book} f5 {book} 8. Qd5 {book} Qf6 {book} 9. Nxc7+ {book} Kd8 {book}
10. Nxa8 {book} b6 {book} 11. Qf3 {book} Bb7 {book} 12. h4 {book} Bh6
{book} 13. d3 {book} f4 {book} 14. Bd2 {book} Re8 {book} 15. O-O-O {book}
Nd4 {book} 16. Qg4 {book} Bxa8 {book} 17. Nf3 {book} Nxf3 {book} 18. gxf3
{book} Bc6 {-1.28/34 120s}

(18...Nf5 {__ Sf-Lc0 __} 19.Ba4 Qe6 20.Bc3 Nd4 21.Qxe6 Nxe6 22.Rh3 Bg7 23.Bb3 Bc6 24.Bxe6 Rxe6
25.d4 exd4 26.Bxd4 Bf8 27.b3 Ke8 28.a4 Kf7 29.Bc3 Ba3+ 30.Kb1 Bd6 31.Bd4 h6 32.Kb2 Bc7
33.Kc1 a6 34.Bc3 b5 35.a5 Bd6 36.Rd4 Be5 37.Rd3 Bd6 38.Rh1 b4 39.Bd2 g5 40.hxg5 hxg5
41.c3 Bc5 42.cxb4 Bxf2 43.Rh7+ Kg6 44.Rh8 Kf7 45.Rh7+ Kg6 46.Rh8 Kf7 47.Rh2 Ba7 48.Rg2 Kf6
49.Rh2 Kf7 50.b5 Bxb5 51.Rd5 Rc6+ 52.Kd1 Rc5 53.Rd6 Bc6 {1/2-1/2})

19. Kb1 {+1.41/11 23s} Kc7 {-1.08/29 9.5s} 20.
a4 {+1.48/12 22s} Nf5 {-1.15/28 13s} 21. Bc3 {+1.49/14 12s} d5 {-0.91/30
15s} 22. d4 {+1.43/18 20s} exd4 {-0.49/30 9.0s} 23. Bd2 {+0.93/19 32s} Nd6
{-0.35/30 9.1s} 24. Qh3 {+0.88/19 43s} Bg7 {-0.35/31 9.1s} 25. Qg4
{+1.45/19 15s} Bh6 {-0.38/34 26s} 26. Rhe1 {+0.94/17 22s} Rxe1 {-0.42/34
14s} 27. Rxe1 {+0.70/20 14s} Nc4 {-0.33/35 11s} 28. Bxc4 {+0.55/22 36s} Bd7
{0.00/32 10s} 29. Qg1 {+0.47/22 45s} dxc4 {0.00/34 12s} 30. Qf1 {+0.47/19
0.23s} d3 {0.00/37 10s} 31. Bc3 {+0.46/15 0.22s} Qc6 {0.00/34 11s} 32. Re7
{+0.36/20 30s} Qxa4 {0.00/38 16s} 33. cxd3 {+0.34/19 14s} Kc8 {0.00/39 15s}
34. Re5 {+0.33/18 19s} Bf8 {0.00/38 42s} 35. h5 {+0.25/16 88s} Kc7 {0.00/39
19s} 36. Rd5 {+0.23/16 29s} Be6 {0.00/36 9.0s} 37. Re5 {+0.21/18 14s} Bh3
{0.00/39 33s} 38. Qe2 {+0.15/15 25s} cxd3 {0.00/39 15s} 39. Qxd3 {+0.19/19
20s} Bf5 {0.00/39 9.3s} 40. Rxf5 {+0.17/18 12s} gxf5 {0.00/43 20s} 41. Be5+
{+0.16/18 19s, Draw by adjudication} 1/2-1/2

The engines from just the book through move 8, white 1.5 - black 0.5:
In Sf 1-0 Lc0 Lazy Frank played 13...f4, both (2)'s above draws, instead of Lc0's 13...Bxc1.
In Lc0 1/2-1/2 Sf after 16...Bxa8 black has a bishop and pawn vs. rook and its bishop pair is active.
[Event "Franken-Drac"]
[Site "Rybka forum"]
[Date "2019.10.29"]
[Round "3"]
[White "Stockfish_19102601c0"]
[Black "Lc0-v0.22.0_J20-460"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C27"]
[Opening "Vienna"]
[Variation "3.Bc4 Nxe4 4.Qh5 Nd6 5.Bb3 Nc6"]
[TimeControl "840+1"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "98"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "human"]

1. e4 {book} e5 {book} 2. Nc3 {book} Nf6 {book} 3. Bc4 {book} Nxe4 {book}
4. Qh5 {book} Nd6 {book} 5. Bb3 {book} Nc6 {book} 6. Nb5 {book} g6 {book}
7. Qf3 {book} f5 {book} 8. Qd5 {book} Qf6 {book} 9. Nxc7+ {+1.56/28 19s}
Kd8 {-0.89/16 9.0s} 10. Nxa8 {+1.53/28 11s} b6 {-0.63/16 9.0s} 11. Qf3 {+1.54/27 7.8s}

(11.d3 {__ Lc0-Sf __} Bb7 12.Nf3 Nd4 13.Qxd4 exd4 14.Bg5 Qxg5 15.Nxg5 Bxg2 16.Rg1 Bxa8 17.h4 Bg7
18.f4 Bf6 19.Kd2 Kc7 20.Raf1 Bc6 21.a3 a5 22.a4 Ne8 23.h5 gxh5 24.Nf7 Rf8 25.Ne5 Ng7
26.c3 dxc3+ 27.bxc3 Bb7 28.Nf3 Ne8 29.Rg3 h4 30.Rh3 Bxf3 31.Rhxf3 Ng7 32.d4 Nh5
33.Re1 Ng3 34.Kd3 Kc6 35.Rf2 Ne4 36.Rc2 Re8 37.Re3 Re7 38.Rg2 d5 39.Ree2 Re8 40.Ba2 Rd8
41.Rb2 Nd6 42.Rg1 Re8 43.Rgb1 Bd8 44.Rg1 Bf6 45.Bb3 Re4 46.Rf1 Re7 47.Rg1 Ne4
48.Bd1 Kb7 49.Bh5 Rc7 50.Rc2 Ka6 51.Rgg2 Kb7 52.Rh2 Rg7 53.Rcg2 Rg3+ 54.Rxg3 hxg3
55.Rc2 Kc7 56.c4 Kd6 57.cxd5 Nf2+ 58.Ke3 Kxd5 59.Bf7+ Kd6 60.Rc1 Nh3 61.Rc2 Bg5
62.Kf3 Nxf4 63.Kxg3 Ne6 64.Rb2 Nxd4 65.Rxb6+ Ke5 66.Rb8 Ke4 67.Rh8 Nc6 68.Ba2 f4+
69.Kf2 h6 70.Bb1+ Kd4 71.Ra8 Ne5 72.Rxa5 Bh4+ 73.Kg1 f3 74.Ra7 Ng4 75.Rd7+ Kc5
76.Kh1 f2 77.Rf7 Ne3 78.Bd3 Kb4 79.Rf4+ {1/2-1/2} )

Bb7 {-0.87/18 19s} 12. h4 {+1.15/30 32s} Bh6 {-1.02/18 13s}
13. d3 {+1.27/29 8.6s} Bxc1 {-1.17/21 39s} 14. Rxc1 {+1.79/25 11s} Nd4
{-1.16/19 0.23s} 15. Qh3 {+1.39/32 23s} e4 {-1.25/18 10s} 16. Kf1 {+1.31/31
15s} Bxa8 {-1.30/21 55s} 17. Qg3 {+1.82/25 9.3s} h6 {-1.25/16 15s} 18. Qf4
{+2.19/29 21s} Bb7 {-1.35/19 15s} 19. Rh3 {+1.86/31 29s} Ba6 {-1.50/20 24s}
20. Rd1 {+1.89/30 9.0s} Rh7 {-1.60/16 7.2s} 21. c4 {+2.46/29 8.4s} Re7
{-1.36/24 24s} 22. Rg3 {+2.66/31 12s} g5 {-1.36/24 8.3s} 23. hxg5 {+2.58/35
18s} hxg5 {-1.37/28 15s} 24. Qxg5 {+2.66/34 8.5s} Qxg5 {-1.41/24 12s} 25.
Rxg5 {+2.96/32 9.2s} exd3 {-1.46/16 3.6s} 26. Rxd3 {+2.74/34 22s} Nxc4
{-2.50/17 40s} 27. Rg8+ {+2.95/31 13s} Kc7 {-2.56/17 8.4s} 28. Rc3
{+3.06/31 10s} d5 {-2.59/16 13s} 29. Nf3 {+3.05/32 14s} Nxf3 {-2.61/15 14s}
30. gxf3 {+2.95/32 18s} Kd6 {-2.62/14 43s} 31. Kg2 {+2.86/34 14s} Re2
{-2.68/13 74s} 32. Rf8 {+3.04/29 13s} Rxb2 {-2.77/13 7.9s} 33. Rxf5
{+3.05/29 11s} Bb7 {-2.79/13 36s} 34. Rf7 {+3.03/29 12s} Bc6 {-2.83/11 13s}
35. Rxa7 {+3.27/29 11s} b5 {-2.85/11 21s} 36. Rd3 {+3.28/30 11s} Kc5
{-2.79/11 10s} 37. Rh7 {+3.49/29 16s} Ne5 {-3.15/12 35s} 38. Re3 {+4.73/30
11s} Nc4 {-3.17/11 3.4s} 39. Re6 {+4.64/31 15s} Na5 {-3.38/11 15s} 40. Kg3
{+5.15/29 11s} Rb1 {-3.54/11 35s} 41. Rc7 {+5.43/29 8.0s} Rg1+ {-3.53/10
12s} 42. Kh2 {+6.08/30 8.7s} Rf1 {-3.55/11 15s} 43. Kg2 {+7.94/30 7.9s} Rb1
{-3.76/11 23s} 44. f4 {+14.63/30 11s} d4+ {-3.94/12 9.4s} 45. Rcxc6+
{+20.77/31 14s} Nxc6 {-4.52/11 7.6s} 46. f5 {+55.62/33 7.8s} d3 {-5.13/10
22s} 47. f6 {+148.96/42 7.1s} Nd8 {-5.78/10 26s} 48. Re8 {+149.00/48 11s}
Rxb3 {-7.40/9 15s} 49. Rxd8 {+M27/55 6.8s} Rb4 {-8.53/8 13s, White wins by
adjudication} 1-0
Attachment: Franken-Drac.pgn - Games (13k)
Parent - By Lazy Frank (****) Date 2019-10-30 15:56
Hello, mister Boombaard.
Do you know reason why?!
We have different goals of Frankenstein - Dracula gambit.
- By gsgs (***) Date 2019-11-06 11:40 Upvotes 1
I tested lots of openings in asmFish vs. asmFish games on a tablet at 120+1s
over the last years and Frankenstein Dracula was the best wrt. fewest 1-1 pairs in 2 games with reversed color.
4th column from right is the number of 1-1 pairs out of 500 , 205 for dracula
1st column is white-score

dracula=e4,e5,nc3,nf6,bc4,ne4,qh5,nd6,bb3,nc6,nb5,g6,qf3,f5,qd5,qf6,nc7,kd8,na8,b6
dk1g=drawkiller., 500 different
Nxe6-1 = e4,c5,nf3,d6,d4,cd,nd4,nf6,nc3,a6,be3,e6,a3,b5,g4,bb7,bg2,nc6,g5,nd7,f4,h6,nxe6
tcece=TCEC11 superfinal openings
koqs = komodo queen sacrifice (dutch..
tcect49 = tcec10 superfinal, 49th opening
pirc2-1 = e4,d6,d4,nf6,nc3,nd7,f4,e5


588.0,546,566.0,dracula   , 120+1,I02,i-Nov07h,q-Aug14,at, 10,76,190,176,048    , 10,083,205,169,33 , 01
521.7,522,486.7,dk1g      , 120+1,T02,cp-1668,cp-2498 ,gf, 37,104,178,143,39    , 19,139,214,108,21 , 20   2000 games
730.0,460,488.0,Nxe6-1    , 120+1,x03,r-Oct03,rc-sep30,j9, 01,13,125,247,114    , 14,139,215,121,11 , 00
529.5,495,490.5,dk1h      , 120+1,T57,cp-1668,cp-2498 ,ez, 38,110,165,129,58    , 16,134,224,105,21 , 00
571.5,573,492.5,tcece500  , 120+1,T43,cp-1668,cp-2498 ,ed, 22,81,177,172,048    , 10,131,230,122,07 , 04
527.2,522,496.2,dk1g      , 120+1,T40,cp-1668,cp-2498 ,gh, 38,105,176,131,52    , 15,124,233,112,17 , 21    16MB hash  2000 games
587.5,637,525.5,tcect49   , 120+1,T08,i-Nov07,q-may22 ,z9, 05,54,230,183,028    , 14,095,233,142,16 , 19    256MB hash
703.0,516,470.0,dk1-512   , 120+1,T38,cp-1668,cp-2498 ,gh, 00,021,152,227,100   , 09,154,234,094,09 , 00    1024 games  nur 2 verschiedene Eroeffnungen
499.4,645,496.5,koqs-1    , 120+1,T09,i-Nov07,i-Oct03 ,v6, 16,122,226,119,17    , 12,124,235,117,12 , 00
536.2,634,517.2,sa-hc3396 , 120+1,I03,i-Oct03h,p-may22,ap, 10,94,234,136,025    , 20,125,237,106,13 , 24
690.0,526,528.0,pirc2-1   , 120+1,T33,i-Oct03         ,s4, 00,23,168,215,094    , 07,101,238,137,17 , 24
717.0,504,495.0,Nxe6-1    , 120+1,C01,i-Oct03         ,l9, 00,14,147,230,109    , 10,124,239,120,07 , 00
613.5,605,531.5,tcect24   , 120+1,T07,i-Nov07,q-may22 ,ad, 02,62,199,181,056    , 08,092,239,151,10 , 15    256MB hash
...
(85 opening sets in total)

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