Anyone have any idea when SF9 will be released?
Sure...just as TCEC starts.

When does TCEC start?
End of September / beginning of October.
Or after it finishes ?
As always when the new version is >50 ELO compared to the previous version.
Current dev is 'only' +30 yet, so no release soon.
Current dev is 'only' +30 yet, so no release soon.
50+ ELO seems like a stretch...do you think it will make it?
Sure it will, just not sure if it will be at that point when TCEC ends.
> As always when the new version is >50 ELO compared to the previous version.
> Current dev is 'only' +30 yet, so no release soon.
At which time control, match conditions and hardware base as a standard? Is there a standard for measurement to determine when 50 Elo is achieved? I don't know of one.
PeterG
40000 1m + 0.6s games on the Stockfish test framework
http://tests.stockfishchess.org/tests/view/59a1a55a0ebc5916ff64aba4
http://tests.stockfishchess.org/tests/view/59a1a55a0ebc5916ff64aba4
OK, thanks
I just use the latest version anyhow -never really bother with running 8 as a standalone. Sometimes I run across issues with the most recent version posted but for the most part they seem to do the job.
Probably tomorrow, waiting on the final executables to be generated.
Author: mstembera
Date: Wed Jan 31 11:41:09 2018 +0100
Timestamp: 1517395269
Stockfish 9
Official release version of Stockfish 9
Bench 5023629
Date: Wed Jan 31 11:41:09 2018 +0100
Timestamp: 1517395269
Stockfish 9
Official release version of Stockfish 9
Bench 5023629
Attachment: stockfish_18013111_x64_bmi2.exe (1168k)
Attachment: stockfish_18013111_x64_modern.exe (1165k)
That are not the final executables, those will be released tomorrow via https://stockfishchess.org/
(the new exe's will be functionally identical, but faster)
(the new exe's will be functionally identical, but faster)
> the new exe's will be functionally identical, but faster
Fundamentally it is Stockfish 9! mstembera -stated clearly "Official release version of Stockfish 9 "
I would agree that he has perhaps jumped the gun!
I still see SF8 https://stockfishchess.org/
or is it just me? :)
or is it just me? :)
Anyone know of a good, faster compile yet for SF9?
Why do you say that? Posts on Talkchess is indicating it is actually slower than SF9.
The Brainfish compile is the same code as SF9 with the benefit of LP hash. It only becomes Brainfish with the use of the Cerebellum book.
http://zipproth.com/index.html#ui-tabs-1
http://zipproth.com/Brainfish/BrainFish_180201.zip
In single thread mode, it gives exactly the same output as SF9 but significantly quicker dependant upon you hardware and O/S set up.
Stockfish 9 output from start position Q9550 at 3.53 GHz + 1Gb, single thread
1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 d5 3.c4 e6 4.Nc3 Nbd7 5.Bg5 h6 6.Bh4 Bb4 7.e3 c5 8.Be2 g5 9.Bg3 Ne4 10.Rc1 Qa5 11.0-0 Bxc3 12.bxc3 Nxc3 13.Qe1 Nxe2+ 14.Qxe2 0-0 15.cxd5 exd5 16.dxc5
+/= (0.36) Depth: 27/33 00:01:05 66575kN
1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 d5 3.c4 e6 4.Nc3 Nbd7 5.cxd5 exd5 6.Bf4 c6 7.e3 Nh5 8.Be5 Nxe5 9.dxe5 g6 10.Be2 Bg7 11.h3 f5 12.Nd4 Bxe5 13.Bxh5 0-0 14.0-0 gxh5 15.Qxh5
+/= (0.33) Depth: 28/35 00:01:20 80780kN
1.d4
+/= (0.41 ++) Depth: 29/35 00:01:26 87148kN
1.d4 Nf6
= (0.26 --) Depth: 29/38 00:02:14 136MN
1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 e6 3.c4 b6 4.Nc3 Bb4 5.Bg5 h6 6.Bh4 Bb7 7.e3 g5 8.Bg3 Ne4 9.Qc2 f5 10.Bd3 Bxc3+ 11.bxc3 0-0 12.0-0 c5 13.Nd2 Nxg3 14.fxg3 Nc6 15.e4 cxd4 16.exf5 dxc3 17.Qxc3 Qf6 18.Qxf6 Rxf6 19.fxe6
+/= (0.35) Depth: 29/41 00:02:36 157MN
Brainfish "9" (010218) output from start position Q9550 at 3.53 GHz + 1Gb, single thread
1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 d5 3.c4 e6 4.Nc3 Nbd7 5.Bg5 h6 6.Bh4 Bb4 7.e3 c5 8.Be2 g5 9.Bg3 Ne4 10.Rc1 Qa5 11.0-0 Bxc3 12.bxc3 Nxc3 13.Qe1 Nxe2+ 14.Qxe2 0-0 15.cxd5 exd5 16.dxc5
+/= (0.36) Depth: 27/33 00:00:54 66575kN
1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 d5 3.c4 e6 4.Nc3 Nbd7 5.cxd5 exd5 6.Bf4 c6 7.e3 Nh5 8.Be5 Nxe5 9.dxe5 g6 10.Be2 Bg7 11.h3 f5 12.Nd4 Bxe5 13.Bxh5 0-0 14.0-0 gxh5 15.Qxh5
+/= (0.33) Depth: 28/35 00:01:06 80780kN
1.d4
+/= (0.41 ++) Depth: 29/35 00:01:11 87148kN
1.d4 Nf6
= (0.26 --) Depth: 29/38 00:01:51 136MN
1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 e6 3.c4 b6 4.Nc3 Bb4 5.Bg5 h6 6.Bh4 Bb7 7.e3 g5 8.Bg3 Ne4 9.Qc2 f5 10.Bd3 Bxc3+ 11.bxc3 0-0 12.0-0 c5 13.Nd2 Nxg3 14.fxg3 Nc6 15.e4 cxd4 16.exf5 dxc3 17.Qxc3 Qf6 18.Qxf6 Rxf6 19.fxe6
+/= (0.35) Depth: 29/41 00:02:09 157MN
Stockfish takes 20.9% more time to reach the same position than Brainfish.
http://zipproth.com/index.html#ui-tabs-1
http://zipproth.com/Brainfish/BrainFish_180201.zip
In single thread mode, it gives exactly the same output as SF9 but significantly quicker dependant upon you hardware and O/S set up.
Stockfish 9 output from start position Q9550 at 3.53 GHz + 1Gb, single thread
1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 d5 3.c4 e6 4.Nc3 Nbd7 5.Bg5 h6 6.Bh4 Bb4 7.e3 c5 8.Be2 g5 9.Bg3 Ne4 10.Rc1 Qa5 11.0-0 Bxc3 12.bxc3 Nxc3 13.Qe1 Nxe2+ 14.Qxe2 0-0 15.cxd5 exd5 16.dxc5
+/= (0.36) Depth: 27/33 00:01:05 66575kN
1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 d5 3.c4 e6 4.Nc3 Nbd7 5.cxd5 exd5 6.Bf4 c6 7.e3 Nh5 8.Be5 Nxe5 9.dxe5 g6 10.Be2 Bg7 11.h3 f5 12.Nd4 Bxe5 13.Bxh5 0-0 14.0-0 gxh5 15.Qxh5
+/= (0.33) Depth: 28/35 00:01:20 80780kN
1.d4
+/= (0.41 ++) Depth: 29/35 00:01:26 87148kN
1.d4 Nf6
= (0.26 --) Depth: 29/38 00:02:14 136MN
1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 e6 3.c4 b6 4.Nc3 Bb4 5.Bg5 h6 6.Bh4 Bb7 7.e3 g5 8.Bg3 Ne4 9.Qc2 f5 10.Bd3 Bxc3+ 11.bxc3 0-0 12.0-0 c5 13.Nd2 Nxg3 14.fxg3 Nc6 15.e4 cxd4 16.exf5 dxc3 17.Qxc3 Qf6 18.Qxf6 Rxf6 19.fxe6
+/= (0.35) Depth: 29/41 00:02:36 157MN
Brainfish "9" (010218) output from start position Q9550 at 3.53 GHz + 1Gb, single thread
1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 d5 3.c4 e6 4.Nc3 Nbd7 5.Bg5 h6 6.Bh4 Bb4 7.e3 c5 8.Be2 g5 9.Bg3 Ne4 10.Rc1 Qa5 11.0-0 Bxc3 12.bxc3 Nxc3 13.Qe1 Nxe2+ 14.Qxe2 0-0 15.cxd5 exd5 16.dxc5
+/= (0.36) Depth: 27/33 00:00:54 66575kN
1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 d5 3.c4 e6 4.Nc3 Nbd7 5.cxd5 exd5 6.Bf4 c6 7.e3 Nh5 8.Be5 Nxe5 9.dxe5 g6 10.Be2 Bg7 11.h3 f5 12.Nd4 Bxe5 13.Bxh5 0-0 14.0-0 gxh5 15.Qxh5
+/= (0.33) Depth: 28/35 00:01:06 80780kN
1.d4
+/= (0.41 ++) Depth: 29/35 00:01:11 87148kN
1.d4 Nf6
= (0.26 --) Depth: 29/38 00:01:51 136MN
1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 e6 3.c4 b6 4.Nc3 Bb4 5.Bg5 h6 6.Bh4 Bb7 7.e3 g5 8.Bg3 Ne4 9.Qc2 f5 10.Bd3 Bxc3+ 11.bxc3 0-0 12.0-0 c5 13.Nd2 Nxg3 14.fxg3 Nc6 15.e4 cxd4 16.exf5 dxc3 17.Qxc3 Qf6 18.Qxf6 Rxf6 19.fxe6
+/= (0.35) Depth: 29/41 00:02:09 157MN
Stockfish takes 20.9% more time to reach the same position than Brainfish.
Peter thanks - I completely forgot their might be a Brainfish compile!
Large Pages will do that, yes. Folks should note that using LP will put that much more stress to their CPUs (the same as additional overclock) i.e. higher temps.
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